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"Incident" in London, Van Hits Pedestrians at London Bridge

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I do agree it impacts a person more when something tragic happens closer to home (your own mortality creeps up on ya). I think the point is however that if you're going to express outrage and sympathy (empathy) for the people of one place far away that picking and choosing is pretty gross and weird. Of course I can't speak for the person but that's how I interpreted it.

Well that's fair enough, except it depends what you mean by 'far away'. This forum is socially and linguistically a lot closer to London than it is to Kabul. Ergo, it's not very shocking that this event gets more attention here. It's just human nature.
And, not coincidentally, for some of us here this attack occurred geographically very close by (i.e. a short walk away - another weekend I might have been there).

Be nice if the OP would explain what point they were trying to make - why they thought there was any logic in juxtaposing two different tragedies.

If the point was that our various humanitarian liberal interventions in the region have only made things worse, and that therefore there's some sort of connection between them, then I don't entirely disagree. It's one reason why I couldn't feel much enthusiasm for 'uberhawk' Hilary, even in the face of Trumpaggedon.
 
Well that's fair enough, except it depends what you mean by 'far away'. This forum is socially and linguistically a lot closer to London than it is to Kabul. Ergo, it's not very shocking that this event gets more attention here. It's just human nature.
And, not coincidentally, for some of us here this attack occurred geographically very close by (i.e. a short walk away - another weekend I might have been there).

Be nice if the OP would explain what point they were trying to make - why they thought there was any logic in juxtaposing two different tragedies.

If the point was that our various humanitarian liberal interventions in the region have only made things worse, and that therefore there's some sort of connection between them, then I don't entirely disagree. It's one reason why I couldn't feel much enthusiasm for 'uberhawk' Hilary, even in the face of Trumpaggedon.

I was certainly more enthusiastic about her because of the Trumpfiasco.

I think most people still acknowledge far away as a term describing personal proximity.

You may have to accept that the OP didn't know why he posted what he posted except to state that loss of life due to terror attacks is equally horrific but not necessarily equally acknowledged. I don't think he was prepared to delve in to it any further/deeper than that. It's sad when people die because of hate.
 
Be nice if the OP would explain what point they were trying to make - why they thought there was any logic in juxtaposing two different tragedies.
Should make it clear it wasn't the OP. That was one of the usual apologists.

There's no sane point to bringing up Kabul- it's the usual attempt to downplay a terrorist event perpetrated by Muslims, with straw-grasping desperation: "Oh yeah!!!! You care about THIS!!!?? But why don't you care about... THIS over here!!!?? AHAH!! See!!? I've successfully covered for Muslim terror once again by proving you who notice it are hypocrites! AND of course... RACISTS!!!"

In other words, it's a 'point' NO SANE individual would recognize, because it's completely insane. There's no logical reason or motivation for it either. It's kneejerk, apologist desperation for some insane warped reason. "How DARE anyone notice that Muslims extremists committed violence again! Quick, let me desperately throw up a smoke screen..."
 
It's pretty easy to see that ISIS types want a holy war and their western counterparts are only too eager to oblige their fellow conservatives.
 
Odd, they have the names of all three but only released the names of 2.

It usually means that the name has given them leads (maybe lots), who they want to capture/arrest, BEFORE they have time to flee/hide/disappear to Pakistan etc, or elsewhere.

I can see they kept to their word this time, of not telling the US (Trump) about who they are and/or releasing the photographs yet. To give the enquiries time to work.
 
It usually means that the name has given them leads (maybe lots), who they want to capture/arrest, BEFORE they have time to flee/hide/disappear to Pakistan etc, or elsewhere.

I can see they kept to their word this time, of not telling the US (Trump) about who they are and/or releasing the photographs yet. To give the enquiries time to work.

I assure you, the first thing they did was contact American, French, and German security services for whatever data was available.
 
I assure you, the first thing they did was contact American, French, and German security services for whatever data was available.

It's possible, I don't know.
How they handled the Americans, given the big leak of photograph(s), last time. I don't know.

I would not be surprised if America has been partially/fully left out of the loop this time. Until later.
 
Pathetic that even a troll like you thinks Trumps tweets are okay even though he misinterpreted the London Mayor's message. Or you're just really stupid.
Why 'either/or'?
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Uhhhhh......no. Good try on an attempt to reframe WWII, though, no matter how clumsy an attempt it may be.

Oh excuse me. I didn't know you invited the Nazi party over for tea and biscuits in order to assimilate them into your society. I just have one question. How did Josef Mengele like his tea? Milk? Sugar? Lemon? The blood of Jews?
 
Since most of us level headed people agree that moderate Muslims need to speak out, I felt this was relevant

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ram-shazad-butt-rachid-redouane-a7774291.html

That is definitely the right direction. Moderate Muslims are without a doubt the most important asset in the fight against terrorists and they are the best bet at prevention instead of reaction. The best quote in the article is this:

“We have to find these people and hand them in.”

The Muslim community must actively work with the government and authorities to help root out these extremists and potential extremists before they can act against innocent people. Remove the elements that are not adapting to civilized society or actively trying to sabotage efforts of integration.
 
Let's hope they coalesce into a viable doctrine of moderate Islam. Because that's what's needed.

We can help by recognizing this is possible. Instead of pretending like 1.7billion religious are all out to get us.

It's us and them, not us by ourselves, or them by themselves.
 
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