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Immigration, Explained with Gumballs

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Blue_Max

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I've got over 200 years of American history that shows diversity is a strength, you anti American piece of shit.

Not an argument, just another empty insult.

Best of all, they're all strawmen since I haven't argued AGAINST all "diversity", but merely put you guys on the spot to actually define your precious buzzwords. So far, still no luck.

What I AM saying is that NOT ALL diversity is good. Plenty of genetic diseases and awful cultural practices a civilized nation is better off without.
 

Chiropteran

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Funny thing.

Terror attacks are 'part and parcel of living in a big city', claims London mayor Sadiq Khan

Funny theory, until you look at Japan's cities. That is odd, no terrorist attacks there since 1995...

Can't possibly have anything to do with the extremely strict immigration policies and refusal to take refugees, could it?
 

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Lifer
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https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

Procreating with your cousins is generally a bad idea. I'll spare you the pictures.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/richard-lynn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn#Reception

lol. Please try harder kid. Your faux, pseudo-intellectual sources don't make a convincing argument for anyone in the scientific and statistical communities, as there are no serious research institutions that pursue a line of work (racial IQ) that has been so thoroughly shown to be a research dead-end. If you're citing Lynn you might as well cite long debunked and ignored nonsense like the Bell Curve. Citing it as like citing Infowars for daily news digests; no one has any reason to think you're not easily duped and you simply will not be taken seriously.
 

Chiropteran

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Is poor Chirpy derpy still posting?

You guys really think calling me names somehow makes my points less relevant. It's kinda cute but on a global level I guess it explains why you were so incredibly wrong about Hillary.

Sore losers, I guess.
 

Blue_Max

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lol. Please try harder kid. Your faux, pseudo-intellectual sources don't make a convincing argument for anyone in the scientific and statistical communities.

You talk to me about pseudo-science and your great debunking source is a social justice warrior site.

*sigh*

This is like asking for men's rights from Jessica Valenti.

Will your next link be Salon or HuffPo?
 

brycejones

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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/richard-lynn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn#Reception

lol. Please try harder kid. Your faux, pseudo-intellectual sources don't make a convincing argument for anyone in the scientific and statistical communities, as there are no serious research institutions that pursue a line of work (racial IQ) that has been so thoroughly shown to be a research dead-end. If you're citing Lynn you might as well cite long debunked and ignored nonsense like the Bell Curve. Citing it as like citing Infowars for daily news digests; no one has any reason to think you're not easily duped and you simply will not be taken seriously.

If that isn't good enough for you how about some phrenology? Max can probably talk about that for hours. He saw a documentary on it once, something about someone being unchained.
 

Chiropteran

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We. And thankfully most of us are not xenophobes who use specious arguments to stop immigration.

We have plenty of room. Immigrants are a net asset to our country and economy. Diversity is strength, both in industry, and genetically.

No "we" don't.

If you want to donate your home to immigrants, be my guest. But the majority of Americans don't even own a home. Can't share what you don't even have.
 

theeedude

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Flyover America should be on their knees begging talented immigrants to move there.
 

greatnoob

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No "we" don't.

Yes you do. Instead of linking some dumbfuck playing with his balls (probably for his retarded audience who aren't capable of actually understanding peer-reviewed papers), why not back it up with some actual evidence? You can't, because no respected economist is stupid enough to say that there isn't room for growth or there aren't enough resources for it.

If you want to donate your home to immigrants, be my guest. But the majority of Americans don't even own a home. Can't share what you don't even have.
Let's forget about that plainly obvious strawman for a second. The fault lies on inbreds like you who vote against their self interest by voting in an admin who has rich businessmen in his cabinet, doesn't understand the policies he signs, has been cutting funds from education (a significant factor required for a good economy w/ high income per capita) and healthcare, instead redirecting them to the already bloated military and his now even richer lobbyist friends.

EDIT: in case you're as dumb as the person below, the economy is like it is because of stupid decisions by stupid people in power who were voted in by stupid people (like below), not by refugees - so saying you can't take them in because of something as stupid as that makes no sense as they're not mutually exclusive problems.
 
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Chiropteran

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Let's forget about that plainly obvious strawman for a second. The fault lies on inbreds like you who vote against their self interest by voting in an admin who has rich businessmen in his cabinet, doesn't understand the policies he signs, has been cutting funds from education (a significant factor required for a good economy w/ high income per capita) and healthcare, instead redirecting them to the already bloated military and his now even richer lobbyist friends.

Oh this is really rich. So the reason American home ownership is at an all time low is because of Trump?

Is that honestly your stance? Please confirm yes/no.
 

greatnoob

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Oh this is really rich. So the reason American home ownership is at an all time low is because of Trump?

Is that honestly your stance? Please confirm yes/no.

Read through it again retard. I know you're not great at grasping context but give it another shot, champ.
 

greatnoob

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Just as I thought, trying to squirm out of it like a worm.

Your reading incomprehension is not my problem, I even included an edit above to help autistic folk like you understand better. You're the retard saying that growth and sharing of resource isn't possible. You're also the dumbfuck who linked a video of some nobody playing with balls expecting this to be some sort of credible source against immigration when any reputable economist would say otherwise. Then again you're also not very good at reading and understanding context as seen twice in this thread now.

BTW I'm still waiting for you to post some peer-reviewed papers against the benefits of immigration to the US Economy. Mind sharing some?
 

Chiropteran

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Really?

64% do as of 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home-ownership_in_the_United_States

Or is that a liberal lie?

It's not a lie, you just can't read.

The home-ownership rate in the United States[1][2] is percentage of homes that are owned by their occupants

"the majority of Americans don't even own a home"

Do you understand how both can be true?

