Immigration, Explained with Gumballs

[Meghan54]

The FDA says you need 300g of carbs and no more than 65g of fat. That is a literal recipe for death and it is massacring people by the millions. 300g of carbs a day is a death sentence for millions. The cost of diabetes exceeds $1 trillion a year. You can argue that they are simply misinformed, but such is an argument of ignorance. You can go through every major institution and find this same thing. Run by people who are either misinformed or acting with malice. At this point it is more practical to assume it is malice.

BS. I think you are the one misinformed....unless you're talking about eating the allowed 300g of carbs solely from sodas, white bread, and refined sugars. But you're not, are you? Naaaa...you probably are, which is disingenuous at best, willfully ignorant at worst.

Same with fats.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Exactly. Just as I thought.



Thank you for playing.

Do you take everything that everyone says exactly at face value? No inference derived, only what is stated?

 

[Svnla]

Do you take everything that everyone says exactly at face value? No inference derived, only what is stated?

I can't help it what you or other "think" or "interpret" about what I said. I already tried to explain to you and others what I meant multiple times. Don't know what else to do. <shrug>

Here it is, again:

I want the best, smart, high skill, business savvy, ability to find the cure for AIDS/cancer, solving problems for human kind such as clean water, healthy foods, clean power, faster internet speed <insert more good stuffs here> (regardless of background/creed/nationality/sex/gender/sexual preference/whatever) people here in the US to help us in the present and future. Period.

And with that, if you and others still think that I mean "eugenics". That's not my problem.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I can't help it what you or other "think" or "interpret" about what I said. I already tried to explain to you and others what I meant multiple times. Don't know what else to do. <shrug>

At no point did you say 'actually, i didn't mean to imply/infer that I support biological-based immigration policies, sorry, let me correct that'. Since you never said that, I wouldn't presume to assume that you ever inferred that.

 

[Svnla]

At no point did you say 'actually, i didn't mean to imply/infer that I support biological-based immigration policies, sorry, let me correct that'. Since you never said that, I wouldn't presume to assume that you ever inferred that.

You don't get to tell me what to say so it is more suitable to you/your need/your feeling. I made a statement, I made more statements to clarify/explain what I meant in the original statement. I don't do "oh, so sorry, let me do this and that so you won't be butthurting about what I wrote".

Goodness.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

You don't get to tell me what to say so it is more suitable to you/your need/your feeling. I made a statement, I made more statements to clarify/explain what I meant in the original statement. I don't do "oh, so sorry, let me do this and that so you won't be butthurting about what I wrote".

Goodness.

Fine, just so it's clear to everyone, Svnla only ever means exactly what he states. Nothing is to be derived, inferred, or implied by his statements, and they are to be taken at exactly face value. No definitions are to be prescribed to any statement made, unless that definition also comes from Svnla him/herself. I would *like* to presume that this means Svnla will only ever do the same to others, but that wouldn't be backed up by any statement made by Svnla, and thus would be a baseless inference.

I'm sure this will lead to a fantastic level of discourse regarding a wide range of applicable topics.

 

[Svnla]

Fine, just so it's clear to everyone, Svnla only ever means exactly what he states. Nothing is to be derived, inferred, or implied by his statements, and they are to be taken at exactly face value. No definitions are to be prescribed to any statement made, unless that definition also comes from Svnla him/herself. I would *like* to presume that this means Svnla will only ever do the same to others, but that wouldn't be backed up by any statement made by Svnla, and thus would be a baseless inference.

I'm sure this will lead to a fantastic level of discourse regarding a wide range of applicable topics.

Nice try to spin your words and pretend them as mine. This is what I said "I made a statement, I made more statements to clarify/explain what I meant in the original statement." Funny how you "interpret" that simple statement into more nonsense ramblings and rantings.

Do you have anything new to contribute? Do I get permission from you to use the word "smart" from now on or that too offensive? LOL.

Oh, and I still won't do "oh, so sorry, let me do this and that so you won't be butthurting about what I wrote". Feel free to "derived, inferred, or implied" that.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Nice try to spin your words and pretend them as mine. This is what I said "I made a statement, I made more statements to clarify/explain what I meant in the original statement." Funny how you "interpret" that simple statement into more nonsense ramblings and rantings.

Do you have anything new to contribute? Do I get permission from you to use the word "smart" from now on or that too offensive? LOL.

You're fruitlessly quipping again.

