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R0H1T

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Isn't Intel working on a complete revamp of X86 for post tiger lake chips? I read some new stories about it dated from last year. Supposedly leaner, faster and all that kind of stuff.
So Atom 3.0 gen1 :D
 

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CFL-S should be the best gaming CPU of this year, IMHO. Sky-X is awesome and I'm getting it, but CFL-S should be the best balance of threads/platform features/per-core perf.
I think it could be a beast of a gaming CPU. Mainstream prices (hopefully), 6 high frequency cores, and probably some pretty good overclocking potential. Delicious.
 

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No worries. I don't believe the post-Tiger CPU codename has been leaked publicly yet.

CFL-S should be the best gaming CPU of this year, IMHO. Sky-X is awesome and I'm getting it, but CFL-S should be the best balance of threads/platform features/per-core perf.
I think it could be a beast of a gaming CPU. Mainstream prices (hopefully), 6 high frequency cores, and probably some pretty good overclocking potential. Delicious.
...Well...?

TTL said: Im debating weather or not I drop a bomb about CL
 
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jpiniero

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I don't know what it could be other than CFL doesn't support 200 series chipsets; which we know.
 

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I suppose Intel could make an i7 6C6T with 9 MB L3; and then refresh it in January with the 6C12T and 12 MB L3.
 
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Welcome to my personal hell...



A bad one; it was his reply to my saying his review sealed the deal on not get getting SKL-X but CFL-S instead for my gaming rig - he said to hold off on that. My worry would be no HT on it...?
I read the post and I think it was really ambiguous or he may not have read fully. He may have meant "bomb" in a good way and was encouraging you to hold off on SKX 7800X.

I mean after all, you can't hold off on buying a CFL-S now because it's obviously not here yet! :)

I think CFL-S will be quite good, but I'm keeping tabs on that thread -- quite curious to see what he has to say if he comes out with it!
 
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TheF34RChannel

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I read the post and I think it was really ambiguous or he may not have read fully. He may have meant "bomb" in a good way and was encouraging you to hold off on SKX 7800X.

I mean after all, you can't hold off on buying a CFL-S now because it's obviously not here yet! :)

I think CFL-S will be quite good, but I'm keeping tabs on that thread -- quite curious to see what he has to say if he comes out with it!
Possibly! Hope you're right and if he answers I'll let us know here.
 
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TheF34RChannel

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I read the post and I think it was really ambiguous or he may not have read fully. He may have meant "bomb" in a good way and was encouraging you to hold off on SKX 7800X.

I mean after all, you can't hold off on buying a CFL-S now because it's obviously not here yet! :)

I think CFL-S will be quite good, but I'm keeping tabs on that thread -- quite curious to see what he has to say if he comes out with it!
I was hoping for an answer today but I haven't got one yet. Until then I am clinging to your theory because it makes more sense (and suits me better; I need to believe in something lol).

Ha...I usually never get excited about CPUs, only GPUs... I think an ice cold beer will sort me out!
 
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2blzd

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Arachnotronic, whats good man, been awhile..I forgot..How you do know so much about future Intel stuff?

Also, some of these names are new to me...I guess I'm falling off my game..When I'm not in the market to upgrade, I do less reading. Is this all out there? where can I read about it?

Lets see if I got this right, from memory..

Cannonlake is the Die-Shrink of Skylake (finally)

Icelake is new arch following Cannonlake (formally a tock)

Tiger is a shrink to Icelake (formally a tick)


And Cascade Lake seems to basically be Kabylake for servers (as in it's an optimized core of Skylake in PAO), yea?
 

witeken

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Arachnotronic, whats good man, been awhile..I forgot..How you do know so much about future Intel stuff?

Also, some of these names are new to me...I guess I'm falling off my game..When I'm not in the market to upgrade, I do less reading. Is this all out there? where can I read about it?

Lets see if I got this right, from memory..

Cannonlake is the Die-Shrink of Skylake (finally)

Icelake is new arch following Cannonlake (formally a tock)

Tiger is a shrink to Icelake (formally a tick)


And Cascade Lake seems to basically be Kabylake for servers (as in it's an optimized core of Skylake in PAO), yea?
Tigerlake is the 3rd gen 10nm client product, probably built on 10nm+.
 

jpiniero

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Arachnotronic, whats good man, been awhile..I forgot..How you do know so much about future Intel stuff?

Also, some of these names are new to me...I guess I'm falling off my game..When I'm not in the market to upgrade, I do less reading. Is this all out there? where can I read about it?

Lets see if I got this right, from memory..

Cannonlake is the Die-Shrink of Skylake (finally)

Icelake is new arch following Cannonlake (formally a tock)

Tiger is a shrink to Icelake (formally a tick)


And Cascade Lake seems to basically be Kabylake for servers (as in it's an optimized core of Skylake in PAO), yea?
Cascade Lake = Skylake-SP/X on 14++
Cannonlake = Skylake shrink to 10 nm, mobile U/Y only. So nothing CPU wise, but it does have some new features on the GPU.
Icelake = new uarch on 10+ (although don't expect much CPU-wise)
Tigerlake = Icelake on 10++, Server first
 
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Ajay

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Cascade Lake = Skylake-SP/X on 14++
Cannonlake = Skylake shrink to 10 nm, mobile U/Y only. So nothing CPU wise, but it does have some new features on the GPU.
Icelake = new uarch on 10+ (although don't expect much CPU-wise)
Tigerlake = Icelake on 10++, Server first
That what I thought. Everything seems to be a bit bananas since 10nm kind of cratered.
 
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I think technically Coffee Lake is a die shrink of Kaby Lake. There are not a lot of differences from SL to KL, but there are differences.

EDIT: Coffee not Cannon...but that makes no sense. I need a nap.

Remember that Intel already demoed a 10nm Cannon Lake CPU early this year, and that Intel's 10nm is more like everyone else's 7nm.

I think Intel might surprise us.
 
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Ajay

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I think technically Cannon Lake is a die shrink of Kaby Lake. There are not a lot of differences from SL to KL, but there are differences.

Remember that Intel already demoed a 10nm Cannon Lake CPU early this year, and that Intel's 10nm is more like everyone else's 7nm.

I think Intel might surprise us.
Well, that would be the biggest effort at sandbagging of all time for Intel if true. So much noise about poor yields out there that I highly doubt we'll see CNL-S.
 

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