In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage

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fskimospy

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Not puzzling at all that someone like Trump would come along and get as far as he did, the middle class has been bullshitted by both sides for the last 30-40 years with voodoo economics, trickle down bullshit, free trade bullshit, political correctness bullshit, unjust, unneeded wars,

wage stagnation while bankers and wallstreet get to keep profits and write off losses on taxpayers backs, big corporations getting to avoid taxes with elaborate loopholes, the goto college to get a good job propaganda but end up in insurmountable debt, and even if you do get that job don't be surprised if some h1b replaces you because you make too much now,

and finally the "hope & change" that turned into "you didn't build it" and "no you can't keep your doctor or health plan after all".

Trump is the fuck you vote, first to the republicans then to corporate democrats like Hillary,

But what is truly sad is how the elite establishment on both side still doesn't get it and blames the "low information little people" just like many poorly run companies blame the line worker while management is patting themselves on the back while giving themselves bonuses as they lay people off, cut wages and benefits.

Trump is not the cause but the effect of poor leadership, lies, and broken promises by the establishment politicians that use the little guy for the vote but do the bidding of the banks, corporations, and their wealthy benefactors that promise them lifetime riches once they are out of office.

How is Trump doing anything but promising rich people more money?
 

1prophet

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How is Trump doing anything but promising rich people more money?

A person comfortable in their elite Ivory tower and well to do life can sit back and see Trump for what he is but still fail to understand why the angry little guy is voting for him even though they are spiting themselves,

because you among other intelligent elites in high places never seem to understand with all your so called wisdom, fancy degrees, superior intellect, and all the right answers created that angry little guy.
 

BxgJ

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A person comfortable in their elite Ivory tower and well to do life can sit back and see Trump for what he is but still fail to understand why the angry little guy is voting for him even though they are spiting themselves,

because you among other intelligent elites in high places never seem to understand with all your so called wisdom, fancy degrees, superior intellect, and all the right answers created that angry little guy.

Do you think it's only those you call 'intelligent elites' who see this?
 

fskimospy

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A person comfortable in their elite Ivory tower and well to do life can sit back and see Trump for what he is but still fail to understand why the angry little guy is voting for him even though they are spiting themselves,

because you among other intelligent elites in high places never seem to understand with all your so called wisdom, fancy degrees, superior intellect, and all the right answers created that angry little guy.

Trump's supporters average higher incomes than Clinton or Sanders supporters. They aren't the little guys, they are angry white middle to upper middle class guys who generally have comfortable lives.
 

SP33Demon

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Which makes it abundantly clear how unqualified he is for the position and its responsibilities.
Yes, like our friend obummer with 1 year experience. Do you notice a trend? People aren't voting for career politicians anymore. Doesn't bode well for hillary.
 

SP33Demon

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Hilarious, and completely bitch made.
Bitch made, is that some kind of urban slang? Back to the liberal ghetto where you belong while I'm squatting in the best gyms money can buy with my coach. Couch potatoes are the best - tough talk when they can't even do a pullup. Post a video of doing a pullup and we'll take you more seriously.
 
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Bitch made, is that some kind of urban slang? Back to the liberal ghetto where you belong while I'm squatting in the best gyms money can buy with my coach. Couch potatoes are the best - tough talk when they can't even do a pullup. Post a video of doing a pullup and we'll take you more seriously.

man up and take that bet speedy, the only thing you have going for you are shriveled nuts and hgh coursing through your bloodstream.

post a video of you helping someone who can't help themselves and you'll be considered partially human.
 

SP33Demon

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man up and take that bet speedy, the only thing you have going for you are shriveled nuts and hgh coursing through your bloodstream.

post a video of you helping someone who can't help themselves and you'll be considered partially human.
I'm all natural and compete in a drug tested Fed. If I was on the juice I'd be in the top 1% of lifters in my region and possibly country since I'm already sporting around a 390 Wilks (510 squat, 320 bench, 510 deadlift in the 205lb weight class).
 
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I'm all natural and compete in a drug tested Fed. If I was on the juice I'd be in the top 1% of lifters in my region and possibly country since I'm already sporting around a 390 Wilks (510 squat, 320 bench, 510 deadlift in the 205lb weight class).

