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sportage

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I say term limits for those in congress. Mitch McConnell has more power than any president. And Chuck Grassley has pocketed sooooo much money from doing the bidding of the banks it makes ones head spin. We must have term limits so that Mitch McConnell can not happen. And I include Nancy Pelosi in that too, they all need to be term limited to limit the damage that they can do.
 
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The lesson here is: if you're president, just do whatever the fuck you want, because there is no real mechanism for accountability.
 
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sportage

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Well, we know one thing, Donald Trump is doing his happy dance and TRUMP WILL be back. Mitch McConnell with 43 republicans ensured that,
 

compuwiz1

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Well, we know one thing, Donald Trump is doing his happy dance and TRUMP WILL be back. Mitch McConnell with 43 republicans ensured that,


Let's hope Trump isn't back, but with Biden ruling by executive fiat, worse than Obama, well...this is how presidents like Trump become possible. Biden is gonna make this so easy. Anyone can sign executive orders. Better get Biden up to being President or get him out of there and turn it over to Harris.
 

zzyzxroad

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An impeachment trial without calling people like Rudy, Powel and their lackeys up to testify was a huge waste of time. They were able to blatantly lie in public sham hearings because they were not under oath. They had a chance to call people like Mellissa Carone, put her under other and have her admit she was nothing but a temp worker hired to clean glass on the voting machines. After exposing those lackeys as frauds, pull Rudy and Powel up to explain why they helped spread those lies. Then pull in all the politicians Trump likely pressured to overturn the election and see what they had to say. Outcome would probably be the same but at least Trump's BS would be on full display.
 

sportage

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I would say, time for Democrats to storm the capitol hunting for republicans, but I have a better idea. First, for Democrats to expand the US Supreme Court to 12 or 16, THEN... shove thru this next stimulus using only Democrats and the reconciliation process. Expanding the high court then enacting reconciliation would be as violent as rushing the capitol minus the bloodshed. Democrats, Joe Biden, GET TO WORK!!!! No more namby pamby BS. Republicans have set the stage, and now no holes barred.
 
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zzyzxroad

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Let's hope Trump isn't back, but with Biden ruling by executive fiat, worse than Obama, well...this is how presidents like Trump become possible. Biden is gonna make this so easy. Anyone can sign executive orders. Better get Biden up to being President or get him out of there and turn it over to Harris.

Your post is idiotic. Trump happened because misinformed imbeciles voted for him.
 

MrSquished

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Let's hope Trump isn't back, but with Biden ruling by executive fiat, worse than Obama, well...this is how presidents like Trump become possible. Biden is gonna make this so easy. Anyone can sign executive orders. Better get Biden up to being President or get him out of there and turn it over to Harris.

Trump became possible because Obama used executive orders because Mitch blocked everything? What are you smoking? Trump didn't run on Obama's executive orders, he ran on xenophobia, ultra-nationalism and relied on the ignorance of the GOP base. That's how he won the primaries and then barely won the presidency. You are terrible at political analysis.
 

IronWing

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Let's hope Trump isn't back, but with Biden ruling by executive fiat, worse than Obama, well...this is how presidents like Trump become possible. Biden is gonna make this so easy. Anyone can sign executive orders. Better get Biden up to being President or get him out of there and turn it over to Harris.
Fuck off, traitor.
 

ivwshane

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Let's hope Trump isn't back, but with Biden ruling by executive fiat, worse than Obama, well...this is how presidents like Trump become possible. Biden is gonna make this so easy. Anyone can sign executive orders. Better get Biden up to being President or get him out of there and turn it over to Harris.

Shut the fuck up traitor. When you get your balls back from melania’s purse you can show us where at any time during your cult leaders presidency you admonished trump for his use of executive orders.
 
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I would say, time for Democrats to storm the capitol hunting for republicans, but I have a better idea. First, for Democrats to expand the US Supreme Court to 12 or 16, THEN... shove thru this next stimulus using only Democrats and the reconciliation process. Expanding the high court then enacting reconciliation would be as violent as rushing the capitol minus the bloodshed. Democrats, Joe Biden, GET TO WORK!!!! No more namby pamby BS. Republicans have set the stage, and now no holes barred.
Short term thinking, that will end up being a long term disaster. Every time the presidency changes sides the court will expand. So every four or eight years we end up undoing what the last administration did. No continuity, no plan, just win and get what we want right now without regard to what happens next year.

Ruling by emotion doesn't work. Addressing crazy with more crazy isn't the answer. We need sanity, we need calm, we need to think about how we govern, not about how we get even.
 
