Indictments coming...

[fskimospy]

Hillary mishandled classified documents.
Petraeus mishandled classified documents.

Both of those statements are facts. They are both guilty.

Petraeus committed a crime. Clinton did not. Both of those statements are facts. Saying they are equally guilty is false and I’m certain you know this.

Regardless, you judged one person before the investigation was over and now you’re telling others not to judge until the investigation is over. You are a hypocrite.

 

[Younigue]

You obviously do not understand the written word.

Petraeus mishandled sensitive information. So did Hillary. Those are the facts.

You are cancer.

Tell us what you feel about how several Trump people are handling their email or that Trump uses an unsecured phone? Guilty guilty guilty, correct?

It's truly fu*ked up what a stain you are. So astoundingly stupid. A dead weight on humanity. Everything about your essence is just a dark void swirling with ugliness. Your every thought is pure shit especially when you try to give the appearance of being balanced.

Hey! Decent human beings reading this post? I love you! <--- Oooo! Check it out pc *wink*! I save my loathing for the loathsome. Tell you what, stop being loathsome I'll love you too... Promise! Making your heart pitter patter? You have a very long, arduous journey ahead of you to go from zero to hero first! Get-ta-steppin'! I'm worth it!

 

[pcgeek11]

Petraeus committed a crime. Clinton did not. Both of those statements are facts. Saying they are equally guilty is false and I’m certain you know this.

Regardless, you judged one person before the investigation was over and now you’re telling others not to judge until the investigation is over. You are a hypocrite.

They are both guilty of mishandling classified material as per the facts.

I am certain that you know that, or should.

 

[Greenman]

You are very much correct. These people are not backing down or will ever admit they are the problem in this country and that they fucked up very bad. No... that won't happen. If anything it's emboldened them even more. No, it will take all the lazy moderates and liberals to put an end to this shit show. This will work if people vote.... however...

What we do going forward to assure this never happens again will be the rub...

You don't get to decide that this never happens again. The people you're disparaging are US citizens that voted in a legal election. Pretending that Russian wizards used their Jedi mind control to sway the results is a fun little game, but it is a game. The smug superiority exhibited by many on the far left probably swayed far more votes than Gandalf's Russian brother. The answer to that is of course that the far left doesn't care about a bunch of ignorant knuckle dragging toothless rednecks, an attitude that will work well for Trump in 2020.

 

[fskimospy]

They are both guilty of mishandling classified material as per the facts.

I am certain that you know that, or should.

Haha, nice weasel words. One engaged in criminal activity and one did not. They are not equally guilty by any rational definition of the word. You know exactly what you’re doing here and it’s both childish and dishonest. We’ve already established you’re a hypocrite, don’t be a liar too.

The endless attempts to make discussions about Trump’s massive corruption and criminal activity about Clinton is really tiresome. Even if Clinton were 100% guilty of everything you made up in your head it is irrelevant to Trump.

 

[fskimospy]

You don't get to decide that this never happens again. The people you're disparaging are US citizens that voted in a legal election. Pretending that Russian wizards used their Jedi mind control to sway the results is a fun little game, but it is a game. The smug superiority exhibited by many on the far left probably swayed far more votes than Gandalf's Russian brother. The answer to that is of course that the far left doesn't care about a bunch of ignorant knuckle dragging toothless rednecks, an attitude that will work well for Trump in 2020.

Even though there’s zero evidence for the idea that liberals being mean was the reason people voted for Trump even if that were true it doesn’t matter. Russian intervention was a crime. It’s likely that Trump is in office now due to that crime. (If that criminal activity caused even 1% of voters to switch or stay home then Clinton wins without it)

So far even with a well functioning economy Trump is very unpopular. Looks like whatever the Evil Libruls are doing is working well.

 

[pcgeek11]

Haha, nice weasel words. One engaged in criminal activity and one did not. They are not equally guilty by any rational definition of the word. You know exactly what you’re doing here and it’s both childish and dishonest. We’ve already established you’re a hypocrite, don’t be a liar too.

The endless attempts to make discussions about Trump’s massive corruption and criminal activity about Clinton is really tiresome. Even if Clinton were 100% guilty of everything you made up in your head it is irrelevant to Trump.

Deny all you wish. Both did it, one was convicted and one got a pass.

I didn't bring up Clinton.... Look back, it was Paratus talk to him about how tired you are of it.

 

[Greenman]

Even though there’s zero evidence for the idea that liberals being mean was the reason people voted for Trump even if that were true it doesn’t matter. Russian intervention was a crime. It’s likely that Trump is in office now due to that crime. (If that criminal activity caused even 1% of voters to switch or stay home then Clinton wins without it)

So far even with a well functioning economy Trump is very unpopular. Looks like whatever the Evil Libruls are doing is working well.

