India's growing Westernization

[ScottFern]

For Christ's sake, lets stay on topic. Now a couple of you brought up some good points.
Thank you for your contribution athithi, I should try to look up that article sounds very interesting. I am glad you could see what I meant when I said westernization.

Yes, I think its interesting that India has the worlds largest democracy and a secular one at that. I believe that will drive India to the forefront of economic prosperity. Everyone says China is what India can be in the future. My personal opinion is that China isn't as stable as it comes off, and India with peace in Kashmir has sustained relative peace.

I think this driving globalization cannot be stopped, and it stands to better a lot of countries while bringing some down a step, like the U.S.

I can just appreciate the fact, like athithi pointed out, India has been able to put an Indian spin on westernization and can prosper and adapt. Who knows where India will end up in 20 - 40 years from now but I really think they will end up as an economic powerhouse much like Japan.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: Aimster

1 billion people+ / GDP = less per capita.
Iran's economy is growing at a fast rate of 5.5% while India's is growing at 6.5%. Iran too has a very well established education system, but the jobs are not there. Most of the Indian economy is self-employed (60%). What percent of India is actually above the poverty line? In India more than 40% of the population is illiterate.
Iran's GDP 550-600Billion , with 70 million people
India's GDP 2.2Triillion with 1.1Billion+ people.

buddy check your sources

your data is way out of line..... WAY OUT

Why don't you prove me wrong? Nobody here who is from India was able to discredit my information so obviously my information has some facts to it.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: Aimster

1 billion people+ / GDP = less per capita.
Iran's economy is growing at a fast rate of 5.5% while India's is growing at 6.5%. Iran too has a very well established education system, but the jobs are not there. Most of the Indian economy is self-employed (60%). What percent of India is actually above the poverty line? In India more than 40% of the population is illiterate.
Iran's GDP 550-600Billion , with 70 million people
India's GDP 2.2Triillion with 1.1Billion+ people.

buddy check your sources

your data is way out of line..... WAY OUT

Why don't you prove me wrong? Nobody here who is from India was able to discredit my information so obviously my information has some facts to it.

What everyone is saying is that India and Iran are completely different. And you comparing them out of the blue didnt sit too well with many.

60% of Indian population is self employed? yes if by that you mean they are farmers

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: Aimster

1 billion people+ / GDP = less per capita.
Iran's economy is growing at a fast rate of 5.5% while India's is growing at 6.5%. Iran too has a very well established education system, but the jobs are not there. Most of the Indian economy is self-employed (60%). What percent of India is actually above the poverty line? In India more than 40% of the population is illiterate.
Iran's GDP 550-600Billion , with 70 million people
India's GDP 2.2Triillion with 1.1Billion+ people.

buddy check your sources

your data is way out of line..... WAY OUT

Why don't you prove me wrong? Nobody here who is from India was able to discredit my information so obviously my information has some facts to it.

What everyone is saying is that India and Iran are completely different. And you comparing them out of the blue didnt sit too well with many.

60% of Indian population is self employed? yes if by that you mean they are farmers

I don't think that is what he meant. Nobody commented on the India and Pakistan comparision. I don't see how that is any different from what I said earlier. Because they speak the same language?

My comparision to India and Iran was for the population and that information was directed at someone else's question regarding Iran and India. I bet if I said Netherlands nobody would have said anything. This turned into a culture war.

I bet if I said Australia nobody would have said anything either

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: Aimster

1 billion people+ / GDP = less per capita.
Iran's economy is growing at a fast rate of 5.5% while India's is growing at 6.5%. Iran too has a very well established education system, but the jobs are not there. Most of the Indian economy is self-employed (60%). What percent of India is actually above the poverty line? In India more than 40% of the population is illiterate.
Iran's GDP 550-600Billion , with 70 million people
India's GDP 2.2Triillion with 1.1Billion+ people.

buddy check your sources

your data is way out of line..... WAY OUT

Why don't you prove me wrong? Nobody here who is from India was able to discredit my information so obviously my information has some facts to it.

What everyone is saying is that India and Iran are completely different. And you comparing them out of the blue didnt sit too well with many.

60% of Indian population is self employed? yes if by that you mean they are farmers

I don't think that is what he meant. Nobody commented on the India and Pakistan comparision. I don't see how that is any different from what I said earlier. Because they speak the same language?

My comparision to India and Iran was for the population and that information was directed at someone else's question regarding Iran and India. I bet if I said Netherlands nobody would have said anything. This turned into a culture war.

I bet if I said Australia nobody would have said anything either

Everyone has suggested that India's economy is far, far, far more powerful than Iran's. India's economy is the world's 12th or 13th largest. Period. Compare it to whoever you want, India is an economic powerhouse.

