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Markfw

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Nothing is bothering me per say. Just want a second pc to use. I would use 1 pc for gaming while the other pc is encoding video(nothing professional just my movie collection). I want 1 AMD pc and 1 Intel pc.
So your 8700k will be your gaming, and your 3900x will be your encoding ?
 
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Markfw

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Need to change my signature forgot about it. i don't have the 8700k anymore.
OK, really confused now. What do you have now, and what will you be buying, and what is each going to be used for ?
 
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OK, really confused now. What do you have now, and what will you be buying, and what is each going to be used for ?
Changed my signature. Just have 1 pc right now (3900x) 1 pc will be used for video encoding. The other for gaming and general use. Right now when encoding or burning is done I have to minimize gaming window and set the next one up. I want 2 pcs so i don't have to do that.
 

Markfw

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Changed my signature. Just have 1 pc right now (3900x) 1 pc will be used for video encoding. The other for gaming and general use. Right now when encoding or burning is done I have to minimize gaming window and set the next one up. I want 2 pcs so i don't have to do that.
OK, so you want to use the Intel for gaming. Makes sense, they are like a couple percent faster (FPS) than your 3900x. But you can switch and see for yourself !
 
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Nothing is bothering me per say. Just want a second pc to use. I would use 1 pc for gaming while the other pc is encoding video(nothing professional just my movie collection). I want 1 AMD pc and 1 Intel pc.
So as I thought - and hoped :) I'd surely wait for Comet Lake, not just because it'll be 10 cores (and probably come close to the 3900X in much more cases than it does now, albeit using much more power too), but mainly because of the platform. If you don't have to get your intel PC right now, then it's not too wise to buy a Z390 system anymore.
 

DrMrLordX

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Not sure about the CPUs yet, but it will be a better platform (better featured mobos).
Supposedly, the 10900K will have a max boost of 5.3 GHz, which is currently better than the 9900K (not really looking at the KS since it's so hard to get those anyway). Prices may also come down if Intel's HEDT lineup is any indicator of the future of Intel's product prices.
 

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10980HK spotted. 3.1 Ghz base is a nice increase although I bet it means a return to having 57 W TDP mobile processors.
If this is supposed to boost to 5GHz+ then it sure doesn't look like it. But then all the current 6 and 8 core H series processors have trouble with temperatures, there are posts on r/Intel everyday telling how hot these things get.
 

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10980HK spotted. 3.1 Ghz base is a nice increase although I bet it means a return to having 57 W TDP mobile processors.
So we'll start seeing benchmarks again between $6000 and $2000 laptops, where the intel laptop can never sustain it's base clock for more than a benchmark run (in the 45W envelope, I mean) but it will get a higher score, and people will claim how intel's 14nm is more power efficient than TMSC's 7nm. Once more we'll have pages long discussions over some people's inability to align a few numbers to get a clear picture. Good times!
 

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H510 board for Rocket Lake spotted. VC suggests that this could mean that Intel is thinking about pulling in Rocket Lake to this year, presumably around when Zen 3 comes out.
 

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VC suggests that this could mean that Intel is thinking about pulling in Rocket Lake to this year, presumably around when Zen 3 comes out.
It's possible, but I'm skeptical given Intel have also pushed Comet Lake all the way out to April, presumably because of the 14nm shortages.
 

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H510 board for Rocket Lake spotted. VC suggests that this could mean that Intel is thinking about pulling in Rocket Lake to this year, presumably around when Zen 3 comes out.
Rocket Lake will do anywhere between zero and absolutely nothing against Zen 3. Expect more real world benchmarks, such as Excel and PowerPoint.
 

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Rocket Lake will do anywhere between zero and absolutely nothing against Zen 3. Expect more real world benchmarks, such as Excel and PowerPoint.
The reason they would do it would be to maintain gaming superiority.

It's possible, but I'm skeptical given Intel have also pushed Comet Lake all the way out to April, presumably because of the 14nm shortages.
It'd have to be something like just K(F?) parts and a low end i5 F part only. Even then, yes the shortage makes it tough to pull in. Marketing might not care.
 

lobz

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The reason they would do it would be to maintain gaming superiority.



It'd have to be something like just K(F?) parts and a low end i5 F part only. Even then, yes the shortage makes it tough to pull in. Marketing might not care.
Can't wait to see what an unified L3 (for Zen 3 if it's true) does in gaming :)
 

DrMrLordX

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Rocket Lake will do anywhere between zero and absolutely nothing against Zen 3. Expect more real world benchmarks, such as Excel and PowerPoint.
Zen3 will also be at least 6 months old by the time Rocket Lake-S hits the market.
 

lobz

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Zen3 will also be at least 6 months old by the time Rocket Lake-S hits the market.
That was merely to the proposition that intel would (be able to) pull Rocket Lake forward and release it before holidays - but yes, probably what you said.
 

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Supposedly, the 10900K will have a max boost of 5.3 GHz, which is currently better than the 9900K (not really looking at the KS since it's so hard to get those anyway). Prices may also come down if Intel's HEDT lineup is any indicator of the future of Intel's product prices.
5.3 GHz is only in theory it depends on Intel software (must be installed for it) and it is similar style like Ryzen max boost. Real (practice) boost will be 5.1 GHz for 1-2 cores load.
 
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DrMrLordX

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5.3 GHz is only in theory it depends on Intel software (must be installed for it) and it is similar style like Ryzen max boost. Real (practice) boost will be 5.1 GHz for 1-2 cores load.
If you use 250W+ PL2 mode, you can probably get more cores than 2 boosted that high, I would think.
 

uzzi38

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If you use 250W+ PL2 mode, you can probably get more cores than 2 boosted that high, I would think.
So, the 5.3 GHz boost (and 4.9GHz all-core boost) is only under something called Turbo Velocity Boost.

This can only kick in when the CPU is below 70 degrees (50 degrees for mobile). It's not related to PL2 or anything, but instead, purely based on temperatures.

Now, while this is possible for ST workloads (but dear god that thermal density will not be kind, we're talking like 30W+ - probably more - for that single core), imagine how possible the 4.9GHz all-core stock turbo will be, given the 262W PL2 that needs to be dissipated. Not quite something I'd personally want to use.
 

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