Why are you upset? I'm stating what your desire was, to not have any statement inferred, but only to be taken at face value. You've called me out in this thread a dozen times or more for 'altering your words', so now I'm stating that your words should never be altered or twisted in any way, and should be taken exactly at face value henceforth. I'm supporting your argument at this point.

 

[Svnla]

You're fruitlessly quipping again.

Why are you upset? I'm stating what your desire was, to not have any statement inferred, but only to be taken at face value. You've called me out in this thread a dozen times or more for 'altering your words', so now I'm stating that your words should never be altered or twisted in any way, and should be taken exactly at face value henceforth. I'm supporting your argument at this point.

Did you read this? Short and sweet.

I made a statement, I made more statements to clarify/explain what I meant in the original statement.

Do you have anything new to contribute?

And this edit:

Oh, and I still won't do "oh, so sorry, let me do this and that so you won't be butthurting about what I wrote". Feel free to "derived, inferred, or implied" that.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Did you read this?





And this edit:

So only certain things that you state can be derived, inferred, or implied? Do we have to request that prior to getting authorization on which or your statements can derived, inferred, or implied? Or is there a ruleset you can provide which let's everyone in on the ins and outs of this?

I'd like to know, so we don't run into this in the future.

 

[Svnla]

So only certain things that you state can be derived, inferred, or implied? Do we have to request that prior to getting authorization on which or your statements can derived, inferred, or implied? Or is there a ruleset you can provide which let's everyone in on the ins and outs of this?

I'd like to know, so we don't run into this in the future.

Once again.

Do you have anything new to contribute?

Now you are trolling.

Oh, and I still won't do "oh, so sorry, let me do this and that so you won't be butthurting about what I wrote". Feel free to "derived, inferred, or implied" that.

No derived, inferred, implied from that statement? <shocking>...someone better hold my hands. I need to sit down. This is too much for my eugenics heart to handle.

Oh noooo... I did say eugenics....I am such a bad boy.....

<sarcastic mode is on>

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Now you are trolling.

Did you infer that from what I said? I never stated that I was.

 

[Svnla]

Did you infer that from what I said? I never stated that I was.

Wrong answer.

You should say "'actually, i didn't mean to imply/infer that I was trolling, sorry, let me correct that".

Do as you say and not as you do, eh?

Still nothing for this?

Oh, and I still won't do "oh, so sorry, let me do this and that so you won't be butthurting about what I wrote". Feel free to "derived, inferred, or implied" that.

Oh, scroll up and I did say "eugenics"...Oh nooo...I feel the burn now...LOL.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Wrong answer.

You should say "'actually, i didn't mean to imply/infer that I was trolling, sorry, let me correct that".

Do as you say and not as you do, eh?

Still nothing for this?

This seems to be another example of you wanting others to do something other than what you're willing to do, reaching back to a) your insistence that others do not twist your words or meaning/intent while doing the same yourself, and b) original argument of insisting others play 'fair' by following immigration policy rulesets, while refusing to play 'fair' by letting in everyone who follows aforementioned rules.

This concludes me to believe that you simply don't subscribe to the notion of fairness or equal play. You wish for you and yours to have the leg up on others, specifically those you feel are beneath you in some way.

 

[Svnla]

This seems to be another example of you wanting others to do something other than what you're willing to do, reaching back to a) your insistence that others do not twist your words or meaning/intent while doing the same yourself, and b) original argument of insisting others play 'fair' by following immigration policy rulesets, while refusing to play 'fair' by letting in everyone who follows aforementioned rules.

This concludes me to believe that you simply don't subscribe to the notion of fairness or equal play. You wish for you and yours to have the leg up on others, specifically those you feel are beneath you in some way.

You are ranting again. See the HUGE difference is after you said you were not trolling. I didn't run after you with more accusation of "yes, yes, yes you did...you really mean that.. you really say that because of reason...." so the thread would go on for 20 more pages....See the light yet?

I think you are confused me with other posters in this forum. I don't do "oh you are sooo stupid/dumb" or "your sentences/English are not grammatically correct completely so your arguments do not count" or "I am smart because of the Universe" and more 3rd grade bullcraps.

Do you have anything new to contribute? Or are you going to go on with your ranting/rambling?

One more thing, scroll up and read the post that I was talking about the example of a hiring manager of a start up. Hopefully, it would help you to understand my point about picking the best/smart/suitable.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

You are ranting again.

I think you are confused me with other posters in this forum. I don't do "oh you are sooo stupid/dumb" or "your sentences/English are not grammatically correct completely so your arguments do not count" or "I am smart because of the Universe" and more 3rd grade bullcraps.