Libs aren't evil, just not real strong on people skills. The far right has the same problem though they're more low key about it.
I'm not sure what makes you think the libs are doing well. The right holds the federal government and the majority of the states, along with the supreme court.

 

[sactoking]

Yes, the far right is certainly very "low key" about their "lack of people skills."

 

[fskimospy]

Deny all you wish. Both did it, one was convicted and one got a pass.

I didn't bring up Clinton.... Look back, it was Paratus talk to him about how tired you are of it.

No, both were investigated by impartial authorities. One was found to have committed a crime, the other was not. There is no escaping this simple fact. Clinton is innocent, Patreus is guilty. I totally called it that you would declare the FBI biased because they didn’t share your opinion though, haha. I love how it’s never that you were just wrong and that she’s innocent, you just assumed her guilt based on extreme partisanship and then decided any law enforcement agency that decided otherwise was part of the conspiracy.

Paratus brought up your hypocrisy but then you started lying about Clinton’s guilt. You should have just admitted you were wrong.

 

[fskimospy]

Libs aren't evil, just not real strong on people skills. The far right has the same problem though they're more low key about it.
I'm not sure what makes you think the libs are doing well. The right holds the federal government and the majority of the states, along with the supreme court.

I just said what makes me think that. The current tactics of keeping Trump’s corruption and instability front and center has him at very low popularity levels despite a well functioning economy and is leading to 20+% vote swings in special elections.

I imagine you share my hope that the Democrats at least win the House in November, that way our country can function with effective oversight of the executive branch. I mean we both know it’s very likely there’s been a great deal of criminal activity going on in the current administration and it’s time to start rooting it out.

 

[ivwshane]

What!!! Pcgeek is shown to be a hypocritical piece of shit again, using his own words? No way! That has never happened, except for the dozens of times it has happened!

 

[Greenman]

I just said what makes me think that. The current tactics of keeping Trump’s corruption and instability front and center has him at very low popularity levels despite a well functioning economy and is leading to 20+% vote swings in special elections.

I imagine you share my hope that the Democrats at least win the House in November, that way our country can function with effective oversight of the executive branch. I mean we both know it’s very likely there’s been a great deal of criminal activity going on in the current administration and it’s time to start rooting it out.

Honestly, I don't know who I want to control the house. I'm a bit of a gridlock fan, as doing nothing is generally the best of many bad options when talking about congress.
The problem I have right now is the signal to noise ratio has gone so far out of whack that it takes a lot of effort to get facts. Speculation, hyperbole, spin, and outright lies hide a lot of valid information. Most "news" is so sensationalized as to be worthless. It's discouraging. I don't want to here about how evil one side or the other is, I just want information and well thought out opinions.

 

[Paratus]

Deny all you wish. Both did it, one was convicted and one got a pass.

I didn't bring up Clinton.... Look back, it was Paratus talk to him about how tired you are of it.

I’m sure Fski followed along. He’s known to read quite well.

I was simply pointing out how you treat conservatives differently than liberals and then justify it to yourself.

 

[fskimospy]

Honestly, I don't know who I want to control the house. I'm a bit of a gridlock fan, as doing nothing is generally the best of many bad options when talking about congress.
The problem I have right now is the signal to noise ratio has gone so far out of whack that it takes a lot of effort to get facts. Speculation, hyperbole, spin, and outright lies hide a lot of valid information. Most "news" is so sensationalized as to be worthless. It's discouraging. I don't want to here about how evil one side or the other is, I just want information and well thought out opinions.

I’m honestly stunned that you aren’t sure which party you want to control the House.

I feel like having effective oversight of the executive branch should be a nonpartisan thing everyone can agree on. Currently, Republicans are engaging in zero oversight. We already have confirmed evidence that foreign individuals were attempting to bribe Trump’s personal attorney in order to get policy favors. If they are willing to do that it seems reasonable to infer that they might try to bribe Trump directly. Republicans have not even bothered to look.

As one party has abrogated its constitutional duties we all need to stand together and ensure that they pay the price.

 

[pcgeek11]

No, both were investigated by impartial authorities. One was found to have committed a crime, the other was not. There is no escaping this simple fact. Clinton is innocent, Patreus is guilty. I totally called it that you would declare the FBI biased because they didn’t share your opinion though, haha. I love how it’s never that you were just wrong and that she’s innocent, you just assumed her guilt based on extreme partisanship and then decided any law enforcement agency that decided otherwise was part of the conspiracy.

Paratus brought up your hypocrisy but then you started lying about Clinton’s guilt. You should have just admitted you were wrong.

I have no reason to admit I was wrong.

