Insiders Hinting at a Miers Withdrawl.

zendari

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The White House has begun making contingency plans for the withdrawal of Harriet Miers as President Bush's choice to fill a seat on the Supreme Court, conservative sources said yesterday.
"White House senior staff are starting to ask outside people, saying, 'We're not discussing pulling out her nomination, but if we were to, do you have any advice as to how we should do it?' " a conservative Republican with ties to the White House told The Washington Times.
A second Republican, who is the leader of a conservative interest group and has ties to the White House, confirmed that calls are being made to a select group of conservative activists who are not employed by the government.
"The political people in the White House are very worried about how she will do in the hearings," the second conservative leader said. "I think they have finally awakened."



Great news to hear for everyone!
 

Steeplerot

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It's not good news unless bush and the neocons are going with her.

I am sure what the chimp has waiting behind door #3 is going to be a REAL winnah.. :roll:
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
its not good news unless bush is going with her.

do you prefer the devil you see or the devil you do not.

Early you complained about her being nominated; yet your bolded statement implies otherwise.
The second half of that stement wil not happen as much as you wish upon a start.
Therefore, live with what you can affect and choose the proper battles that you can at least fight.

Does no good to change your post after it has been quoted.
 

Steeplerot

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I am, my eyes are still on the prize, impeachment and tried as war criminal at the hauge.
Our country deserves nothing less.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I am, my eyes are still on the prize, impeachment and tried as war criminal at the hauge.
Our country deserves nothing less.

That has no relevance to this nomination.
 

Strk

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It would be nice if she does go away and he picks someone he isn't closely linked to. The mix between her close links to Dubya and her lack of credentials really made her such a bad choice.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
its not good news unless bush is going with her.

do you prefer the devil you see or the devil you do not.

Early you complained about her being nominated; yet your bolded statement implies otherwise.
The second half of that stement wil not happen as much as you wish upon a start.
Therefore, live with what you can affect and choose the proper battles that you can at least fight.

Does no good to change your post after it has been quoted.

I like to look at it from the other angle the damage I know it is doing to the republicians vs. the damage I don't see. If he does withdraw her the longer he waits the better. At this point it wouldn't be until late janurary for the conformation hearings for a new judge. If bush went with some one with a consiritive (anti abortion) judge the conserivites in congress would get slaughter in the elections just months away.
 

Engineer

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Personally, I don't care much but I would just as soon get this over with and back to more important issues. It would be funny to see her confirmed with more Democrat support than the GOP however. With Bush, you got what you voted for...hehe! :laugh:
 

joshw10

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Why are conservatives against Miers? She's said to be anti-abortion and is a Christian. What more do you want?
 

CellarDoor

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Originally posted by: joshw10
Why are conservatives against Miers? She's said to be anti-abortion and is a Christian. What more do you want?


Gotta be the "family values." She's single and never been married. :Q
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: joshw10
Why are conservatives against Miers? She's said to be anti-abortion and is a Christian. What more do you want?

She's not f*cked in the head enough, I guess.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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haha zendari, keep wishing. this is George Bush, the man doesn't change his mind about ANYTHING. what's funny is Bush's supposed strength is coming back to bite Republicans in the ass. she's not backing out bud, get over it.
 

joshw10

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
haha zendari, keep wishing. this is George Bush, the man doesn't change his mind about ANYTHING. what's funny is Bush's supposed strength is coming back to bite Republicans in the ass. she's not backing out bud, get over it.

Well if she does withdrawal, I'm sure the strategy will be to find a way to blame the Democrats for it
 

shira

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Originally posted by: zendari
"White House senior staff are starting to ask outside people, saying, 'We're not discussing pulling out her nomination, but if we were to, do you have any advice as to how we should do it?'"
How about this for advice"

The President should step up to the podium and make the following announcement:

"In an act typical of the continued incompetence of my Adminstration, I nominated to the Supreme court Harriet Miers. She's a wonderfully nice lady, and that and the fact that she one of my very good friends constitute her qualifications for the job. That may not sound like much, but with all this talk of this or that interest group not being represented, I thought, isn't it time that STUPID people be given a voice on the Court?

"Yes, Harriet is a pea-brain just like me. My pea-brain may be just a smidgeon larger than hers (that's why Harriet calls me "the most brilliant man I've ever met"), but she's not quite a dumb as she looks and sounds. However, the smarty-pantses of this country are insisting that the big 'ol Supreme Court is not the place for a moron. I say, what do they know? Why, just look at what a moron can accomplish in less than five years as President!

"But my closest and most trusted advisors, including those pillars of virtue Tom DeLay, Karl Rove, "Scooter" Libby, and Bill Frist - all of whom have very personal experience (and will soon have MUCH more) with the legal system and the insides of a courtroom - are telling me that Harriet must go. So I must do what I always do, listen to the voices in my head.

"There are many voices, and sometimes I have problems keeping them all straight. But I'm pretty sure I can tell when one of those voices is God (God has an unusual accent - sorta Mexican with a bit of a Texas drawl thrown in). And a Mexican-sorta voice spoke to me recently, and said, "Harriet, tu mama." Now, God isn't just one of my good friends. He's my very bestest friend. That means a lot. I realize he didn't use any last names when He spoke to me, and He might have been referring to some other Harriet. But I'm the President, which is a really HARD job. Really hard. So I have to make the tough decisions. And I've decided to dis-nomin . . ., un-nomina . . . Aw, good English is fer sissies. Anyway, sorry Harriet. God wins. "
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Lets just hope harriet miers isn't the fart before he unloads the real turd on us.

Sorry, the real turds were already unloaded. That would be Souter, Breyer, and Ginsburg.
 

NJDevil

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Lets just hope harriet miers isn't the fart before he unloads the real turd on us.

Sorry, the real turds were already unloaded. That would be Souter, Breyer, and Ginsburg.


You're funny :).
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Lets just hope harriet miers isn't the fart before he unloads the real turd on us.

Sorry, the real turds were already unloaded. That would be Souter, Breyer, and Ginsburg.

Yep this guy really sux
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Supreme Court clerk, law professor, Appeals court judge, and four books . . . definitely unqualified.:roll:

Other inferior candidates:

Luttig

Garza

Estrada

Wilkinson

Jones . . . woman, decade in private practice, two decades 5th Circuit

Posner
 

Rainsford

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I hope not, the Miers situation is a source of great personal entertainment. Some conservatives are pissed because she's not a fundy nutjob, others are joined by liberals in being pissed that she's not even slightly qualified, many people overall are pissed that it looks like more Bush cronyism, and Bush seems confounded that the right didn't ask "how high" when he said jump.

Seriously though, I kind of hope she gets replaced while at the same time I kind of don't. Part of me wants a person who's qualified for the position, and not another buddy of Bush's (they seem to have a dangerously high amount of stupid). But part of me was surprised that Bush nomiated someone like Roberts the first time around, and that part of me was surprised again by the seemingly non-wacko politics and judicial outlook of Miers. I didn't think Bush had two of those nominations in him, and I'm afraid that our limit is up, and his next pick will be someone more in line with the values and wishes of his base. Someone like Darth Vader, for example.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: zendari
You forgot Robert Bork's resume BBD.

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Nope, I didn't forget Bork. He fails the "drooling partisan" test. Admittedly, I would definitely take Bork over Clarence "affirmative action" Thomas or Anton "originalist when I'm in the mood" Scalia.