Back to the topic... major cities such as Bombay, Delhi, Chennai have experienced an upsurge in economic development, as well as a boost to standards of living. As foreign investment comes in, the people tend to take the ideals and culture of the foreigners. The impact of foreign TV channels has been significant as well, with MTV and Star mixing Western ideals with the local culture.

However, the sad part is the bad part of the Western world is often adopted, whereas the better things, such as business practices, governance concepts, economic ideas are not. Ultimately, there will be a culture clash, as half of the population will try to stick to its roots, while the other half will shun it.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: Aimster

1 billion people+ / GDP = less per capita.
Iran's economy is growing at a fast rate of 5.5% while India's is growing at 6.5%. Iran too has a very well established education system, but the jobs are not there. Most of the Indian economy is self-employed (60%). What percent of India is actually above the poverty line? In India more than 40% of the population is illiterate.
Iran's GDP 550-600Billion , with 70 million people
India's GDP 2.2Triillion with 1.1Billion+ people.

buddy check your sources

your data is way out of line..... WAY OUT

Why don't you prove me wrong? Nobody here who is from India was able to discredit my information so obviously my information has some facts to it.

What everyone is saying is that India and Iran are completely different. And you comparing them out of the blue didnt sit too well with many.

60% of Indian population is self employed? yes if by that you mean they are farmers

I don't think that is what he meant. Nobody commented on the India and Pakistan comparision. I don't see how that is any different from what I said earlier. Because they speak the same language?

My comparision to India and Iran was for the population and that information was directed at someone else's question regarding Iran and India. I bet if I said Netherlands nobody would have said anything. This turned into a culture war.

I bet if I said Australia nobody would have said anything either

Everyone has suggested that India's economy is far, far, far more powerful than Iran's. India's economy is the world's 12th or 13th largest. Period. Compare it to whoever you want, India is an economic powerhouse.

Back to the topic... major cities such as Bombay, Delhi, Chennai have experienced an upsurge in economic development, as well as a boost to standards of living. As foreign investment comes in, the people tend to take the ideals and culture of the foreigners. The impact of foreign TV channels has been significant as well, with MTV and Star mixing Western ideals with the local culture.

However, the sad part is the bad part of the Western world is often adopted, whereas the better things, such as business practices, governance concepts, economic ideas are not. Ultimately, there will be a culture clash, as half of the population will try to stick to its roots, while the other half will shun it.

You keep missing the point lost one. What if I said Australia? Would you say India > Australia? I was comparing the standard of living and anyone will tell you India is a poor country and almost every nation has a better standard of living than India. India was once very poor now it is just less poor.
Turkey has one of the largest GDPs in Europe and even more so than many of its EU members, yet it will be one of the poorest nations if not the poorest if it enters the EU. You still missing the point?

Nowhere did I say India was not an economic powerhouse. Please show me where. I just said India has a large population that is why it generates more money, but India is one of the poorest nations on Earth. The government might have money, but what when you go on the streets of India? The people are very poor period.

 

[ScottFern]

Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

India might have the world's largest middle class, but it is by far not great in terms of its population.

To get to where India wants to go, we still have 15 years for some parts and a good 30+ years for other parts to even reach 50%. Right now India as a whole stands at less than 20% middle-class.

If it keeps up with a growth of 7% and it stays this way then 15 years some parts of India will see 50% middle class. However, this is if they keep a constant 7% growth until then.

All of this is because of a large young population. They are fighting for what the elders did not see. These new young Indians are forcing change in their system and that is why India has grown. This is not the same India it was in the 1980s.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

here, India's world's 12th largest economy: Link

Next time, know what you are speaking about

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

here, India's world's 12th largest economy: Link

Next time, know what you are speaking about

Nice link,
India is #3.
Stop posting information that is old.

WTF is that link? In terms of GDP India is #3.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

here, India's world's 12th largest economy: Link

Next time, know what you are speaking about

Nice link,
India is #3.
Stop posting information that is old.

WTF is that link? In terms of GDP India is #3.

lol. please back up your stupid claims retard. USA is number 1, Japan 2, and I believe China, Germany, France, UK, all have better economies and higher GDPs than India. So you're a retard for suggesting India is number 3. You should go back to kindergarten, cretin.

here's another link referencing the year 2003: Link

Imbecile

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

here, India's world's 12th largest economy: Link

Next time, know what you are speaking about

Nice link,
India is #3.
Stop posting information that is old.

WTF is that link? In terms of GDP India is #3.

lol. please back up your stupid claims retard. USA is number 1, Japan 2, and I believe China, Germany, France, UK, all have better economies and higher GDPs than India. So you're a retard for suggesting India is number 3. You should go back to kindergarten, cretin.

here's another link referencing the year 2003: Link

Imbecile

I can very well produce links that say 2 trillion. If you believe India generates 400 billion a year with a population of 1 billion then what you are saying is India is the poorest nation on Earth.

400 billion give me a break.

