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BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Aimster.... Stop hijacking threads and bringing up Iran. NOBODY CARES.

Hey idiot what the hell are you talking about? I was comparing India to Iran's population and then all the people in here go off at me for bringing up Iran. No not all the people, 1 guy from India with pride, Sultan the Iranian hater and pro Pakistan guy, and you who follows Sultan around and defends him in every thread. Hmm.. OK.

and you shouldn't even be allowed to post in here for supporting Sultan and always defending him in every thread. This is the same guy who says Pakistan is a superior nation to every Jew loving nation around him. He is the same person who says women are pigs if they don't wear a head scarf.

Show me how I brought up Iran just to bring up Iran?
That's what I thought. Another guy who doesn't know what he is talking about.

And how did I bring up Iran other than that? Huh? Sultan said something and I corrected him by listing three nations and Iran happened to be one of them. So in correcting this pro Pakistani lover I am not allowed to mention Iran to correct him? You make no sense.


All your posts reek of desperation. This was another rambling desperation post. Just wondering how old you are? You can't be older than 16.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Aimster.... Stop hijacking threads and bringing up Iran. NOBODY CARES.

Hey idiot what the hell are you talking about? I was comparing India to Iran's population and then all the people in here go off at me for bringing up Iran. No not all the people, 1 guy from India with pride, Sultan the Iranian hater and pro Pakistan guy, and you who follows Sultan around and defends him in every thread. Hmm.. OK.

and you shouldn't even be allowed to post in here for supporting Sultan and always defending him in every thread. This is the same guy who says Pakistan is a superior nation to every Jew loving nation around him. He is the same person who says women are pigs if they don't wear a head scarf.

Show me how I brought up Iran just to bring up Iran?
That's what I thought. Another guy who doesn't know what he is talking about.

And how did I bring up Iran other than that? Huh? Sultan said something and I corrected him by listing three nations and Iran happened to be one of them. So in correcting this pro Pakistani lover I am not allowed to mention Iran to correct him? You make no sense.


All your posts reek of desperation. This was another rambling desperation post. Just wondering how old you are? You can't be older than 16.

desperation? I shutup Sultan because he knew he brought up Pakistan and you just type 1 sentence. Does dictionary.com not translate pargraphs for you?
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

What do I care about Iran or Turkey or China? Do you even read idiot? I was giving an explanation why Pakistan compares itself to India. You're a total retard dude.

Hate to agree with you, Sultan :p

Agree on what? Pakistan is not India's nearest economic rival at all.

And you I don't even know why you are posting again. You go off at me for comparing India to Iran but you can compare India to Pakistan.

Please...
He means geographically nearest. And also India is Pakistans bitter rival so thats another reason
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

What do I care about Iran or Turkey or China? Do you even read idiot? I was giving an explanation why Pakistan compares itself to India. You're a total retard dude.

Hate to agree with you, Sultan :p

Agree on what? Pakistan is not India's nearest economic rival at all.

And you I don't even know why you are posting again. You go off at me for comparing India to Iran but you can compare India to Pakistan.

Please...
He means geographically nearest. And also India is Pakistans bitter rival so thats another reason

That's not what he meant. He wanted to make this into a Pakistan/India thing by somehow praising Pakistan. He wanted to bring up Pakistan for no reason at all. Sultan has hidden motives and it is known in all his threads. Even in the PMs he shares with me. He calls nations around them scums for being Jew lovers and having "whores" while he praises his mighty Pakistan as the best nation ever. He even talks bad of the greatest nation of all, U.S.

He also didn't say that when I asked him what he meant about it. If that is what he meant, surely he would have said it. Sultan always replies to my comments when he thinks I am wrong, but he skipped over it.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

What do I care about Iran or Turkey or China? Do you even read idiot? I was giving an explanation why Pakistan compares itself to India. You're a total retard dude.

Hate to agree with you, Sultan :p

Agree on what? Pakistan is not India's nearest economic rival at all.

And you I don't even know why you are posting again. You go off at me for comparing India to Iran but you can compare India to Pakistan.

Please...
He means geographically nearest. And also India is Pakistans bitter rival so thats another reason

That's not what he meant. He wanted to make this into a Pakistan/India thing by somehow praising Pakistan. He wanted to bring up Pakistan for no reason at all. Sultan has hidden motives and it is known in all his threads. Even in the PMs he shares with me. He calls nations around them scums for being Jew lovers and having "whores" while he praises his mighty Pakistan as the best nation ever. He even talks bad of the greatest nation of all, U.S.

He also didn't say that when I asked him what he meant about it. If that is what he meant, surely he would have said it. Sultan always replies to my comments when he thinks I am wrong, but he skipped over it.

