Intel Comet Lake Thread

ondma · Jul 13, 2020

AdamK47 said:
I like it. Bought it for its superior gaming performance. That's the primary purpose of my home PC.

Nice to see someone not saying gaming is a niche scenario, as is so common in this thread.

Markfw · Jul 13, 2020

ondma said:
Nice to see someone not saying gaming is a niche scenario, as is so common in this thread.

I have not seen anyone say gaming is a niche scenario. But gaming at the top 0.1% of FPS for a huge cost is what I have seen as being called niche. But if you can afford it, why not ? Who else here has 5 EPYC systems ? Nobody that I have seen. But I do, because I can afford it.

coercitiv · Jul 13, 2020

ondma said:
Nice to see someone not saying gaming is a niche scenario, as is so common in this thread.

You're talking to someone who bought Kaby Lake X for fun. AdamK47 is the definition of the niche enthusiast.

That being said, I don't remember anyone in this thread saying gaming is a niche scenario either. It may seem that way if you deliberately ignore the gaming performance of the i5 and i7 SKUs.

JoeRambo · Jul 13, 2020

Magic Carpet said:
The L3 does benefit some apps that's very true. What about the WinRAR internal benchmark? Thanks.

Not sure what the score was on 8700K, i will have to check when i get the chance to run it. Might also depend on Winrar version, this was run on latest 5.91 i believe

mopardude87 · Jul 13, 2020

AdamK47 said:
I like it. Bought it for its superior gaming performance. That's the primary purpose of my home PC.

I admire this for sure. I always enjoyed your all out approach on hardware for gaming.

Yeah i REALLY need Cyberpunk2077 and the new AC to inspire me to upgrade and enjoy my hobby again, i picked the 3900x mainly cause it does nothing but fold but also cause i lost about all joy in gaming. BF usually gets me interested enough to upgrade and build a pc for but wow its been bad since BF1. Luckily i got time to save up, wait for the games and reviews. Wait then for a patch or few, while if lucky maybe the latest hardware will be out.

Gonna hope end of year 2020 is as exciting for pc gaming as last year was for AMD in hardware. If its not as exciting as this image in a sense, then i may be out of this pc gaming hobby for good. I haven't been this bored since 2010. I sold a i7 940+ gtx295 gaming rig in 2010, before i got back into it with BC2 in 2011 with a i5 2500k which is still sitting in my htpc 9 years later.

Magic Carpet · Jul 13, 2020

JoeRambo said:
Not sure what the score was on 8700K, i will have to check when i get the chance to run it. Might also depend on Winrar version, this was run on latest 5.91 i believe

Please do. The comet result looks very interesting though, way lower than I've seen it elsewhere. Is it 10900k PL1?

JoeRambo · Jul 13, 2020

Magic Carpet said:
Please do. The comet result looks very interesting though, way lower than I've seen it elsewhere. Is it 10900k PL1?

My fault, i forgot i was testing HT off

will retest once back home.

JoeRambo · Jul 13, 2020

Yeah, with HT it is different story

That is 5.1 all core OC and 3866C15 with tweaked and handtuned timings.

jpiniero · Jul 18, 2020

The 10850K, btw, I suspect is just chips binned as 10900 but rebranded to include unlocking. OEM desktop sales have been completely destroyed by the virus. I doubt there are actually that many 10900 OEM desktops out there but enough to get them to unload the chips on DIY, and they get more $$$ than just cutting to 10700K.

DrMrLordX · Jul 18, 2020

jpiniero said:
The 10850K, btw, I suspect is just chips binned as 10900 but rebranded to include unlocking. OEM desktop sales have been completely destroyed by the virus. I doubt there are actually that many 10900 OEM desktops out there but enough to get them to unload the chips on DIY, and they get more $$$ than just cutting to 10700K.

Is it the same die as the 10900k?

AdamK47 · Jul 20, 2020

jpiniero said:
The 10850K, btw, I suspect is just chips binned as 10900 but rebranded to include unlocking. OEM desktop sales have been completely destroyed by the virus. I doubt there are actually that many 10900 OEM desktops out there but enough to get them to unload the chips on DIY, and they get more $$$ than just cutting to 10700K.