Do you have anything new to contribute? Or are you going to go on with your ranting/rambling?

As stated back on page.. 12? or whenever, this argument has long reached an impasse due to an inability to see things from each others perspective. So I would say, yes, unless someone else can shed light on this Kinkade-esque explosion of mental vomit of a thread, I would call the time on its demise.

 

[Svnla]

As stated back on page.. 12? or whenever, this argument has long reached an impasse due to an inability to see things from each others perspective. So I would say, yes, unless someone else can shed light on this Kinkade-esque explosion of mental vomit of a thread, I would call the time on its demise.

You did not see my edit so here it is:

See the HUGE difference is after you said you were not trolling. I didn't run after you with more accusation of "yes, yes, yes you did...you really mean that.. you really say that because of reason...." so the thread would go on for 20 more pages....See the light yet?

One more thing, scroll up and read the post that I was talking about the example of a hiring manager of a start up. Hopefully, it would help you to understand my point about picking the best/smart/suitable.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

You did not see my edit so here it is:

I'd point out that there's a difference between hiring someone for a job and letting someone in a country, but I don't know that it would go anywhere.

 

[Svnla]

I'd point out that there's a difference between hiring someone for a job and letting someone in a country, but I don't know that it would go anywhere.

I was trying to explain my point that it had nothing to do with eugenics as you guys claimed repeatedly. My point was to pick out the best =! against anyone else.

How about this.

Joe: I like apple.

Bob: I think you said you like orange.

Job: No. I like apple because .....this reason...and that reason..and so on (more explanations of why he likes apple).

Bob. No. You said you like orange because I derived, inferred, or implied that you do.

Joe: What? I really said I like apple.

Bob: Actually, if you really mean that you did not like orange, you should say "I didn't mean to imply/infer that I was liking orange, sorry, let me correct that".

Joe: <shaking head>

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I was trying to explain my point that it had nothing to do with eugenics as you guys claimed repeatedly. My point was to pick out the best =! against anyone else.

Yeah, but hiring for a job has no effect on the breeding stock of a given population whereas citizen admittance does. If that was your point, as you state, 'smart' wasn't the best word choice to begin with as it spiraled into the last 8 pages of this thread.

 

[ivwshane]

Guys! Guys! I'm not saying Svnla is a fucking moron, I'm saying he's well below average intelligence and lacks common sense.

 

[Svnla]

Yeah, but hiring for a job has no effect on the breeding stock of a given population whereas citizen admittance does. If that was your point, as you state, 'smart' wasn't the best word choice to begin with as it spiraled into the last 8 pages of this thread.

See my edit with Joe and Bob above.

Or you are going to say...but..but orange and apple have no effect....(insert more...because of reason and stuffs).

 

[Svnla]

Guys! Guys! I'm not saying Svnla is a fucking moron, I'm saying he's well below average intelligence and lacks common sense.

Hey Orisis, do you see the example of "specifically those you feel are beneath you in some way" yet?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

See my edit with Joe and Bob above.

Or you are going to say...but..but orange and apple have no effect....(insert more...because of reason and stuffs).

Not seeing the correlation, except that you are seeing things one way and everyone else another. I could create an equivalent scenario but I won't because it'd be silly, unless you request it of course.

Hey Orisis, do you see the example of "specifically those you feel are beneath you in some way" yet?

Yes, some people express their frustration in unhelpful ways, it happens.

 

[ivwshane]

I was trying to explain my point that it had nothing to do with eugenics as you guys claimed repeatedly. My point was to pick out the best =! against anyone else.

How about this.

Joe: I like apple.

Bob: I think you like orange.

Job: No. I like apple because .....this reason...and that reason..and so on (more explanations of why he likes apple).

Bob. No. You like orange because I derived, inferred, or implied that you do.

Let me help you out:

You- I like red fruit that has a thin edible skin with a semi white dense flesh with little pointy oval seeds surrounding its core, whose flesh tastes sweet with a hint of sourness to it.

Everyone else- you mean an apple?

You- don't be ridiculous, I never said Apple!

Everyone else- but you described an apple. Look here is how an apple is describe by a dictionary and it matches what you just said.

You- you guys are putting words into my mouth! If I said I liked apples I would have said apples!

Everyone else- but what you described is in fact an apple.

You- you guys are ridiculous, no where in my post is the word, "Apple" therefore I couldn't possibly have meant apple.

Everyone else- /facepalm