Indictments coming...

[Jhhnn]

Honestly, I don't know who I want to control the house. I'm a bit of a gridlock fan, as doing nothing is generally the best of many bad options when talking about congress.
The problem I have right now is the signal to noise ratio has gone so far out of whack that it takes a lot of effort to get facts. Speculation, hyperbole, spin, and outright lies hide a lot of valid information. Most "news" is so sensationalized as to be worthless. It's discouraging. I don't want to here about how evil one side or the other is, I just want information and well thought out opinions.

It's the Trump effect. He generates chaos & conspiracy theory as cover. He's also running scared & has been all along. There's probably reason for that.

I don't think we want people who support him in control of Congress. The effect so far tells us that.

 

[Younigue]

I have no reason to admit I was wrong.

Because you're stupid and the stupid believe their stupid.

 

[Younigue]

Fuck You

Crying little fella?

 

[Younigue]

Read the IG report with an open mind. There is plenty of bias.

That's right, you just can't get out of your own head. It's slimey, festering, hateful, unsolvable maze in there eh? Is that the bias you speak of?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

They're just people, y'all.

If you haven't you might look at the psychology of the anti-vaxxers and how education works, or rather how it doesn't.

I'm open to solutions which work in such mindsets. What do you have?

 

[Jhhnn]

If you haven't you might look at the psychology of the anti-vaxxers and how education works, or rather how it doesn't.

I'm open to solutions which work in such mindsets. What do you have?

The whole anti-vaxxer thing has seriously declined. Yeh, sure, it's still there but a lot fewer people are inclined to believe it.

We can't hope to convert fringe zealots. The best we can do is to discredit them & encourage people to use their minds to not get caught up in the bullshit. Be careful of what you believe in.

Falling for right wing politics is like crack cocaine- just because is feels good doesn't mean that it is good.

 

[interchange]

If you haven't you might look at the psychology of the anti-vaxxers and how education works, or rather how it doesn't.

I'm open to solutions which work in such mindsets. What do you have?

Well let's see last week I had a patient ask my when money was going to be illegal. I'm pretty used to fielding things which make no logical sense, although that doesn't mean they don't make sense. I find that, when you're able to show interest in the person who has a real conflict driving the illogical material, you can accomplish a lot by simply pointing out a small discrepancy. But it could just be the Zyprexa.

 

[zinfamous]

Let me bold this part that was glossed over:

" I thought everyone said this was a Republican conspiracy and there was nothing to investigate. looks like maybe there is."

Please take note of the word INVESTIGATE and Looks like maybe there is.

And that the facts showed that she is just as guilty as Petraeus. Possibly more.

and before that statement you claimed that she was already guilty, without even knowing the content of TWO EMAILS.

Why did you gloss over the "presumed guilty" part of your post?

 

[zinfamous]

Hillary mishandled classified documents.
Petraeus mishandled classified documents.

Both of those statements are facts. They are both guilty.

The FBI was overly generous to Hillary when compared to many other cases such as the sailor that took some photos and went to jail.

Trump and his sons just feed the classified information directly to our enemies.

But let's wait until even more facts are known, right?

 

[jackstar7]

Trump and his sons just feed the classified information directly to our enemies.

But let's wait until even more facts are known, right?

Let's wait for more plea deals of people admitting they are guilty of crimes... to see if any crimes were committed.

 

[pcgeek11]

and before that statement you claimed that she was already guilty, without even knowing the content of TWO EMAILS.

Why did you gloss over the "presumed guilty" part of your post?

I don't need to know the content as the information was classified as Top Secret. She mishandled the classified documents and is guilty.

This is part of the reason:

Two of the four classified messages discovered in emails turned over to the State Department by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton were labeled "top secret," the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said Tuesday.

The development in the FBI inquiry came the same day that a top intelligence official whose office has been reviewing some of Clinton’s e-mails informed congressional leaders that top-secret information had been contained in two e-mails that traveled across the server.

 

[pcgeek11]

Trump and his sons just feed the classified information directly to our enemies.