If you actually read the wikipedia page you linked, the answer is right there, as plain as day:

"The name "homeownership rate" can be misleading. As defined by the US Census Bureau, it is the percentage of homes that are occupied by the owner. It is not the percentage of adults that own their own home. This latter percentage will be significantly lower than the homeownership rate because many households that are owner-occupied contain adult relatives (often young adults, descendents of the owner) who do not own their own home, and because single building multi-bedroom rental units can contain more than one adult, all of whom do not own a home."

Again: It is not the percentage of adults that own their own home.
 

Chiropteran

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But please, don't let this ownage distract you. Can you please go back to explaining how this problem is the fault of Trump voters?

Hint: it wasn't Trump voters who put Obama in office the last 8 years.
 

ivwshane

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Not an argument, just another empty insult.

Best of all, they're all strawmen since I haven't argued AGAINST all "diversity", but merely put you guys on the spot to actually define your precious buzzwords. So far, still no luck.

What I AM saying is that NOT ALL diversity is good. Plenty of genetic diseases and awful cultural practices a civilized nation is better off without.

Lol! No one said anything about all diversity (whatever the fuck that means).

God damn you are such an idiot.
 

greatnoob

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But please, don't let this ownage distract you. Can you please go back to explaining how this problem is the fault of Trump voters?

Hint: it wasn't Trump voters who put Obama in office the last 8 years.

Nobody has said that. That's just you diving really hard at elementary reading. But by all means revert to attacking a strawman after you've derailed your own thread, you've obviously failed pretty badly by expecting that any rational person would take the words of a journalist playing with balls over an academic economist so I don't blame you for diverting everybody's attention.

I'm still waiting for those peer reviewed papers that say immigrants are bad for the US' economy. Please post them here if you aren't a lying piece of shit and you expect us to believe you because a journalist playing with his balls doesn't make a very good case.
 

Chiropteran

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Nobody has said that. That's just you diving really hard at elementary reading. But by all means revert to attacking a strawman after you yourself derailed this thread, you've obviously failed pretty badly by expecting any rational person would take the words of a journalist playing with balls over an academic economist.

I'm still waiting for those peer reviewed papers that say immigrants are bad for the US' economy. Please post them here if you aren't a lying piece of shit and you expect us to believe you.

Nice try, you dirtbag liar.

Lets look at your post line by line. You tell me the part I am misinterpreting.

>The fault lies on inbreds like you who vote against their self interest by voting in an admin who has rich businessmen in his cabinet,
You are saying the fault of the low home-ownership is people who vote for Trump, right? Is there some other politician who you were describing?

>doesn't understand the policies he signs, has been cutting funds from education
I don't necessarily agree that all of this applies to Trump, but it sounds like the sort of garbage people spew about him. You were not talking about Obama were you?

>(a significant factor required for a good economy w/ high income per capita) and healthcare, instead redirecting them to
Much of the same BS from your mouth.

>the already bloated military and his now even richer lobbyist friends.
Not sure which lobbyist has gained money from Trump. And my understand is Trump has, thus-far, only saved the military money, thanks to some re-negotiation on prices of a few things.

That's all folks! It sure sounds to me like you are blaming Trump voters, now please explain where I am reading you wrong, or kindly apologize and GTFO of this thread.
 

greatnoob

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Nice try, you dirtbag liar.

Lets look at your post line by line. You tell me the part I am misinterpreting.

>The fault lies on inbreds like you who vote against their self interest by voting in an admin who has rich businessmen in his cabinet,
You are saying the fault of the low home-ownership is people who vote for Trump, right? Is there some other politician who you were describing?

>doesn't understand the policies he signs, has been cutting funds from education
I don't necessarily agree that all of this applies to Trump, but it sounds like the sort of garbage people spew about him. You were not talking about Obama were you?

>(a significant factor required for a good economy w/ high income per capita) and healthcare, instead redirecting them to
Much of the same BS from your mouth.

>the already bloated military and his now even richer lobbyist friends.
Not sure which lobbyist has gained money from Trump. And my understand is Trump has, thus-far, only saved the military money, thanks to some re-negotiation on prices of a few things.

That's all folks! It sure sounds to me like you are blaming Trump voters, now please explain where I am reading you wrong, or kindly apologize and GTFO of this thread.

You haven't proven anything except that you have problems comprehending sentences and that you're not very good at arguing when you reply with "Much of the same BS from your mouth" to me posting a basic macroecon101 fact lol.

I even included an edit a few posts prior so autistic people who aren't capable of actually inferring context could understand let me post it here again for you:
EDIT: in case you're as dumb as the person below, the economy is like it is because of stupid decisions by stupid people in power who were voted in by stupid people (like below), not by refugees - so saying you can't take them in because of something as stupid as that makes no sense as they're not mutually exclusive problems.

Now are you finished arguing with yourself against a non sequitur? If you are I'd like to see those peer reviewed papers that say immigration is bad for the US' economy like I've been asking you for a couple of posts back. Any reason why you're diverting so hard?
 

Chiropteran

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Now are you finished arguing with yourself against a non sequitur? If you are I'd like to see those peer reviewed papers that say immigration is bad for the US' economy like I've been asking you for a couple of posts back. Any reason why you're diverting so hard?

So you accuse me of a straw man, and then use an appeal to authority.

Wait, full stop. Actually, you are now using an appeal to authority PLUS a straw man (I never said a damn thing about immigrants being bad for the economy).

I love how pissed off you are about the video, but I don't really give a shit about your economic non-argument. For the last 8 years all the funding has been coming from a very pro-immigration government. No surprise that money can get the results it wants.

And I still find it hilarious that you think the people who voted for Trump are responsible for Obama's election. You truly are clueless.