PC Sales Surge During Coronavirus Crisis - And HP’s The Big Winner

The PC market has been one of the big beneficiaries of the Coronavirus crisis, with HP seeing a huge sales boost.

www.forbes.com

Zucker2k · Jul 20, 2020

AdamK47 said:
PC Sales Surge During Coronavirus Crisis - And HP’s The Big Winner

The PC market has been one of the big beneficiaries of the Coronavirus crisis, with HP seeing a huge sales boost.

www.forbes.com

Ditto.

jpiniero · Jul 20, 2020

AdamK47 said:
PC Sales Surge During Coronavirus Crisis - And HP’s The Big Winner

The PC market has been one of the big beneficiaries of the Coronavirus crisis, with HP seeing a huge sales boost.

www.forbes.com

By PCs they mean laptops, which yes sales are up double digits. HP btw is the most pro-AMD OEM.

phillyman36 · Jul 21, 2020

Anyone here build a Comet Lake rig using a Maximus Hero XII? I guess in general what memory did you use?
Memory Speed
Number of stick and amount(ie 4 stick of 8Gb etc etc)
Vendor

repoman27 · Jul 21, 2020

DrMrLordX said:
Is it the same die as the 10900k?

According to Geekbench, yes. They're both Family 6, Model 165, Stepping 5, which would be the Q0 stepping.

I read this rather differently than jpiniero. PC sales are actually up almost across the board, and Intel was already capacity constrained going into this mess. They had to be aggressive with binning the 10900K to ensure that their halo SKU could benchmark against AMD's offerings. However, they aren't yielding enough of them to supply OEMs or be able to cut prices in order to respond to the competition. So they slotted in another unlocked 10-core that they can have a little more flexibility with.

Incidentally, CML-U V2 with LPDDR4X support finally showed up on Geekbench last week as well: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2990837

And I might as well throw in an updated version of my table of Intel "lake" dies:

Platform	Die	Cores	IGP	Process	HW Stepping	Model #	Stepping #	Launch Date
SKL-H/S 4+2	4+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9	14	R0	94	3	Aug '15
SKL-U/Y 2+2	2+2 LP	Skylake	Gen9	14	D1	78	3	Sep '15
SKL-U 2+3e	2+3 LP	Skylake	Gen9	14	K1	78	3	Sep '15
SKL-S 2+2	2+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9	14	S0	94	3	Sep '15
SKL-H 4+4e	4+4 HP	Skylake	Gen9	14	N0	94	3	Jan '16
KBL-U/Y 2+2, AML-Y 2+2	2+2 LP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14+	H0	142	9	Aug '16
KBL-U 2+3e	2+3 LP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14+	J1	142	9	Jan '17
KBL-S 2+2	2+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14+?	S0*	158	9	Jan '17
KBL-H/S/G/X 4+2	4+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14+	B0	158	9	Jan '17
KBL-U R 4+2	4+2 LP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14+	Y0	142	10	Aug '17
CFL-H/S 6+2, CFL-H/S R 6+2	6+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	U0	158	10	Oct '17
CFL-S 4+2, CFL-S R 4+2	4+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++?	B0*	158	11	Oct '17
CFL-U 4+3e	4+3 LP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	D0	142	10	Apr '18
CNL-U 2+0	4+2 LP	Palm Cove	Gen10	10	?	102	3	May '18
WHL-U 4+2	4+2 LP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	W0	142	11	Aug '18
CFL-S R 8+2	8+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	P0	158	12	Oct '18
WHL-U 4+2, AML/CML-Y 4+2, CML-U 4+2 V1	4+2 LP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	V0	142	12	Apr '19
CFL-H/S R 8+2	8+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	R0	158	13	Apr '19
ICL-Y 4+2	4+2 LP	Sunny Cove	Gen11	10+	?	126	4	Aug '19
ICL-U/UN/Y/YN 4+2	4+2 LP	Sunny Cove	Gen11	10+	D1	126	5	Aug '19
CML-U 6+2 V1	6+2 LP V1	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	A0	166	0	Aug '19
CML-H 8+2	8+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	R1	165	2	Apr '20
CML-S 6+2	6+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	G1	165	3	Apr '20
CML-S 10+2	10+2 HP	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	Q0	165	5	Apr '20
CML-U 6+2 V2	6+2 LP V2	Skylake	Gen9.5	14++	K1	166	1	May '20
LKF 1+4+2	1+4+2	Sunny Cove + Tremont	Gen11	10+	B3	138	1	Jun '20
TGL-UP3/UP4 4+2	4+2 LP	Willow Cove	Gen12 LP	10++				Aug '20?
RKL-UP3 6+1	6+1 LP	Sunny Cove?	Gen12 LP	14++				Aug '20?
RKL-S 8+1	8+1 HP	Sunny Cove?	Gen12 LP	14++				H1 '21?
TGL-H 8+1	8+1 HP	Willow Cove	Gen12 LP	10++				H1 '21?

