Just stick a couple 350cfm 38mm Delta screamers on it. Foam earplugs are cheap enough.My D15 can barely keep up with my 9900k... there's no way this thing can be air cooled without massive throttling... ooofffff...
Just stick a couple 350cfm 38mm Delta screamers on it. Foam earplugs are cheap enough.My D15 can barely keep up with my 9900k... there's no way this thing can be air cooled without massive throttling... ooofffff...
Time for me to eat some crow, I never believed they would end up doing this crap.
These are not 125W TDP CPUs, and from now on Intel's TDP numbers are just marketing names. What a sad legacy for a CPU architecture that was once the best at everything.
It's only 17 months since Anandtech felt it's necessary to explain Intel's TDP and Turbo. It's only 9 months since they had an interview with Intel's "Chief Architect of Client Performance Segmentation". Logic and reason clearly flew out of the window while some didn't (want to) look.Maybe it is just me but that was quite naive from you.
To me writing was on the wall with 8 and especially 9 series.
And I have to agree with you, skylake is way past its time.
What has AMD done in that time span? Maxing out their chips? Intel doesn't have a lot of options, but push their chips as well. It's all about "boost." Nowadays, the mobo manufacturers also have a say how long those boosts can last. Well, competition.
The $800 Gigabyte Z490 AORUS XTREME is rated for 1440 AMPS!!! I can't stop laughing. [That would be 1.7KW at a Vcore of 1.2v].But the review is out:
And yep, the PL2 is 250W, but mobo builders built for 320-350W!
In comparison:
32 core Threadripper 3970X never exceeds 280W without overclocking
64 core Threadripper 3990X never exceeds 280W without overclocking
16 core Ryzen 3950X never exceeds 145W without overclocking
8 core Ryzen 3770X never exceeds 88W without overclocking
10600Kf with a little OC is probably hard to beat for gaming value, 10400F looks very interesting also..
and the 10700Kf, will be interesting to see against the 3700x.
i3 finally with 4c/8t is also pretty good tbh.
At least the price is a little better. If the 9900K was priced the same, I probably would have bought it over my 3900X (which, honestly, is a bit of overkill for my current needs).10700F should be exactl what the 9900K is.
It's 125W CPU at base clocks, which is how TDP is calculated.At some point you just start straight lying about your TDP. Like, I get how CPUs can exceed TDP, but this is just absurd. This is not a 125w CPU. It's a 250w CPU (that apparently can hit 300w according to the mobo manufacturers!)
At least Ryzen 3000 CPUs stick to the PPT limit, which is typically TDP + 30%. The cores themselves usually stay within the TDP limit and the total package power including uncore will be within the PPT limit. AMD could probably squeeze a few more MHz too if they let a 3800X scream away at 1.5v, 300w all-core boost.
The $800 Gigabyte Z490 AORUS XTREME is rated for 1440 AMPS!!! I can't stop laughing. [That would be 1.7KW at a Vcore of 1.2v].
I understand how TDP is calculated. However in this case, nothing appears to be limiting the power during boost. The motherboard manufacturers all seem to be on board ready to cram 300w+ into the CPU during max boost. It basically just seems that as long as the CPU stays cool enough, it will plow as much power as the board will feed it.It's 125W CPU at base clocks, which is how TDP is calculated.
BTW, I don't expect it to draw 250W at stock outside torture tests really, power consumption will probably be around 200W while boosting on all cores. (Just like the 9900K very rarely gets above 150W).
Intel's TDP has always been rated at base clocks, nothing shady there.
But the cpu doesn't run at base clocks, that's where the shady relies.It's 125W CPU at base clocks, which is how TDP is calculated.
And unfortunately it seam it will end up remembered as one of the worst ever.These are not 125W TDP CPUs, and from now on Intel's TDP numbers are just marketing names. What a sad legacy for a CPU architecture that was once the best at everything.
No, they couldn't. Zen 2 is maxed out.AMD could probably squeeze a few more MHz too if they let a 3800X scream away at 1.5v, 300w all-core boost.
Zen 2 is maxed at its current PPT, and the single core boost is maxed out period. But give them a ton more power, and all-core boost goes up. A good 3800X will do ~4.5GHz all-core at about 250WNo, they couldn't. Zen 2 is maxed out.
What has AMD done in that time span?
AMD needs to react with price cuts or to launch ZEN 3 soon.
At some point you just start straight lying about your TDP.
It's 125W CPU at base clocks, which is how TDP is calculated.
No, they couldn't. Zen 2 is maxed out.
That's why such products should be forbidden to be released.Hard pass from me. Moving to a warmer climate so want as much efficiency as possible.
Fact check: The 10900K brings 25% more in performance in core count alone, not counting TVB, and All-Core clocks, and no price increase. There are people who prefer Intel over AMD, and for those people the 25%+ performance will be well worth their investment.They are gaining in performance year by year while Intel is not, at least not in their halo desktop CPUs.
Fact check: The 10900K brings 25% more in performance in core count alone
not counting TVB, and All-Core clocks