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JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Coasting downhill is not going to save you any fuel whatsoever. When coasting in gear you are using zero gas anyway. Coasting in neutral you are actually using fuel to keep the engine at idle.

No. If I coast in gear the engine will turn and I will lose fuel. :(

Look, when you let off of the accelerator pedal in gear the ECU cuts fuel and the engine is spun by the momentum of the wheels. When you are in neutral the engine is not attached to the wheels so the ECU has to keep a constant flow of fuel to allow the engine to idle.

Incase you didn't get it let me spell it out: WHEN THE ENGINE IS IDLING IT IS USING GASOLINE.

My car idles when it is at a stop. It's not moving, so no fuel is used. If I do that while the car body is moving I save money BIG TIME.

go let your car idle in your driveway all day and see how much gas you have left.

A nice chubby full tank, of course. I WILL HAVE DONE NO MILES.

Well, you're partially right. You will have averaged zero miles per gallon.
 
Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Coasting downhill is not going to save you any fuel whatsoever. When coasting in gear you are using zero gas anyway. Coasting in neutral you are actually using fuel to keep the engine at idle.

No. If I coast in gear the engine will turn and I will lose fuel. :(

Look, when you let off of the accelerator pedal in gear the ECU cuts fuel and the engine is spun by the momentum of the wheels. When you are in neutral the engine is not attached to the wheels so the ECU has to keep a constant flow of fuel to allow the engine to idle.

Incase you didn't get it let me spell it out: WHEN THE ENGINE IS IDLING IT IS USING GASOLINE.

My car idles when it is at a stop. It's not moving, so no fuel is used. If I do that while the car body is moving I save money BIG TIME.

go let your car idle in your driveway all day and see how much gas you have left.

A nice chubby full tank, of course. I WILL HAVE DONE NO MILES.

if you aren't just trolling all of us, I pray for your parents having raised such an obtuse child.
 

Philippine Mango

Diamond Member
Oct 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Coasting downhill is not going to save you any fuel whatsoever. When coasting in gear you are using zero gas anyway. Coasting in neutral you are actually using fuel to keep the engine at idle.

No. If I coast in gear the engine will turn and I will lose fuel. :(

Look, when you let off of the accelerator pedal in gear the ECU cuts fuel and the engine is spun by the momentum of the wheels. When you are in neutral the engine is not attached to the wheels so the ECU has to keep a constant flow of fuel to allow the engine to idle.

Incase you didn't get it let me spell it out: WHEN THE ENGINE IS IDLING IT IS USING GASOLINE.

My car idles when it is at a stop. It's not moving, so no fuel is used. If I do that while the car body is moving I save money BIG TIME.

go let your car idle in your driveway all day and see how much gas you have left.

A nice chubby full tank, of course. I WILL HAVE DONE NO MILES.

Actually if you want to improve fuel consumption (reduce it), I'd consider leaving your tank 1/4, while thats not good for the fuel pump if you run the tank TOO low, you'll definately improve your mileage over hauling all that extra fuel...
 

funboy6942

Lifer
Nov 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chryso
I like to turn off the engine when going downhill to save even more gas.

The real key to saving the gas though is to turn the engine off, lock the wheel, throw the keys out the window. Got to make sure to do this at night and turn the head lights off so you dont use more power cuz the generator will eat more gas from the engine when producing the electricalness's for the power consumption of the gizmo's.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: Chryso
I like to turn off the engine when going downhill to save even more gas.

The real key to saving the gas though is to turn the engine off, lock the wheel, throw the keys out the window. Got to make sure to do this at night and turn the head lights off so you dont use more power cuz the generator will eat more gas from the engine when producing the electricalness's for the power consumption of the gizmo's.

Excellent advice! BTW-The steeper the hill, the more gas you will save!
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: Chryso
I like to turn off the engine when going downhill to save even more gas.

The real key to saving the gas though is to turn the engine off, lock the wheel, throw the keys out the window. Got to make sure to do this at night and turn the head lights off so you dont use more power cuz the generator will eat more gas from the engine when producing the electricalness's for the power consumption of the gizmo's.

Excellent advice! BTW-The steeper the hill, the more gas you will save!

I'm gonna try this tonight.
 

Philippine Mango

Diamond Member
Oct 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: Chryso
I like to turn off the engine when going downhill to save even more gas.

The real key to saving the gas though is to turn the engine off, lock the wheel, throw the keys out the window. Got to make sure to do this at night and turn the head lights off so you dont use more power cuz the generator will eat more gas from the engine when producing the electricalness's for the power consumption of the gizmo's.

Excellent advice! BTW-The steeper the hill, the more gas you will save!