 

[ScottFern]

Can you bitches stop your bickering and stay on topic. I don't recall asking what rank India's economy had, nor is it important to the topic of Indias economic future. I never asked nor wanted to compare India to any other country. Except maybe China.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Can you bitches stop your bickering and stay on topic. I don't recall asking what rank India's economy had, nor is it important to the topic of Indias economic future. I never asked nor wanted to compare India to any other country. Except maybe China.

You do realize you asked us if India is becoming Westernized and everything that has been discussed has nothing to do with your OP.

 

[ScottFern]

Hmmm, let me think......YEAH NO SH*T. It turned into a playground pissing contest.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

here, India's world's 12th largest economy: Link

Next time, know what you are speaking about

Nice link,
India is #3.
Stop posting information that is old.

WTF is that link? In terms of GDP India is #3.

lol. please back up your stupid claims retard. USA is number 1, Japan 2, and I believe China, Germany, France, UK, all have better economies and higher GDPs than India. So you're a retard for suggesting India is number 3. You should go back to kindergarten, cretin.

here's another link referencing the year 2003: Link

Imbecile

I can very well produce links that say 2 trillion. If you believe India generates 400 billion a year with a population of 1 billion then what you are saying is India is the poorest nation on Earth.

400 billion give me a break.

hahaha. eat your own words, back up your claim or STFU and go sit in the corner with a tin foil hat. dumbass.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

here, India's world's 12th largest economy: Link

Next time, know what you are speaking about

Nice link,
India is #3.
Stop posting information that is old.

WTF is that link? In terms of GDP India is #3.

lol. please back up your stupid claims retard. USA is number 1, Japan 2, and I believe China, Germany, France, UK, all have better economies and higher GDPs than India. So you're a retard for suggesting India is number 3. You should go back to kindergarten, cretin.

here's another link referencing the year 2003: Link

Imbecile

I can very well produce links that say 2 trillion. If you believe India generates 400 billion a year with a population of 1 billion then what you are saying is India is the poorest nation on Earth.

400 billion give me a break.

hahaha. eat your own words, back up your claim or STFU and go sit in the corner with a tin foil hat. dumbass.

You mean like this?
http://www.wallstreetview.com/GDPRankings.html

Or like this?
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=100&v=65

 

[ManSnake]

GDP ranking 2004:

GDP Ranking

GDP/capita ranking 2004:

GDP/capita Ranking

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Doesn't anyone listen......STOP QUOTING 10 people before you. Its so annoying to have to scroll down and read something for the 100th time.

Your right, India is very poor, however they have a labor force that is more than 10 times Turkey or Australia's. Globalization is picking up a lot and many corporations are now looking to India for investment as its cheap labor and capital is cheaper to invest then in U.S. India's young labor force along with their cheap labor rates may create a middle class in the next 10 - 15 years. In effect, this would help boost the standard of living and modern day infastructures of society may be extended into regions never before seen. All I am saying is I think this globalization is going to help India as a nation tremendously.

Yes, it will bring along the negative effects of westernization as well.

India already has the worlds biggest middle class.

Oh and Sultan, India's economy is definately not 12th or 13th place in the world, its top 5.

here, India's world's 12th largest economy: Link

Next time, know what you are speaking about

this is in 2000.

 

[Aimster]

Why does the world bank have much different numbers?

http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GDP.pdf

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Why does the world bank have much different numbers?

http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GDP.pdf

thanks for proving my point. the worldbank should have the most accurate data, wouldnt you agree little boy?
lol, wtf is wallstreetreview and indexmundi? from wallstreetreview's on website, WSV has been recognized as a Top Site by: Business 2.0. hahaha. great source of info kid

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster
Why does the world bank have much different numbers?

http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GDP.pdf

thanks for proving my point. the worldbank should have the most accurate data, wouldnt you agree little boy?

I'm requesting that you be banned.

as for that link, I suggest you read why those numbers are so low. There are different ways to measure GDP. Your google.com search copy and paste doesn't cut it.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Aimster
Why does the world bank have much different numbers?

http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GDP.pdf

thanks for proving my point. the worldbank should have the most accurate data, wouldnt you agree little boy?

I'm requesting that you be banned.

as for that link, I suggest you read why those numbers are so low. There are different ways to measure GDP. Your google.com search copy and paste doesn't cut it.

hahaha. little boy is requesting i be banned. hahaha.

you proved my own point with your very link. i didnt even need to google anything. you quoted the numbers from World Bank itself. thats far a better source of information than freaking "Wallstreetreview.com" or "indexmundi.com". hahahah.

 

[Engineer]

So which are the better and more correct numbers, the World Bank or the CIA (Mansnake's link) above (asside from the 2003 vs 2004). It would seem that Mansnake's numbers (even though 2004) are quite high for countries such as India (I doubt that they grew 6 fold in 1 year). I also doubt that Japan has had such a severe setback?

Numbers, numbers, numbers.....