Well Pakistan is a sh!thole, and most of the people know that. No matter how hard people try to change facts, it just wont happen.

Thank the US for providing Pakistan with surveillance aircraft and F-16's not to mention other weapons systems. Also, we wrote off most of Pakistan's $38 billion worth of debt. Cant believe our leaders treat this terrorist nation like that...... major hypocrisy is what i call it
 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

What do I care about Iran or Turkey or China? Do you even read idiot? I was giving an explanation why Pakistan compares itself to India. You're a total retard dude.

Hate to agree with you, Sultan :p

Agree on what? Pakistan is not India's nearest economic rival at all.

And you I don't even know why you are posting again. You go off at me for comparing India to Iran but you can compare India to Pakistan.

Please...
He means geographically nearest. And also India is Pakistans bitter rival so thats another reason

That's not what he meant. He wanted to make this into a Pakistan/India thing by somehow praising Pakistan. He wanted to bring up Pakistan for no reason at all. Sultan has hidden motives and it is known in all his threads. Even in the PMs he shares with me. He calls nations around them scums for being Jew lovers and having "whores" while he praises his mighty Pakistan as the best nation ever. He even talks bad of the greatest nation of all, U.S.

He also didn't say that when I asked him what he meant about it. If that is what he meant, surely he would have said it. Sultan always replies to my comments when he thinks I am wrong, but he skipped over it.


Stop being a snitch.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

What do I care about Iran or Turkey or China? Do you even read idiot? I was giving an explanation why Pakistan compares itself to India. You're a total retard dude.

Hate to agree with you, Sultan :p

Agree on what? Pakistan is not India's nearest economic rival at all.

And you I don't even know why you are posting again. You go off at me for comparing India to Iran but you can compare India to Pakistan.

Please...
He means geographically nearest. And also India is Pakistans bitter rival so thats another reason

That's not what he meant. He wanted to make this into a Pakistan/India thing by somehow praising Pakistan. He wanted to bring up Pakistan for no reason at all. Sultan has hidden motives and it is known in all his threads. Even in the PMs he shares with me. He calls nations around them scums for being Jew lovers and having "whores" while he praises his mighty Pakistan as the best nation ever. He even talks bad of the greatest nation of all, U.S.

He also didn't say that when I asked him what he meant about it. If that is what he meant, surely he would have said it. Sultan always replies to my comments when he thinks I am wrong, but he skipped over it.


Stop being a snitch.

You and Sultan share the same beliefs we know, ok?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: ScottFern
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
back on the origional discision (or at least towards it), india will not be able to compete with china, as china is a "capitalist" dictatorship, who will do what the business whats and not what the people want. Capitalism flourishes under dictatorship, which can be shown in part by the rapid economic recovery in "freemarket" dictatorships like fascist italy or nazi germany, and "stagnate" under democracy (europe) do to the instablity of such systems.

Yeah, but since when is a dictatorship stable. It seems to me that sooner or later China will have a revolution, successful or not who knows. But the younger generation is very unsettled. And this whole Taiwan thing is a mess.

I think India, if they play their cards right with investments, can be equal to or surpass China. Just my crazy opinion.

STOP QUOTING EVERYONE AND STAY ON TOPIC!!!!

businesses dictatorships don't have to worry about REAL elections every few years, and the reprocusions, as democracies have a strange habit of voting in REAL liberals who might actually do something from time to time.

Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: ScottFern
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
back on the origional discision (or at least towards it), india will not be able to compete with china, as china is a "capitalist" dictatorship, who will do what the business whats and not what the people want. Capitalism flourishes under dictatorship, which can be shown in part by the rapid economic recovery in "freemarket" dictatorships like fascist italy or nazi germany, and "stagnate" under democracy (europe) do to the instablity of such systems.

Yeah, but since when is a dictatorship stable. It seems to me that sooner or later China will have a revolution, successful or not who knows. But the younger generation is very unsettled. And this whole Taiwan thing is a mess.

I think India, if they play their cards right with investments, can be equal to or surpass China. Just my crazy opinion.

STOP QUOTING EVERYONE AND STAY ON TOPIC!!!!

India's pop. is younger than China so it means India will have a huge labor force well into the future, when many of China's will be older. This is one advantage India has. Other is that Indians speak english, which is the worlds language.

and then peak oil will hit and things will go ugly to say the least. :( :( :(

I will consede the english point though, never thought about that.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

What do I care about Iran or Turkey or China? Do you even read idiot? I was giving an explanation why Pakistan compares itself to India. You're a total retard dude.

