Impeachment coming

[skyking]

He insisted on making the impeachment trial another platform to plead his election fraud case. The lawyers wanted to stay on topic of the constitutionality of impeaching a former president, but he was having none of that.

 

[dawp]

He insisted on making the impeachment trial another platform to plead his election fraud case. The lawyers wanted to stay on topic of the constitutionality of impeaching a former president, but he was having none of that.

the GOP would be a bunch of morons if they don't bar him from ever running again

 

[skyking]

they cannot bar him. He has too many death cult groupies that were taken from their ranks. Besides, they have grown accustomed to gobbling his little mushroom shaped knob.
"it's not so bad" says Lindsey Graham.

 

[Shamrock]

Ha ha ha ha.
So the other three left.

Cheap bastard probably didn't want to pay a retainer or else wanted to pay them with
hotel vouchers or expired trump steaks.

Effing hilarious.

All 5 are gone now. Currently Oompla Loompa has to no legal representation.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

... (17) Republican defectors that vote to impeach. If 17 Republican senators decide to stay home from the impeachment vote, ...

Senators do not vote to Impeach.

The lawyers wanted to stay on topic of the constitutionality of impeaching a former president, ...

He was not a former President when he was Impeached.

 

[cytg111]

Rudy have a brother or cousin?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Is Dewey, Screwum & Howe available?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Who dumped who?

Trump parts ways with five lawyers handling impeachment defense - The Boston Globe

Former president Donald Trump has abruptly parted ways with five lawyers handling his impeachment defense, just over a week before the Senate trial is set to begin, people familiar with the situation said Saturday.

www.bostonglobe.com

 

[VRAMdemon]

He should be assigned a public attorney if no one is willing to represent him…and that public attorney should dedicate the same amount of time and money to his case as that attorney dedicates to all the other cases in that attorney’s caseload.

It's being reported that Trump wanted his team to keep arguing that there was election fraud .... lol ,"I won by a lot!"

His lawyers wanted to argue a legitimate issue, if not necessarily very strong one. They may have a losing case, but it’s not a batshit case. Trump wanted them to argue nonsense with nothing. He’s insisting they set themselves to look stupid in a show trial. It seems they just aren’t dumb enough to be willing to shit themselves on the Senate floor at his command.

But I’m thrilled to discover he’s going to make “Massive election fraud, I really won by a lot!”, the cornerstone of his defense…for no other reason than it should keep him banned from social media for forever. Since he won’t be able to hire a lawyer any more competent than Giuliani to argue this, the entertainment value of the trial will also be considerable.

The majority of Republicans have already shown that they are willing to acquit Trump on constitutional grounds, however weak. But Trump arguing this appears to be a tacit admission that his intent was to incite insurrection, because it was justified by election fraud. This will at least place the Republicans on record for acquitting Trump on the basis of pure nonsense.

He’s got the art of “living the lie” nailed down in a way that makes crackheads jealous. Of course, as any crackhead who has ever gotten into legal trouble for “just standing on the corner, minding my own business” can tell you, that shit don’t work too good on judges.

Again, this is just Trump shooting himself in the dick. It looks like the Republicans were trying to give themselves, and him, an out here by making the argument that it’s Constitutionally impermissible to have this trial on a former president. They would acquit him and escape making a hard decision. Cowardly, but effective. He is insisting on full exoneration though, and arguing that not only was he not responsible for the violence on 1/6, but since he wants to argue that the election was stolen, that such violence was actually justified. Hence removing the GOP, and his, cowardly way out.

 

[K1052]

Assuming Trump wants to argue the insurrection was justified due to massive fraud it seems pretty possible that he wants his potential lawyers to expose themselves to defamation claims that could be brought by Dominion which is at the center of his conspiracy theory. Maybe real lawyers don't want to pull their pants down and bend over for a very angry, likely ruined company that has good cases against the previous cadre who tried this.

 

[interchange]

He should be assigned a public attorney if no one is willing to represent him…and that public attorney should dedicate the same amount of time and money to his case as that attorney dedicates to all the other cases in that attorney’s caseload.

It's being reported that Trump wanted his team to keep arguing that there was election fraud .... lol ,"I won by a lot!"

His lawyers wanted to argue a legitimate issue, if not necessarily very strong one. They may have a losing case, but it’s not a batshit case. Trump wanted them to argue nonsense with nothing. He’s insisting they set themselves to look stupid in a show trial. It seems they just aren’t dumb enough to be willing to shit themselves on the Senate floor at his command.

