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HamburgerBoy

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A candidate moving to the center after securing the nomination. Nothing to see here.

Hillary will veer to the right prior to the general election.

I don't think she can. She wants all those Sanders voters, and I think if she starts backing off on all her promises in the debates with him, they're going to be upset with her.
 

fskimospy

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Hey, take it however, but the guy isn't a career politician. I would expect his positions to evolve on some things. He's learning how to run for president. On the job training....the apprentice.

It's interesting to see how people rationalize being lied to.
 
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It's interesting to see how people rationalize being lied to.

See, that's what is so fucking puzzling about these drumpf supporters, they loathe hillary because they claim she lies, and yet when drumpf is caught in a lie, like video proof of a lie, they brush it off as part of his persona o_O
In fact, a drumpf supporter on facebook literally said he didn't care that drumpf lied about something. Seriously, o_O
 

cyclohexane

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See, that's what is so fucking puzzling about these drumpf supporters, they loathe hillary because they claim she lies, and yet when drumpf is caught in a lie, like video proof of a lie, they brush it off as part of his persona o_O
In fact, a drumpf supporter on facebook literally said he didn't care that drumpf lied about something. Seriously, o_O

This. sp33demon claims to be a "man" when in reality guys like him are like abused girlfriends. Always putting up with Trump's lies. Rationalizing and making excuses when faced with bad behavior, and enabling their own humiliation.

Hilarious, and completely bitch made.
 

Zorkorist

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This. sp33demon claims to be a "man" when in reality guys like him are like abused girlfriends. Always putting up with Trump's lies. Rationalizing and making excuses when faced with bad behavior, and enabling their own humiliation.

Hilarious, and completely bitch made.

LOL, ya'll are the ones attacking.

-John
 
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lol, no.

Our greatest President, Ronald Reagan, was an actor.

-John

push the bottle away
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waggy

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LOL i find it funny the amount of hypocrites that come out in these threads. The bad thing is they don't know they are it.


Nothing new in this with trump. Just a politician being a politician.
 

compuwiz1

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LOL i find it funny the amount of hypocrites that come out in these threads. The bad thing is they don't know they are it.


Nothing new in this with trump. Just a politician being a politician.

But, as I've said, he's a n00b, so he's in a learning curve.
 

waggy

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But, as I've said, he's a n00b, so he's in a learning curve.

I don't think he is a noob. I think he played it pretty damn good so far. He won the nomination by hitting the groups he knew would vote for him. He even did it without spending much. He also knows that he won't win against hillary with what got him the nomination. He knows he has to change his tune slightly or else. The same will (and has) happened to Hillary.

They know if they go in the center they will piss off some but not enough that they will switch sides. God no! vote for the other party? tsk.
 

Zorkorist

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I don't think he is a noob. I think he played it pretty damn good so far. He won the nomination by hitting the groups he knew would vote for him. He even did it without spending much. He also knows that he won't win against hillary with what got him the nomination. He knows he has to change his tune slightly or else. The same will (and has) happened to Hillary.

They know if they go in the center they will piss off some but not enough that they will switch sides. God no! vote for the other party? tsk.
Hillary is beyond party, and pretty much the most slime anyone can tolerate.

At the end of the day, it will be a person that tries hard, against slime.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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I told the liberals here early, that I would never, ever, vote for another Bush, and in return they should never, ever, vote for another Clinton.

-John
 
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Hillary is beyond party, and pretty much the most slime anyone can tolerate.

At the end of the day, it will be a person that tries hard, against slime.

-John

You're so right, saint drumpf is such a well mannered, respectful candidate who never lies, insinuates issues to provoke his cattle, er, I mean supporters. Not sure if he should be a saint or a prince, he's just a swell guy.
 

Zorkorist

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You're so right, saint drumpf is such a well mannered, respectful candidate who never lies, insinuates issues to provoke his cattle, er, I mean supporters. Not sure if he should be a saint or a prince, he's just a swell guy.
Like Hillary?

She's such a swell girl?!

-John
 

Zorkorist

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You are free to be a socialist, communist.

But that is not how our nation evolved.

Freedom, Individualism, is what made America great.

-John
 

lopri

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Surely a big part of that freedom includes the freedom of speech and thought, such as advocating the virtues of socialism and communism? I agree that is what makes America great.
 

Zorkorist

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Freedom to be stupid, or democracy is wrong.

We have a representative Government, that is supposed to be smarter people than the unwashed masses.

-John
 

compuwiz1

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Surely a big part of that freedom includes the freedom of speech and thought, such as advocating the virtues of socialism and communism? I agree that is what makes America great.

Advocate all you want. Implement communism and the tools come out. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has caches of 'tools' hidden away for such a time. I don't send in warranty registrations for my tools either, if you know what I mean. ;)
 

ivwshane

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Advocate all you want. Implement communism and the tools come out. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has caches of 'tools' hidden away for such a time. I don't send in warranty registrations for my tools either, if you know what I mean. ;)

Yeah we know what you mean, you would kill Americans because they have different opinions than you. You should look in the mirror and kill that American, if you know what I mean;)
 

norseamd

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Advocate all you want. Implement communism and the tools come out. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has caches of 'tools' hidden away for such a time. I don't send in warranty registrations for my tools either, if you know what I mean.

You really dont want to try to start a fight you cant nor are competent enough to win.
 

1prophet

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See, that's what is so fucking puzzling about these drumpf supporters, they loathe hillary because they claim she lies, and yet when drumpf is caught in a lie, like video proof of a lie, they brush it off as part of his persona o_O
In fact, a drumpf supporter on facebook literally said he didn't care that drumpf lied about something. Seriously, o_O


Not puzzling at all that someone like Trump would come along and get as far as he did, the middle class has been bullshitted by both sides for the last 30-40 years with voodoo economics, trickle down bullshit, free trade bullshit, political correctness bullshit, unjust, unneeded wars,

wage stagnation while bankers and wallstreet get to keep profits and write off losses on taxpayers backs, big corporations getting to avoid taxes with elaborate loopholes, the goto college to get a good job propaganda but end up in insurmountable debt, and even if you do get that job don't be surprised if some h1b replaces you because you make too much now,

and finally the "hope & change" that turned into "you didn't build it" and "no you can't keep your doctor or health plan after all".

Trump is the fuck you vote, first to the republicans then to corporate democrats like Hillary,

But what is truly sad is how the elite establishment on both side still doesn't get it and blames the "low information little people" just like many poorly run companies blame the line worker while management is patting themselves on the back while giving themselves bonuses as they lay people off, cut wages and benefits.

Trump is not the cause but the effect of poor leadership, lies, and broken promises by the establishment politicians that use the little guy for the vote but do the bidding of the banks, corporations, and their wealthy benefactors that promise them lifetime riches once they are out of office.