Hate to agree with you, Sultan :p

Agree on what? Pakistan is not India's nearest economic rival at all.

And you I don't even know why you are posting again. You go off at me for comparing India to Iran but you can compare India to Pakistan.

Please...
He means geographically nearest. And also India is Pakistans bitter rival so thats another reason

That's not what he meant. He wanted to make this into a Pakistan/India thing by somehow praising Pakistan. He wanted to bring up Pakistan for no reason at all. Sultan has hidden motives and it is known in all his threads. Even in the PMs he shares with me. He calls nations around them scums for being Jew lovers and having "whores" while he praises his mighty Pakistan as the best nation ever. He even talks bad of the greatest nation of all, U.S.

He also didn't say that when I asked him what he meant about it. If that is what he meant, surely he would have said it. Sultan always replies to my comments when he thinks I am wrong, but he skipped over it.

Well Pakistan is a sh!thole, and most of the people know that. No matter how hard people try to change facts, it just wont happen.

Thank the US for providing Pakistan with surveillance aircraft and F-16's not to mention other weapons systems. Also, we wrote off most of Pakistan's $38 billion worth of debt. Cant believe our leaders treat this terrorist nation like that...... major hypocrisy is what i call it

I thought the F-16s were never delivered to Pakistan because of the sanctions and once the sanctions were lifted they refused to ship them.
 

BarneyFife

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Better not say anything but I saw a few fbi looking cars outside and they tapped my internet. Someone is deleting all my porn!!
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Better not say anything but I saw a few fbi looking cars outside and they tapped my internet. Someone is deleting all my porn!!

Nice one. So that makes you more superior to me because you support a child killer, jew hater, women basher, world hater? Then you ask me how old I am, ok. Very mature. I can see you have no class.

It is very well known to me that Sultan brought his friends into P&N. It is obvious who they are in his threads he creates. For some reason by influencing this anandtech P&N crowd the world will somehow change for the better in their eyes...
 

Aimster

Lifer
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BarneyFife: I'll somewhat get disinterested but it will be fun to hear how bad everything is going in Iraq. I love bad news from Iraq!!
BarneyFife: The marines in Iraq are murderers. I have no sympathy for them.

Again look who I am figthing with. You people need to get out of P&N. Other people ignore you. I will fight you. If that means I get banned for figthting for the good then so be it.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Why do you get so desperate in your posts? What are you afraid of?

Read my last post. I just have one last thing to say. Get out of the United States. Bye
 

BarneyFife

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No you don't. You'll continue to stalk me in all my posts and write 10 paragraph replies calling me a racist, bigot, jew hater, child killer, and any other ridiculous nonsense you can come up with. You act like an animal that is cornered.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
No you don't. You'll continue to stalk me in all my posts and write 10 paragraph replies calling me a racist, bigot, jew hater, child killer, and any other ridiculous nonsense you can come up with. You act like an animal that is cornered.

Think what you want.
BarneyFife: I'll somewhat get disinterested but it will be fun to hear how bad everything is going in Iraq. I love bad news from Iraq!!
BarneyFife: The marines in Iraq are murderers. I have no sympathy for them.
 

BarneyFife

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Whatever. I just hope you grow up or you'll soon be banned for being a pest. Have a Merry Christmas.
 

athithi

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ScottFern:

Thomas Friedman of the New York Times wrote a series of articles and hosted a program on Discovery channel about India and outsourcing. The westernization of India was one of the topics he covered, though very briefly. The program showed how just a few streets away from the newfound prosperity and opportunities lay another side of India that still seemed to be stuck in the pre-independence era. You could probably search for the articles from the NY Times archives. Friedman pretty much answers your question by stating that globalization is sustainable in India simply because Indians have a way of Indianizing western concepts and ideas. Where western culture is accepted blindly, it will erode and weaken. Where it is adapted and made suitable to the local environment, it will greatly help society progress.

Not everybody will see it the same way, unfortunately. And yes, people will blame westernization for the Delhi Public School scandal. Heck, there are some numbnut Hindu activists trying to get 'Valentine's Day' banned (though that definitely was a creation of Hallmark cards for purely commercial purposes :D ). But I think the people that are most active in modernizing India will know to look past these things. The future will still reach India, cellphones and sex scandals notwithstanding :)

EDIT: No more rhetoric questions from me in this thread...
EDIT 2: No more digressions from me, either :)
 

Aimster

Lifer
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athithi

Why don't you ask that to the other people who have nothing to add to this discussion? How mature by picking out my post. Everything you have went off on me has been done by other people, yet you never commented on them. Just proves my point about what I said earlier to you at the start of this thread.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

What do I care about Iran or Turkey or China? Do you even read idiot? I was giving an explanation why Pakistan compares itself to India. You're a total retard dude.