But I’m thrilled to discover he’s going to make “Massive election fraud, I really won by a lot!”, the cornerstone of his defense…for no other reason than it should keep him banned from social media for forever. Since he won’t be able to hire a lawyer any more competent than Giuliani to argue this, the entertainment value of the trial will also be considerable.

The majority of Republicans have already shown that they are willing to acquit Trump on constitutional grounds, however weak. But Trump arguing this appears to be a tacit admission that his intent was to incite insurrection, because it was justified by election fraud. This will at least place the Republicans on record for acquitting Trump on the basis of pure nonsense.

He’s got the art of “living the lie” nailed down in a way that makes crackheads jealous. Of course, as any crackhead who has ever gotten into legal trouble for “just standing on the corner, minding my own business” can tell you, that shit don’t work too good on judges.

Again, this is just Trump shooting himself in the dick. It looks like the Republicans were trying to give themselves, and him, an out here by making the argument that it’s Constitutionally impermissible to have this trial on a former president. They would acquit him and escape making a hard decision. Cowardly, but effective. He is insisting on full exoneration though, and arguing that not only was he not responsible for the violence on 1/6, but since he wants to argue that the election was stolen, that such violence was actually justified. Hence removing the GOP, and his, cowardly way out.

It's impeachment, not a court of law. But it does make me wonder if an official without means to afford representation were impeached, what would happen?

 

[fskimospy]

He should be assigned a public attorney if no one is willing to represent him…and that public attorney should dedicate the same amount of time and money to his case as that attorney dedicates to all the other cases in that attorney’s caseload.

It's being reported that Trump wanted his team to keep arguing that there was election fraud .... lol ,"I won by a lot!"

His lawyers wanted to argue a legitimate issue, if not necessarily very strong one. They may have a losing case, but it’s not a batshit case. Trump wanted them to argue nonsense with nothing. He’s insisting they set themselves to look stupid in a show trial. It seems they just aren’t dumb enough to be willing to shit themselves on the Senate floor at his command.

But I’m thrilled to discover he’s going to make “Massive election fraud, I really won by a lot!”, the cornerstone of his defense…for no other reason than it should keep him banned from social media for forever. Since he won’t be able to hire a lawyer any more competent than Giuliani to argue this, the entertainment value of the trial will also be considerable.

The majority of Republicans have already shown that they are willing to acquit Trump on constitutional grounds, however weak. But Trump arguing this appears to be a tacit admission that his intent was to incite insurrection, because it was justified by election fraud. This will at least place the Republicans on record for acquitting Trump on the basis of pure nonsense.

He’s got the art of “living the lie” nailed down in a way that makes crackheads jealous. Of course, as any crackhead who has ever gotten into legal trouble for “just standing on the corner, minding my own business” can tell you, that shit don’t work too good on judges.

Again, this is just Trump shooting himself in the dick. It looks like the Republicans were trying to give themselves, and him, an out here by making the argument that it’s Constitutionally impermissible to have this trial on a former president. They would acquit him and escape making a hard decision. Cowardly, but effective. He is insisting on full exoneration though, and arguing that not only was he not responsible for the violence on 1/6, but since he wants to argue that the election was stolen, that such violence was actually justified. Hence removing the GOP, and his, cowardly way out.

This is the most important part - he wants his defense not to be that he didn’t incite the mob, not that he can’t be impeached because he’s out of office, but that it was *right* to have a violent mob attack Congress.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Trump could have Pee Wee Herman for his sole lawyer and the Republican Senators will vote to acquit. Its just like the last impeachment trial. The jury has rendered its verdict before hearing the evidence.

They are hiding behind “Its unconstitutional”. Its not likely that the impeachment managers could present enough evidence to shame them into doing the right thing. The only up side is that the public will see the evidence this time around.

The GOP lost their spines the moment Trump took office. The outcome will be the same even if there’s no one left to defend Trump.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Well, looks like McConnell, Rand Paul, etc are still finding ways to out-manuveur the Dems. Not that there ever was really any shot at a Senate conviction. Two weeks ago Trump seemed too toxic for the GOP...now they're all but rolling out the red carpet for him in 2024. Was probably inevitable. He's never going away.

How McConnell derailed Trump’s impeachment trial before it started

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) on Jan. 13 announced to colleagues that he was open to voting to convict President Trump for inciting an insurrection, but since then he has taken ste…

thehill.com

Anyone that thought they were actually turning on Turmp was a fucking moron.

Wishful thinking my friend: even this assumes that these R senators are anything but the lowest level of scum, alas, they have repeatedly shown otherwise. The last good one (McCain) passed a while ago.

