? The benchmarks are incomplete. Unless you run SuperPi for a living, I don't see any major conclusions here.
And the only game that is complete shows a virtual tie...
1600x1200, 4xAA 16xAF, Everything Maximum
Opteron 165 @ 3GHz: 134.15fps
Conroe @ 3GHz: 138.41fps
The only thing else left that is complete would be:
MPG to XViD using VirtualDub
5min Video of COD2 recorded with FRAPS
Opteron 165 @ 3GHz: 13min 40sec
Conroe @ 3GHz: 10min 1sec
Conroe @ Max Clocks:
Conroe definitely wins, but the "review" is far from complete.
How did you get SLI working on the "Bad Axe" mobo?Originally posted by: compgeek89
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=185555
very precise comparison
Also, I'm eager to see your complete benchmarks. Take your time though
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The review is NOT complete, Im waiting for a NEW set of intel SLI modified drivers..i was supposed to have the yesterday, im as impatient as you are, and apologize for the delay.
Dothan was a pretty good (and competitive) 90nm part..
Also at high resolution/AA/AF for games how much impact on fps does memory bandwidth have? Is there a reason to this? Isn't this just a video card bottleneck working here so are you saying that if we remove that bottleneck (say by putting a hypothetical super fast video card like a G80 or R600 next gen part) at high res/AA/AF an AM2 FX-62 at 3.0Ghz would soundly beat a Conroe at 3.0Ghz (or equivalent clock)?
Noticing that the gaming scores are near-identical. That's all I care about.
Looks to me like I'll be sticking with AMD...probably dump my current CPU pre-65nm release, then live without a computer for a week or two. Higher clocks, cheaper cost and so on.
--Trevor
Looks to me like I'll be sticking with AMD...probably dump my current CPU pre-65nm release, then live without a computer for a week or two. Higher clocks, cheaper cost and so on.
--Trevor
whats takin u so long to do the game tests, nothing has been added for like 2 days it seems. iam contanstly checkin tha thread and i dont want smalltalk, i want numbers.
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I am DESPERATELY trying to get ahold of the drivers necessary
If anyone has a connection to more recent drivers for SLI on Intel please contact me privately.
If anyone has a connection to more recent drivers for SLI on Intel please contact me privately.
Yea I think you need new drivers, because if that one game score is indicative of the others, conroe ain't much of gain at all. And thats not even am2 at that, which is a little faster. So yea get those new drivers
, lol.Th encoding and rendering Conroe scores are incredible though.
I don't give a flying monkey testicle about the game tests. We know that in gaming the only siginificant limiting factor is the graphics card for 99% of people.
What i want to see is the rest of the transcoding results. (Even then it's hard to make the test fair, optimum would be using the same HD as a second drive in the different machines with a reformat between tests, an utter bitch.) Otherwise you run into trouble with defrag, physical location etc.
Thanks, awaiting the next installation
What i want to see is the rest of the transcoding results. (Even then it's hard to make the test fair, optimum would be using the same HD as a second drive in the different machines with a reformat between tests, an utter bitch.) Otherwise you run into trouble with defrag, physical location etc.
Thanks, awaiting the next installation
Originally posted by: Bobthelost
I don't give a flying monkey testicle about the game tests. We know that in gaming the only siginificant limiting factor is the graphics card for 99% of people.
What i want to see is the rest of the transcoding results. (Even then it's hard to make the test fair, optimum would be using the same HD as a second drive in the different machines with a reformat between tests, an utter bitch.) Otherwise you run into trouble with defrag, physical location etc.
Thanks, awaiting the next installation
Bahhahhahh.
You should see them fly during mating season.Duvie, I had thought you had grown up...from what I saw, AMD is taking a BEATDOWN in every aspect so far...Hard to see the truth when the facts are so blatantly obvious, i agree, you should leave and not return!
I don't see this as a good point. Unless you believe the shipping conroe will be substantially different than the one the OP is testing, or that Conroe won't ship within the expected time frame, why does it matter if ships next month? That's not really huge amount of time and the number arent' likely to change much. It's basically a preview.
With the point your trying to push, would it only be fair if the people who had conroe chips do nothing but sit but twiddle their thumbs or just site on their benchmarks until July 23rd or whatever the date is that conroe systems ship?
Sha-zam duvie?
I dont think your fanboism is gonna save you this time, finally they released a better chip...
what??? i thought intel was better, but someone here suggest AM2 can do better b/c of high bandwidth
and why am i a fanboy??
if u actually read couple thread b4 i do own a AMD rig .... and if core 2 duo is better(which seems like the case), i might sell it on ebay and get a conroe rig ....
i dont care who makes it as long as they are the best
I thnik DarkKnight was refering to Duvie when he was talking about fanboyism.
There is also nothing to suggest that AM2 high bandwidth will save it against Conroe at high resolutions were the limit is the graphics card and not the CPU.
When your GPU limited Conroe and Windsor will perform the same.
yea, it was directed at duvie...he always comes back with either
synthetic means sh1t
or
well, amd has this that is better...
He has nothing now...unless amd is gonna surprise the ****** out of us...but i dont see it happenin...
I have been saying it for a while, Intel has something in their P-M, now we see how they build on it!
synthetic means sh1t
or
well, amd has this that is better...
He has nothing now...unless amd is gonna surprise the ****** out of us...but i dont see it happenin...
I have been saying it for a while, Intel has something in their P-M, now we see how they build on it!
QFBS on the neverending cachebound superpi myth. HAHAHA. Maybe you can tell me how the conroe-is-only-good-with-4MB-dataset theory explains why woodcrest kicks ass in plenty of server loads.
On the side, the woodcrest is able to cut wallclock by over 60% compared to a 3.8ghz P4 on the sv sims I've been running, and those use over 12GB of memory. Too bad I can't compare with an opteron, but I'm pretty sure woodcrest will wallop the opteron easily on this integer load.
oh ok, cool
hout bout something like shaikira ... w/e, i forgot how to spell his name
the guy who use his blog and show how AMD is superior ... lol
thats what i thought, intel is making come back with core, and the OC ability is just insane lets not talk about in stock speed its faster than FX 62 (at least E6600 or above) in gaming/video encoding (the 2 things i care)
coolaler in XS was able to squeez 3.9Ghz out of E6700 on tower120 heatsink(which stcok speed is 2.66GHz) .... not that i think most people can do it, b/c u will need a good mobo like DFI and also DDR2 1000 since FSB is sky high
They matter if you're goign to be using the box to do FP operations like that... eigen-problems and the like. (Which I am/do).
But yes in general, I agree with you.
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