Independence Day: Resurgence Trailer is out

[Genx87]

I think the initial attack was for resources (like a massive amount of relatively clean liquid water). Due to their technical superiority I don't think it normally cost them much to find and/or defeat planets this way. Until us.

This second attack I think is more of an "oh sh*t!" moment where they have lost an entire attack force and their tech is now in the hands of a species likely capable of using it. Lets see if we can wipe them out before they come looking for us, and if we can recoup some natural resources too that would be swell.

I dont think there was any loss of translation. He was shown images of this almost unimaginable large attack force moving from planet to planet and striping them of everything useful. One could easily assume this is an entire civilization moving itself place to place. Or he could have easily seen several such attack groups doing this while realizing it was their entire civilization.

Based on the sheer size of the craft crashing, and the relatively intact nature of it, I wouldn't be surprised if some aliens did get out (and the website linked here says some did escape).

As far as adapting the tech goes, it was the aliens who first adapted their tech to ours. They thought it would be clever to utilize our own satellites since they were there...that created the back door that let us into their source code or what have you. It's not like we immediately knew how to use their stuff either, just how to break it. It takes 20 years for us to have adapted the tech to the point in this new movie.

In the real world we already have lasers and rail guns and plasma tech. Our problem is more of a power issue. If we could utilize just the alien power tech we could create some crazy "sci-fi" weapons. Utilizing any of their other tech to advance these designs could make them seem alien..

This looks like a plausible story line. The first attack was actually a resource collection fleet. Once they went missing, or the survivors sent word they ran into an intelligent species capable of resisting their attack. They send a battle fleet that is many more times powerful.

I just hope we dont defeat them in some cheesy way this time around. Or better, we lose. I would like to see one movie where humanity loses to a superior alien race.

 

[Eug]

Why Will Smith Isn't In Independence Day: Resurgence

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Smith-Isn-t-Independence-Day-Resurgence-72184.html

I was momentarily confused by the "After Earth" comment. I was thinking it was a decent movie, albeit low budget, and more quiet drama than sci-fi... but then I realized that was "Another Earth".

"After Earth" was that one that just about everyone said was incredibly stupid, starring Will and Jaden. However, I never did bother to watch it, based on those reviews.

It seems this is the real reason Will Smith is not in it:

Will Smith has reportedly asked for $50 million to shoot both sequels back-to-back, which Fox declined. Nothing is official yet, since negotiations were halted to focus on the scripts, but it seems Fox is willing to make the sequels without Will Smith.

Note that this was back when the plan was to make a trilogy, hence the "both sequels back-to-back" comment. But I would imagine that even for a single sequel, he's still too expensive, and Emmerich confirmed that.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

It's got Jeff Goldblum. What else could a movie possibly need?

Will definitely see it.

Gary Busey

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Gary Busey

I stand corrected.

 

[kn51]

Don't worry. We still have spam, click bait, and pop ups to defeat them with. Not to mention the Nigerian prince scams. The aliens will have no idea what hit them.

Yep, and after they browse looking for a sale at Amazon, Goldblum will steal their cookies and derive the items they were shopping for and devise a plan.

Combined with a two-pronged attack of Verizon LTE and Comcast usage caps cutting off their communication abilities, they wouldn't stand a chance.

 

[Aharami]

look forward to it

 

[Bacstar]

I just hope we dont defeat them in some cheesy way this time around. Or better, we lose. I would like to see one movie where humanity loses to a superior alien race.

Sucky movie, but humans did lose:

Sky Line

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1564585/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

 

[Eug]

Not quite humans losing, but in District 9, humans are just losers and assholes.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Yep, and after they browse looking for a sale at Amazon, Goldblum will steal their cookies and derive the items they were shopping for and devise a plan.

Combined with a two-pronged attack of Verizon LTE and Comcast usage caps cutting off their communication abilities, they wouldn't stand a chance.

You might be onto something there. They would be using our satillites like before, only this time Goldblum uploads a torrent of the first movie to their ship, then their ISP shuts off their service for copyright infringement and going over their cap, thus thwarting their offensive strategy. They find out just how evil humans can be. Checkmate.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Would love to see the Aliens get hit with Crypto locker. As they are about to press the red button of doom, all the screens show a big ransom popup asking for bitcoin payment. All systems/plans encrypted, systems end up locked up.

This gives the humans enough time to take down the ships as the shields are temporarily down as the Aliens are trying to figure out how to fix the computers or pay this ransom.