Platform Chipset	Die	PCH	Chipset Name	Process	HW Stepping	Launch Date
SKL PCH-H	SPT-H	Sunrise Point	100 Series	22	D1	Aug '15
SKL PCH-LP	SPT-LP	Sunrise Point	6/7/8/10th Gen	22	C1	Sep '15
KBL PCH-H	KBP-H	Kaby Point	200 Series	22	A0	Jan '17
CNL PCH-LP	CNP-LP	Cannon Point	300 Series	14	D0	Apr '18
CNL PCH-H	CNP-H	Cannon Point	300 Series	14	B0	Apr '18
ICL PCH-LP	ICP-LP	Ice Point	495 Series	14	D0*	Aug '19
CML PCH-LP	CMP-LP	Comet Point	400 Series	14	A0	Aug '19
ICL PCH-N	ICP-N	Ice Point	495 Series	14	?	Mar '20
CML PCH-H	CMP-H	Comet Point	400 Series	14	A0*	Apr '20
CML PCH-V	CMP-V	Comet Point	400 Series	22	A0*	Apr '20
TGL PCH-LP	TGP-LP	Tiger Point	500 Series	14		Aug '20?
TGL PCH-H	TGP-H	Tiger Point	500 Series	14		H1 '21?

jpiniero · Aug 14, 2020

Haha, the Avengers themed Comet Lake rumor was true.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1294372084085334019

DrMrLordX · Aug 15, 2020

jpiniero said:
Haha, the Avengers themed Comet Lake rumor was true.

Wow way to be cutting-edge Intel.

ondma · Aug 15, 2020

DrMrLordX said:
Wow way to be cutting-edge Intel.

Yea, almost as compelling as "Ruby" from AMD a few years ago.

Markfw · Aug 15, 2020

ondma said:
Yea, almost as compelling as "Ruby" from AMD a few years ago.

Ruby ? I don't remember that. Got any links ?

jpiniero · Aug 15, 2020

ondma said:
Yea, almost as compelling as "Ruby" from AMD a few years ago.

A little bit more than just a few...

Markfw said:
Ruby ? I don't remember that. Got any links ?

Google "amd ruby"

Markfw · Aug 15, 2020

jpiniero said:
A little bit more than just a few...

Google "amd ruby"

Why bring up something 16 years old ???? half the posters here were in diapers then.....

DrMrLordX · Aug 16, 2020

ondma said:
Yea, almost as compelling as "Ruby" from AMD a few years ago.

That's not saying much. So hey thanks for agreeing with me!

AdamK47 · Aug 16, 2020

Ruby was an ATI thing, not AMD. The demos still run on my system.

viivo · Aug 17, 2020

Went from a 3900x to a 10700 for the gaming increase. The improvement in the game I play most is staggering.

Markfw · Aug 17, 2020

viivo said:
Went from a 3900x to a 10700 for the gaming increase. The improvement in the game I play most is staggering.

Well, thats odd, as the biggest lead I have seen in ANY game is like 10%. Why don't you tell us what game .

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