But let's wait until even more facts are known, right?

I suppose you can back that up right?

 

[JSt0rm]

I suppose you can back that up right?

do you ever back anything up?

 

[pcgeek11]

do you ever back anything up?

Yes.

 

[JSt0rm]

Yes.

well we have a dirth of evidence to the contrary.

 

[trenchfoot]

I'd have to know if those "top secret" emails of Hillary's were false leads or not before considering her culpability in the matter.

"Nothing is as it seems" is the norm where national security is concerned, especially at that level of international relations.

To assume something to prove a point is................pointless.

 

[Younigue]

Yes.

With stupidity.

 

[pcgeek11]

With stupidity.

Little pearls of wisdom coming from you...

 

[fskimospy]

I don't need to know the content as the information was classified as Top Secret. She mishandled the classified documents and is guilty.

This is part of the reason:

Two of the four classified messages discovered in emails turned over to the State Department by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton were labeled "top secret," the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said Tuesday.

The development in the FBI inquiry came the same day that a top intelligence official whose office has been reviewing some of Clinton’s e-mails informed congressional leaders that top-secret information had been contained in two e-mails that traveled across the server.

Then you are guilty as well as you have almost certainly inadvertently transmitted something in your life that contained top secret material.

We all know the game you are playing and I’m very sure that includes you. Patreus committed a crime and Clinton did not and there’s no escaping this. Because of some weird pride thing and extreme partisanship you don’t want to admit it so you invent some new offense and declare them both ‘guilty’ so you can tie Clinton to a criminal in your mind. You’re acting totally irrational.

Like we already established, you have one set of standards for Democrats and another for Republicans and it’s clear as day. You’re a hypocrite.

 

[brycejones]

I suppose you can back that up right?

Now you care about the truth?

 

[zinfamous]

I suppose you can back that up right?

are you fucking serious right now?

 

[Younigue]

Little pearls of wisdom coming from you...

Thanks dude! Stop being stupid.

 

[Jhhnn]

Buttery males is some sort of mental shield that Trumpsters throw up when stressed, when confronted with developments unflattering to the Great Leader. It's a way to kill honest discussion wrt any subject.

 

[Amused]

You don't get to decide that this never happens again. The people you're disparaging are US citizens that voted in a legal election. Pretending that Russian wizards used their Jedi mind control to sway the results is a fun little game, but it is a game. The smug superiority exhibited by many on the far left probably swayed far more votes than Gandalf's Russian brother. The answer to that is of course that the far left doesn't care about a bunch of ignorant knuckle dragging toothless rednecks, an attitude that will work well for Trump in 2020.

You know you've run out of arguments when you attempt to deny the fact that propaganda and advertising works.

Seriously.

We have centuries of proof. Advertising is one of the largest industries in the world. Why would that be if it is not wildly effective? Propaganda is historically the most effective tool to sway public opinion, used since the earliest governments. Using lies as weapons has been wildly successful. In fact, viral advertising/propaganda has proven to be even more effective. This is the very kind used by Russia in the election. With many of you STILL spouting the lies they spread.

And you attempt to deny it.

Seriously?

Do you not realize how pathetically stupid this makes you look?

 

[fskimospy]

You know you've run out of arguments when you attempt to deny the fact that propaganda and advertising works.

Seriously.

We have centuries of proof. Advertising is one of the largest industries in the world. Why would that be if it is not wildly effective? Propaganda is historically the most effective tool to sway public opinion, used since the earliest governments. Using lies as weapons has been wildly successful. In fact, viral advertising/propaganda has proven to be even more effective. This is the very kind used by Russia in the election. With many of you STILL spouting the lies they spread.

And you attempt to deny it.

Seriously?

Do you not realize how pathetically stupid this makes you look?

I've always liked how people like him deny that Russian propaganda had any effect on the election but are simultaneously convinced the librul media hurts conservatives through bias against them. They apparently have no issue holding the same two thoughts in their head at the same time.