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Let's hope Trump isn't back, but with Biden ruling by executive fiat, worse than Obama, well...this is how presidents like Trump become possible. Biden is gonna make this so easy. Anyone can sign executive orders. Better get Biden up to being President or get him out of there and turn it over to Harris.
Don’t worry someone will come change your shit filled pants eventually you broken old ass mother fucker.
 

pmv

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Let's hope Trump isn't back, but with Biden ruling by executive fiat, worse than Obama, well...this is how presidents like Trump become possible. Biden is gonna make this so easy. Anyone can sign executive orders. Better get Biden up to being President or get him out of there and turn it over to Harris.

Except that the reason Biden is able to do so much via executive orders is because much of what he's been doing is simply undoing Trump's executive orders. What's passed by 'fiat' can be undone by 'fiat'. As much as I an unimpressed by the US system of government, as far as I can see, that one's a somewhat self-limiting "problem".
 
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So has anyone heard Schumer or Raskin explain on the record why, after a vote to allow witnesses passed 55-45 and they were ready to depose their first witness... they changed their minds? Did Team Biden ask them to wrap it up? Did McConnell make promises? Ore were they all just clamoring for vacation??
 

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Let's hope Trump isn't back, but with Biden ruling by executive fiat, worse than Obama, well...this is how presidents like Trump become possible. Biden is gonna make this so easy. Anyone can sign executive orders. Better get Biden up to being President or get him out of there and turn it over to Harris.

Where was this faux criticism when trump EO the hell out of everything??

How about using some facts and show Obama's EO# for 8 years vs trump for 4 years vs Biden for less than a month?? Are you up to that minimal effort?

I know this will be ignored or hand waived away. Most likely is no response as usual.

Short term thinking, that will end up being a long term disaster. Every time the presidency changes sides the court will expand. So every four or eight years we end up undoing what the last administration did. No continuity, no plan, just win and get what we want right now without regard to what happens next year.

Ruling by emotion doesn't work. Addressing crazy with more crazy isn't the answer. We need sanity, we need calm, we need to think about how we govern, not about how we get even.

Where was this faux concern when all trump did by EO was reverse what he could of the previous administration??

Notice the Italics on no continuity. I will infer you mean traditional norms, that were thrown into the toilet after wiping his ass with them.

Same as above applies.

And he'll get away with it. As I said before, it was a dog and pony show with no hope of anything worth while coming out of it.

You do not realize/understand the importance of a historical record? Of proceedings to establish what was done ON RECORD so that revisionist people cannot redact it from the historical record?

Do you have any beliefs that history is an important aspect to civilization and societies at large?

I fully expect no reply at all, but I will say that I would appreciate an attempt at it.

I took the time to reply to your posts, without name calling or being rude. How about you do the same??

Make an attempt.

I bolded and underlined the portions of your posts I am questioning or would like your thoughts on.
 

esquared

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So has anyone heard Schumer or Raskin explain on the record why, after a vote to allow witnesses passed 55-45 and they were ready to depose their first witness... they changed their minds? Did Team Biden ask them to wrap it up? Did McConnell make promises? Ore were they all just clamoring for vacation??
I think that the main reason was to get Congresswoman Jaime Herrera Buetler's words in the historical record. Her words refute the defenses statement that the orange menace didn't know that pence was in trouble during the insurrection. Remember that they claimed Sen tuberville's words about the phone call from the orange menace was hearsay.

Lead manager Raskin, speaking after the verdict did say that calling more witnesses would not have changed any minds.
 
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That's not going to happen.
There was never enough evidence to convict Trump of insurrection, the outcome was a forgone conclusion. This was all theater, a show put on to convince half the nation that the dems were taking decisive action against the Trump. This is the very definition of a dog and pony show.

:rolleyes: Political theater ... Like all those Benghazi hearings - right?. I'm sure the families of the deceased would just love for you to call the trial of the ringleader responsible for inciting a riot based on "the big lie" that led to the death of their loved ones a "dog and pony show". Don't worry though because the movie that played in that "theater" was well worth the admission and money well spent. The movie that played out in that theater was the biggest political horror movie of our lifetimes. We got to see the Oscar nominating performance of 43 GOP cowards declare support of a criminal who incited a riot, committing impeachable offences and then voted for acquittal while setting a precedent that the Donald Trumps of the world will never be held truly accountable. That movie will be played over and over in the theater of public opinion for years and years to come. The longest running horror movie in history played for for the sake of history and precedent. That theater will never go out of business. The long running movie that the Trumps and future Trumps can fuck up so badly and still evade consequences. The movie conspiracy named "Stop the Steal", Trump was the leader. He had the leading role in this film. The true star. The sequel to this horror film will be callled - "Next time, we need to try even harder to murder our politicians doing their constitutional duty of peaceful transition of power. Because now ... there is nothing to stop us from doing this.”
 
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