In the end, the Heroes end up being Russian/east european hackers.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I was momentarily confused by the "After Earth" comment. I was thinking it was a decent movie, albeit low budget, and more quiet drama than sci-fi... but then I realized that was "Another Earth".

"After Earth" was that one that just about everyone said was incredibly stupid, starring Will and Jaden. However, I never did bother to watch it, based on those reviews.

I really liked that movie.

 

[Jeff7]

Would love to see the Aliens get hit with Crypto locker. As they are about to press the red button of doom, all the screens show a big ransom popup asking for bitcoin payment. All systems/plans encrypted, systems end up locked up.

This gives the humans enough time to take down the ships as the shields are temporarily down as the Aliens are trying to figure out how to fix the computers or pay this ransom.

In the end, the Heroes end up being Russian/east european hackers.

Modify Stuxnet and try that on them. Throttle up their interstellar drive beyond its rated maximum power and hold it there.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Hollywoods chance to do something amazing with human/alien weapon tech. And FAIL. That's the only thing interesting that could have been done and they failed.

 

[Kelvrick]

It seems this is the real reason Will Smith is not in it:



Note that this was back when the plan was to make a trilogy, hence the "both sequels back-to-back" comment. But I would imagine that even for a single sequel, he's still too expensive, and Emmerich confirmed that.

25 mill per movie doesn't seem too bad for an A-list star. Maybe Fox thought he should be cheaper after the bomb that was After Earth and relative failure of Focus.

Or maybe the real reason is he wanted to pull in his son as an actor and they realized even Hollywood magic couldn't make that happen.

 

[rh71]

Wow, that's a pretty impressive website. It's definitely the best one I've seen as it pertains to a movie tie-in. It also explains the status of Col. Hiller (Will Smith's character).

The timeline is hard to use. There's no paging through each date as it just opens them individually and you have to close it to get to the next one - talk about clunky. I can't believe people say they like the site. I guess they're letting it autoplay everything?

 

[Kelvrick]

The timeline is hard to use. There's no paging through each date as it just opens them individually and you have to close it to get to the next one - talk about clunky. I can't believe people say they like the site. I guess they're letting it autoplay everything?

I liked it for the first 2 minutes. Then got annoyed with how clunky the interface was after that.

 

[sdifox]

So they bought McAfee contract?

 

[Kaido]

imo it's un-American of Will Smith to not be in the sequels. We watch Independence Day like every 4th of July! I'm sad that he's not going to be in the second one. He could really use a comeback movie too, especially after shows like After Earth.

However, the trailer does look surprisingly good, even without him, so I've got my fingers crossed they do as good of a job on the second one as they did on the first one. First one was really fun!

 

[sdifox]

imo it's un-American of Will Smith to not be in the sequels. We watch Independence Day like every 4th of July! I'm sad that he's not going to be in the second one. He could really use a comeback movie too, especially after shows like After Earth.

However, the trailer does look surprisingly good, even without him, so I've got my fingers crossed they do as good of a job on the second one as they did on the first one. First one was really fun!

Nothing more American than demanding a high price for your efforts :awe:

 

[Kaido]

Nothing more American than demanding a high price for your efforts :awe:

Touché

 

[Eug]

imo it's un-American of Will Smith to not be in the sequels.

I guess it's a good thing I'm not American then. And neither is the director.

25 mill per movie doesn't seem too bad for an A-list star.

They felt he wasn't worth it, and I'd say I'd have to agree.

 

[ioni]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbduDRH2m2M

That's the same speech from the 1st one, isn't it? I really hope that's just a call back to the original for the trailer and not in the actual new movie.

 

[ImpulsE69]

That's the same speech from the 1st one, isn't it? I really hope that's just a call back to the original for the trailer and not in the actual new movie.

Yes, and the cut out at the end gave me chills. Props to whoever decided to put it in the trailer. There's a different president in this one, but his character is still there.

 

[Genx87]

The timeline is hard to use. There's no paging through each date as it just opens them individually and you have to close it to get to the next one - talk about clunky. I can't believe people say they like the site. I guess they're letting it autoplay everything?

They hired the same development team as Healthcare.gov to explain our history with the aliens. So in reality I question the ability of us to utilize alien technology within 2 decades. We cant even master our own technology in the F35 that has been going on for nearly as long.

 

[lupi]

New Trailer.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJgT89hEME