McCain was a piece of shit and the harbinger of Turmpism. Literally his problem with Turmp is that Turmp was too much like him and actually lived up to being a maverick instead of just blustering like one while being a partisan toady that constantly supported Turmp at every turn (with a single instance where he didn't solely because Turmp insulted him just prior and so he did it out of petty vindictiveness rather than actually giving a shit about what he was voting on).

 

[undertaker101]

Anyone that thought they were actually turning on Turmp was a fucking moron.



McCain was a piece of shit and the harbinger of Turmpism. Literally his problem with Turmp is that Turmp was too much like him and actually lived up to being a maverick instead of just blustering like one while being a partisan toady that constantly supported Turmp at every turn (with a single instance where he didn't solely because Turmp insulted him just prior and so he did it out of petty vindictiveness rather than actually giving a shit about what he was voting on).

Well atleast he fought for the country and wasn't a draft-dodger or bone-spurter

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The last good one (McCain) passed a while ago.

McCain released the Alaskan Kraken (aka Caribou Barbie) on the world. He can never be forgiven for that.

 

[undertaker101]

McCain released the Alaskan Kraken (aka Caribou Barbie) on the world. He can never be forgiven for that.

Can't disagree there...though he wanted Lieberman a centrist Democrat, it was the R establishment that forced the wolf torturer on him because Lieberman you know didn't believe that incest/rape conceptions needed to be carried to term to stay true to what drunk Roman scribes scribbled 2000 years ago....

 

[VRAMdemon]

Lol ... Jacob Chansley aka The QAnon Shaman douchebag is still trying to offer his "testimony" against Trump.

I mean, I sure hope he’s not going to testify, because the guy is obviously either a fucking moron, insane, or both. Does he have emails or texts from Trump ordering him to do this? If so, what testimony will; he offer? He got messages from Trump through his TV? If those messages overtly called for insurrection, why do they need Chansley? If they don’t, of what import are the delusions of a fucking “Qanon shaman”?

Look at the pictures of the guy. He’s wearing horns, face paint and no shirt, and in every picture he’s braying like a donkey. Not exactly a prosecution star witness.

I guess this might work:

Lawyer: Trump’s words couldn’t possibly inspire the capitol invasion.

Shaman douche : I invaded the capitol because Trump’s words inspired me to do so.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

It's not just him though. Pretty much all of them have said similar in one way or another. 'The Donny made me do it' . One testifying to that might come across as silly. A dozen or more will solidify the concept.

 

[BoomerD]

It's not just him though. Pretty much all of them have said similar in one way or another. 'The Donny made me do it' . One testifying to that might come across as silly. A dozen or more will solidify the concept.

Too bad no amount of evidence will sway the (R)'s to vote to convict...

 

[iRONic]

The way these poor mf'ers minds are being twisted... they're being mentally abused.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is the most important part - he wants his defense not to be that he didn’t incite the mob, not that he can’t be impeached because he’s out of office, but that it was *right* to have a violent mob attack Congress.

It's the only way Trump can possibly lose, so I encourage him to go for it. The vote in the Senate was 92-6 to accept the EC votes, iirc. They already said the election was not stolen so they're in a bind if they want to acquit Trump on the basis of that. Apparently the GOP is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. It reminds me of Patty Hearst robbing banks with the SLA.

 

[MtnMan]

That's like saying Dubya was a pretty good president when compared to Adolf Hitler...

He's a pretty good president compared to Trump! He only killed thousands of Americans, vs. hundreds of thousands.

 

[MtnMan]

All 5 are gone now. Currently Oompla Loompa has to no legal representation.

He doesn't need representation, the fucking reptilians* on the jury have already announced the verdict "not guilty"

* I fat fingered typing republicans, and simply let spellcheck fix it. Well it came up with reptilians, so I just leave it at that... after all they are the ones that believe in the reptilian conspiracy theory.

 

[VRAMdemon]

It's impeachment, not a court of law. But it does make me wonder if an official without means to afford representation were impeached, what would happen?

True .... You only get one of those if you can’t afford an attorney… and Trump would probably rather represent himself than imply he’s broke. Does he know he can still do that.

However, it appears the lawyers jumped ship because Trump is insisting on defending himself on the basis of his election fraud lie rather than constitutional issues. So that removes the Republican fig leaf of constitutional grounds the Republicans are offering him. They will have to acquit someone of inciting an insurrection who stood up on that podium and incited an insurrection. Even in the likely case that the Republicans still acquit him, this opens the door to bar him from office on the basis of the 14th Amendment.