Yea, Lance Armstrong said that too.:colbert:
 

SP33Demon

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Yea, Lance Armstrong said that too.:colbert:
lb for lb the only person who competes in drug tested Feds (like USAPL) and is stronger on AT is Deeko (400~ Wilks). And yeah, of course I would love to be on prescription hgh because injuries happen and hgh allegedly solidifies the joints/fascia/tendons/discs. But there's no way my doctor could justify it, so I just have to have perfect form in all lifts. I even modified my deadlifting and bench press form last month as an injury precaution. A saying from a coach I respect and follow on FB/IG: "Durability is more important than ability" and "Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard".
 

dank69

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lb for lb the only person who competes in drug tested Feds (like USAPL) and is stronger on AT is Deeko (400~ Wilks). And yeah, of course I would love to be on prescription hgh because injuries happen and hgh allegedly solidifies the joints/fascia/tendons/discs. But there's no way my doctor could justify it, so I just have to have perfect form in all lifts. I even modified my deadlifting and bench press form last month as an injury precaution. A saying from a coach I respect and follow on FB/IG: "Durability is more important than ability" and "Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard".
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norseamd

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A person comfortable in their elite Ivory tower and well to do life can sit back and see Trump for what he is but still fail to understand why the angry little guy is voting for him even though they are spiting themselves,

because you among other intelligent elites in high places never seem to understand with all your so called wisdom, fancy degrees, superior intellect, and all the right answers created that angry little guy.

Are are bringing up a very good point there, but can you elaborate more about what you have to say?
 

norseamd

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"Durability is more important than ability"

Yes.

"Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"

Taken at face value as a general adage, no it doesnt. In certain circumstances or certain applications it might be right. But 10000 hours are not going to assure you of rising to the top of the field. I realize that Americans generally have proselytized this rule over the last few centuries, as their need to enact this "socialist/communist" sociological norm to alleviate their mediocrity and competency.

Quite simply, no amount of training or hard work is ever going to let you do anything but prove your inadequacy, especially after you are castrated with one swipe of his paw, when you start scrapping with a 550 lb lion that does nothing but sleep on his ass for 20 hours a day.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/g...rs-may-gain-you-little-if-you-have-no-talent/
 

cyclohexane

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Bitch made, is that some kind of urban slang? Back to the liberal ghetto where you belong while I'm squatting in the best gyms money can buy with my coach. Couch potatoes are the best - tough talk when they can't even do a pullup. Post a video of doing a pullup and we'll take you more seriously.

Hilarious, you're a complete trump bitch. He can sleep with your wife, then lie to your face about it, and you be okay with it. pathetic.

For what it's worth: I do pull-ups like you do steroids. 4 sets of 20 usually. Don't have a gym coach, but I'm still in better shape that you are.
 

piasabird

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I could get behind raising the minimum wage. Corporations dont want to pay taxes so make them pay higher wages.

You could do the same thing by making corporations have fewer loop holes and then just expand EIC and pay people a bonus for working over 6 months out of the year at the same job. We might also design an EIC for only married couples who are struggling to encourage marriage and promote good ethical societal changes.

You could also make corporations and the those that max out at social security limits just keep paying or pay at a higher rate based on income levels.

You could also have a low limit for people to receive the interest credit on home loans.
 
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SNC

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lb for lb the only person who competes in drug tested Feds (like USAPL) and is stronger on AT is Deeko (400~ Wilks). And yeah, of course I would love to be on prescription hgh because injuries happen and hgh allegedly solidifies the joints/fascia/tendons/discs. But there's no way my doctor could justify it, so I just have to have perfect form in all lifts. I even modified my deadlifting and bench press form last month as an injury precaution. A saying from a coach I respect and follow on FB/IG: "Durability is more important than ability" and "Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard".

WOW a real dick swinging contest in a political sub-forum of a tech site! FYI there are stronger people that do not compete, so posting you wilks number is as meaningful as me posting that I moved over 53,000 pounds in under an hour working chest and back yesterday. It has nothing to do with my political leanings, or my history of helping others. I'm curious as to why you felt it important to use a comment about your strength to counter a political point.

I do find it funny that Trump supporters are perfectly OK with him lying to them all the while wagging their finger at Hillary for doing the exact same thing and singing the praises of the anti-establishment candidate even while they reason that he is changing his position because he is smart politically. (all that in one breath!) Trump supporters couldn't look any more stupid if they tried.
 

DrPizza

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I'm all natural and compete in a drug tested Fed. If I was on the juice I'd be in the top 1% of lifters in my region and possibly country since I'm already sporting around a 390 Wilks (510 squat, 320 bench, 510 deadlift in the 205lb weight class).

Can we trade you in and get Alky back?