I heard if you go past a certain grade you'll actually gain gas back, like a reverse generator or something. It's probably because the engine is turning so fast that the fuel gets backed up and ends up going in the reverse direction with the combustion chamber actually producing gasoline from all the nitrogen it burns when it runs that hot.



No I'm not a chemist, but I did stay at a holiday inn express two nights ago so my memory is a bit fuzzy...
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: Chryso
I like to turn off the engine when going downhill to save even more gas.

The real key to saving the gas though is to turn the engine off, lock the wheel, throw the keys out the window. Got to make sure to do this at night and turn the head lights off so you dont use more power cuz the generator will eat more gas from the engine when producing the electricalness's for the power consumption of the gizmo's.

Excellent advice! BTW-The steeper the hill, the more gas you will save!

I'm gonna try this tonight.

Be sure and let us know how this all works out for you! :thumbsup:

BTW-I hear that the tuck and roll is the best way to escape a runaway vehicle moving at high speed. ;)
 

funboy6942

Lifer
Nov 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: Chryso
I like to turn off the engine when going downhill to save even more gas.

The real key to saving the gas though is to turn the engine off, lock the wheel, throw the keys out the window. Got to make sure to do this at night and turn the head lights off so you dont use more power cuz the generator will eat more gas from the engine when producing the electricalness's for the power consumption of the gizmo's.

Excellent advice! BTW-The steeper the hill, the more gas you will save!

I'm gonna try this tonight.

Be sure and let us know how this all works out for you! :thumbsup:

BTW-I hear that the tuck and roll is the best way to escape a runaway vehicle moving at high speed. ;)

No thats duck and cover :)
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I'm going to drive with all the windows down, too, to save on A/C.

Have you thought about taking out all of the seats and switching to really skinny, small "tyres?" Like the kind they use on wheelbarrows?
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I'm going to drive with all the windows down, too, to save on A/C.

Have you thought about taking out all of the seats and switching to really skinny, small "tyres?" Like the kind they use on wheelbarrows?

I have already swapped my 19" wheels to shopping trolly wheels. They're 4" of bling, but only 1.5" wide. I WIN!
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
:laugh:
You smarmy bastard. I know what you're doing.
*looks closely at DBZ's avatar*

You just want to be a 'HYPERMILER' like me. :p

True, I also hope to save fuel. In bulk.

Would you sell the bulk fuel? online?
 

Crucial

Diamond Member
Dec 21, 2000
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When I coast down hill I lose speed. The only way I can maintain speed is by pressing the accelerator. If I push in the clutch I will maintain speed or gain speed on the same hill. Explain to me how the ECU can cut off fuel if I have to press the accelerator to maintain speed? At speed the revs are around 1800. Coasting with clutch in revs are 800.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Crucial
When I coast down hill I lose speed. The only way I can maintain speed is by pressing the accelerator. If I push in the clutch I will maintain speed or gain speed on the same hill. Explain to me how the ECU can cut off fuel if I have to press the accelerator to maintain speed? At speed the revs are around 1800. Coasting with clutch in revs are 800.

Yeah, you save gas.
 

Philippine Mango

Diamond Member
Oct 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: Crucial
When I coast down hill I lose speed. The only way I can maintain speed is by pressing the accelerator. If I push in the clutch I will maintain speed or gain speed on the same hill. Explain to me how the ECU can cut off fuel if I have to press the accelerator to maintain speed? At speed the revs are around 1800. Coasting with clutch in revs are 800.

If you have to press the accelerator then you're an idiot. You're using "too much" engine braking, switch to a higher gear... Only press the accelerator when going down the hill if you prefer to coast at a slower speed but end up having some dumbass come up behind you riding your ass on the way down...
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
:laugh:
You smarmy bastard. I know what you're doing.
*looks closely at DBZ's avatar*

You just want to be a 'HYPERMILER' like me. :p

True, I also hope to save fuel. In bulk.

Would you sell the bulk fuel? online?

Yes, but you'd have to buy it in at least alternator-sized amounts. I think that's around 10lb.
 

d3n

Golden Member
Mar 13, 2004
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I sometimes down shift when going down hill to let the engine do the breaking. Thats another topic I imagine.
 

Philippine Mango

Diamond Member
Oct 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
:laugh:
You smarmy bastard. I know what you're doing.
*looks closely at DBZ's avatar*

You just want to be a 'HYPERMILER' like me. :p

True, I also hope to save fuel. In bulk.

Would you sell the bulk fuel? online?

Yes, but you'd have to buy it in at least alternator-sized amounts. I think that's around 10lb.

:laugh: