Intel accuses Qualcomm of trying to kill mobile chip competition

WelshBloke

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Hmmm...
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Intel is doing Apple's bidding here. Apple wants to win this lawsuit (which, if Apple pulls it off, would totally kill Qualcomm's business), paint Qualcomm as the bad guy, and Intel is all to happy to oblige for its best/only modem customer and to try to knee-cap a potential serious server chip competitor.
 
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NTMBK

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Why would Intel do that though if it wouldn't be a full benefit or lose out though? Is it maybe a real strong secondary win for Intel if Apple prevailed or something I'm guessing?

If Intel can deny Qualcomm millions of dollars in patent licensing fees, then Qualcomm has less money to invest in server CPU, mobile SoC and modem R&D.

Edit: Qualcomm are a big threat to Intel in the medium term. They are encroaching on Intel in laptops (with Windows on ARM) and launching a 48-core, 10nm server CPU at the end of this year. Mass market laptops and high margin server CPUs are the two main pillars of Intel's business.
 

FIVR

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Intel is doing Apple's bidding here.

Intel has a long history of anticompetitive and illegal business practices. So when they continue to act in the same way they have acted and start slandering Qualcomm there should be no need to blame unrelated parties who have long history of upstanding business practices and fostering competition. Apple has competed head to head with Microsoft and others for decades. Intel stomps out its competitors with illegal actions and then stagnates while it sucks profits off a huge monopoly and continues to act in anticompetitive matters. This dispute with Qualcomm has direct benefit to Intel if Qualcomm is "knee capped".


Also, you fail to mention that Apple has a vested interest in keeping Qualcomm around since they are indeed superior to intel in every metric regarding GSM LTE and CDMA modems (I don't think intel even owns a patent on CDMA?). Why would Apple want to destroy their best modem producer? So they can have a terrible modem made by intel that they pay exorbitant amounts for because of intel monopoly? Why would that advantage Apple? If anything, Apple knows it needs qualcomm because intel's modems sucks so much. They have been having tons of complaints because half of the iPhone 7 made have iPhone 5S-class LTE reception.


Your argument makes absolutely zero sense except that it excuses intel. As usual.
 

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Pot: Hello, is this Kettle?
Kettle: Yes, I am. What's up?
Pot: You're black.
Kettle: No, you are black.
End of conversation.
 

formulav8

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It is funny hearing Intel complain about other company dealings/practices, All about that money for everyone.
 
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DrMrLordX

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It is funny hearing Intel complain about other company dealings/practices, All about that money for everyone.

There's more to it than that, though. Intel JUST got finished trying to bully its way into the mobile market by dumping cheap hardware. OEMs and consumers generally didn't take the bait. Now they have the temerity to complain about Qualcomm being anticompetitive when Intel just got finished trying to sell hardware below cost to grab up market share? Are they serious? Qualcomm should be suing them!
 

ViRGE

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Intel's not wrong though. Qualcomm's been spending the better part of the last 15 years using their patent portfolio to drive out the competition, and charge exorbitant rates to those who remain. And now that CDMA is on its way out and their position isn't quite as strong, they are finally being taken to task over the issue.