Hate to agree with you, Sultan :p

Agree on what? Pakistan is not India's nearest economic rival at all.

And you I don't even know why you are posting again. You go off at me for comparing India to Iran but you can compare India to Pakistan.

Please...
He means geographically nearest. And also India is Pakistans bitter rival so thats another reason

That's not what he meant. He wanted to make this into a Pakistan/India thing by somehow praising Pakistan. He wanted to bring up Pakistan for no reason at all. Sultan has hidden motives and it is known in all his threads. Even in the PMs he shares with me. He calls nations around them scums for being Jew lovers and having "whores" while he praises his mighty Pakistan as the best nation ever. He even talks bad of the greatest nation of all, U.S.

He also didn't say that when I asked him what he meant about it. If that is what he meant, surely he would have said it. Sultan always replies to my comments when he thinks I am wrong, but he skipped over it.

Well Pakistan is a sh!thole, and most of the people know that. No matter how hard people try to change facts, it just wont happen.

Thank the US for providing Pakistan with surveillance aircraft and F-16's not to mention other weapons systems. Also, we wrote off most of Pakistan's $38 billion worth of debt. Cant believe our leaders treat this terrorist nation like that...... major hypocrisy is what i call it

I thought the F-16s were never delivered to Pakistan because of the sanctions and once the sanctions were lifted they refused to ship them.

Pakistan has more than 20 F-16's, maybe even close to 40. Some say if we deliver more to them, they'll have about 80 in total
 

DeeKnow

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Originally posted by: Aimster

1 billion people+ / GDP = less per capita.
Iran's economy is growing at a fast rate of 5.5% while India's is growing at 6.5%. Iran too has a very well established education system, but the jobs are not there. Most of the Indian economy is self-employed (60%). What percent of India is actually above the poverty line? In India more than 40% of the population is illiterate.
Iran's GDP 550-600Billion , with 70 million people
India's GDP 2.2Triillion with 1.1Billion+ people.

buddy check your sources

your data is way out of line..... WAY OUT
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

What do I care about Iran or Turkey or China? Do you even read idiot? I was giving an explanation why Pakistan compares itself to India. You're a total retard dude.

Hate to agree with you, Sultan :p

Agree on what? Pakistan is not India's nearest economic rival at all.

And you I don't even know why you are posting again. You go off at me for comparing India to Iran but you can compare India to Pakistan.

Please...
He means geographically nearest. And also India is Pakistans bitter rival so thats another reason

That's not what he meant. He wanted to make this into a Pakistan/India thing by somehow praising Pakistan. He wanted to bring up Pakistan for no reason at all. Sultan has hidden motives and it is known in all his threads. Even in the PMs he shares with me. He calls nations around them scums for being Jew lovers and having "whores" while he praises his mighty Pakistan as the best nation ever. He even talks bad of the greatest nation of all, U.S.

He also didn't say that when I asked him what he meant about it. If that is what he meant, surely he would have said it. Sultan always replies to my comments when he thinks I am wrong, but he skipped over it.

you have the mind of a 2 year old :p
 
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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I know some Indians that just recently came over to the US. When I met them I did not know that they have only been in the country for a year because they spoke English so well and they are very smart. Please, comparing Pakistan to India is some kind of joke. I can see India and China duking it out in the future in terms of the labor market.

true. however, Pakistan compares itself to India as its nearest economic rival, as Pakistan at most can achieve regional power. India on the other hand can achieve global economic might. Besides, I think Indian economic growth is a good for Pakistan as at some point, the labor in India is sure to become expensive with rising cost of living, and major corporations will move west and invest in Pakistan to get a lower cost of labor.

Pakistan can compare itself to whatever it wants. It will still be a shvthole of a country for quite some time.
 
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Originally posted by: Aimster
That's not what he meant. He wanted to make this into a Pakistan/India thing by somehow praising Pakistan. He wanted to bring up Pakistan for no reason at all. Sultan has hidden motives and it is known in all his threads. Even in the PMs he shares with me. He calls nations around them scums for being Jew lovers and having "whores" while he praises his mighty Pakistan as the best nation ever. He even talks bad of the greatest nation of all, U.S.

He also didn't say that when I asked him what he meant about it. If that is what he meant, surely he would have said it. Sultan always replies to my comments when he thinks I am wrong, but he skipped over it.

Oh, this is so funny. It would be hilarious if he really thinks that Pakistan is a great country! It is just a turd on the face of this planet. Hahahahaha!