 

[pcgeek11]

What!!! Pcgeek is shown to be a hypocritical piece of shit again, using his own words? No way! That has never happened, except for the dozens of times it has happened!

Fuck You

 

[pcgeek11]

I’m sure Fski followed along. He’s known to read quite well.

I was simply pointing out how you treat conservatives differently than liberals and then justify it to yourself.

" I thought everyone said this was a Republican conspiracy and there was nothing to investigate. looks like maybe there is."

Please take note of the word INVESTIGATE and Looks like maybe there is.

 

[UNCjigga]

Back on topic...Roger Stone suddenly remembers meeting with a Russian to discuss getting dirt on Hillary Clinton. "Oops, sorry I forgot guys, totally slipped my mind!!!! I handle $2M transactions all the time!!!"

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/politics/roger-stone-henry-greenberg-michael-caputo/index.html

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Conservative political provocateur Roger Stone in 2016 met with a Russian who offered damaging information about Hillary Clinton in exchange for $2 million, Stone told The Washington Post.

Michael Caputo, a former communications official for Donald Trump's presidential campaign, told the Post he arranged the meeting with a man named Henry Greenberg.

Caputo and Stone did not disclose the meeting to congressional investigators, but it has become a focus in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the Trump campaign...

 

[pcgeek11]

No, both were investigated by impartial authorities. One was found to have committed a crime, the other was not. There is no escaping this simple fact. Clinton is innocent, Patreus is guilty. I totally called it that you would declare the FBI biased because they didn’t share your opinion though, haha. I love how it’s never that you were just wrong and that she’s innocent, you just assumed her guilt based on extreme partisanship and then decided any law enforcement agency that decided otherwise was part of the conspiracy.

Paratus brought up your hypocrisy but then you started lying about Clinton’s guilt. You should have just admitted you were wrong.

Read the IG report with an open mind. There is plenty of bias.

 

[fskimospy]

Read the IG report with an open mind. There is plenty of bias.

I have read it. It was the conclusion of the report that there was no bias in the decision to not prosecute her and that conclusion was unequivocal.

Time to admit you were wrong. (You will never do this, haha)

 

[Moonbeam]

Honestly, I don't know who I want to control the house. I'm a bit of a gridlock fan, as doing nothing is generally the best of many bad options when talking about congress.
The problem I have right now is the signal to noise ratio has gone so far out of whack that it takes a lot of effort to get facts. Speculation, hyperbole, spin, and outright lies hide a lot of valid information. Most "news" is so sensationalized as to be worthless. It's discouraging. I don't want to here about how evil one side or the other is, I just want information and well thought out opinions.

That won't be easy if you have a confirmation bias that hides those from you. I have told you before that the real reason you experience so much uncertainty as to what is the truth is that it conflicts with ideas you identify with that you were told you would gain respect for believing. You want and desire to be a good person but not everything you believe to be good actually is. You will still be a good person, a better person I believe, without your sacred cows.

Just take one example, divided government is best. No republican believes that. Republicans are the party of moral certainty and rectitude. People like that never compromise with evil. But they want evil to be compromised by them.

 

[pcgeek11]

I have read it. It was the conclusion of the report that there was no bias in the decision to not prosecute her and that conclusion was unequivocal.

Time to admit you were wrong. (You will never do this, haha)

I know what the conclusion was...

The point is she had classified documents on her personal server and not being controlled in any way.

Hillary is a dead horse and it is pointless to discuss her as we will never see eye to eye.

The Mueller investigation should continue until it is concluded, what ever the outcome. In my opinion: If they have something then they should bring it to bear and get it over like ripping off a band-aid for the good of the country.

 

[Moonbeam]

I have read it. It was the conclusion of the report that there was no bias in the decision to not prosecute her and that conclusion was unequivocal.

Time to admit you were wrong. (You will never do this, haha)

I don't believe that for a moment. I am sure that if Clinton could be jailed for her email issue and advocating her punishment too harsh and excessive became somehow politically expedient for Trump to proclaim, pc would be able immediately to see the error of his past opinion. "Right, she was put in jail despite no guilt having been found. I actually knew that all the time."

 

[Moonbeam]

I know what the conclusion was...

The point is she had classified documents on her personal server and not being controlled in any way.

Hillary is a dead horse and it is pointless to discuss her as we will never see eye to eye.

The Mueller investigation should continue until it is concluded, what ever the outcome. In my opinion: If they have something then they should bring it to bear and get it over like ripping off a band-aid for the good of the country.

Your personal torture watching the mask of your hero being slowly destroyed is of no importance to the spin rate of the wheels of justice. The thing about real justice is that it is fact based and gathering facts has its own timetable. Get used to the spit.