I'm becoming very racist towards hispanics... help?

[IronWing]

OP, you're just part of the current in crowd. It is very fashionable to be a bigot this year.

 

[geno]

they make burritos. they mow our lawns. i think that's alot already

This isn't California, there's a much different ethnic mix up here.

 

[amddude]

This sounds more like prejudice than true racism.

Prejudice: you're inclined to think negatively (to any degree) about latinos
Racism: you essentially hate all latinos as a matter of race alone

 

[JulesMaximus]

I pay property taxes on a decent sized house and have no kids. It is the common thing for Hispanics to live 3-4 families to a house with sometimes a dozen kids all going to school and the landlord only pays minimal property taxes because these houses are usually in the low rent areas. I have seen this all my life. It is nothing new. I'm sorry but most Hispanic immigrants are very low wage earners and they consume way more public services than they ever contribute to the economy or tax base. I realize it is impossible to see this when you think with your heart.

How are they any different than the black and white poor in this country?

 

[amddude]

How are they any different than the black and white poor in this country?

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparebar.jsp?ind=158&cat=3

The answer, factually, is that non-whites disproportionately consume government assistance.

 

[ShawnD1]

You'd be surprised. IIRC, trash men make a very decent amount of money. Also, there's more money in landscaping-related things than you might think. My cousin (white) runs a crew (mixed Hispanic/white) that installs FiOS service to residential areas.

EDIT: Trash collector salaries aren't as high as I thought, but even still... $43K isn't THAT bad for what's essentially unskilled labor. (source)

Yep, sounds about right. One of my crackhead uneducated unskilled friends was doing garbage duty and he got roughly $20/h to do that. I was working in a drug lab at the time doing gas chromatography on drug samples.... which only pays about $17/hour. I have since left chemistry and gone into something else.

 

[JulesMaximus]

you don't get high taxes from low wages, its inevitable. all the taxes they do pay couldn't pay for the cost of educating their children in california alone.

Right, so let's stop educating their children. That way they can be assured of NEVER assimilating into or contributing to our society...

 

[Phokus]

To the OP: Stop hanging around tea baggers.

 

[Insomniator]

Right, so let's stop educating their children. That way they can be assured of NEVER assimilating into or contributing to our society...

Do families pay more taxes per child? Maybe they should.

Don't have kids if you can't afford it. Of course they'd still have kids and probably just keep them out of school so they don't have to pay. Its hopeless.

 

[jhbball]

I'm not gonna get into details since the title alone probably already puts this thread on the verge of getting locked, so here's the short version:

I live in new england and 99% of the hispanics I encounter (and there are a LOT of them to encounter, btw) contribute very little back to the community they live in.

Tell me why I'm wrong. Draw some parallels with past racial prejudices, e.g. Polish, Irish, etc. I've tried to do this myself, but it's not really working.

Is hispanic immigration and their perception by the majority following the same path as previous waves of immigrants? Are they assimilating at the same rate, and it just seems different because I'm witnessing it instead of reading about it in a book?

You're pathetic.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Why is your racism our concern? We are not here to calm your fears and appease you with the obvious.

Help! I want to steal crap from 7-11!
Help! Im at the Discovery Channel headquarters and think humans must die!
Help!

 

[MiniDoom]

aren't you late for your clan rally?

 

[LittleNemoNES]

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparebar.jsp?ind=158&cat=3

The answer, factually, is that non-whites disproportionately consume government assistance.

Yes and hispanics and blacks are disproportionately poor...

Poor people using services designed for the poor -- who would have thought.

Face it, you resent other races. As a hispanic person I don't blame you for it, though. I think it is natural to notice the differences between us...

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwf70SQRq8Q

 

[child of wonder]

When I was 9 my parents would have a lady from church babysit me and my sister occasionally. She lived in an apartment complex and there was a large, shared play area for kids outside.

A couple of the neighbor kids liked to start trouble. They'd tease my sister and I quite a bit out there and we did our best to steer clear of them. Apparently they thought they'd get us in trouble by telling their mom that I threatened to beat them up. The mom sends her Mexican boyfriend out to confront me.

Imagine you're 9, playing on a playground minding your own business when some Mexican dude in a wife beater approaches you and says:

"You leave these kids alone or I'll cut your head off, put you in a sack, and dump you in the river."

I was VERY prejudiced against Hispanics for years after that. Not until I was in my 20s did I finally let it go.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Do families pay more taxes per child? Maybe they should.

Don't have kids if you can't afford it. Of course they'd still have kids and probably just keep them out of school so they don't have to pay. Its hopeless.

Right...let's cut the taxes for the rich and increase taxes on the poor. In fact, let's tax the middle class more too! That way we can wipe out the middle class completely and then we'll just have the minority wealthy and the poor masses. What a great country that would be! Kind of like, well, most third world countries.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Just remind yourself, it's the culture, not the color. There are white, Hispanic, Asian, and black people who all act like worthless ghetto thugs. And by the same token there are members of those same races who are successful, contributing members of society. It's the "street culture" I have a problem with, not the people themselves.

Can't speak for thug types, but it always seems that Hispanic workers are much better workers who complain much less than your typical spoiled white kid. But that's a pretty broad generalization and you have to take age/maturity into account.

 

[Platypus]

lol, I weep for the future of this country.

 

[CPA]

There is the keyword: most doesn't mean all. So you can't blame the race. It would be ignorant to try to generalize a problem to all the members of a group just because they all share a superficial feature. Besides, I'm almost positive you've seen the same problem in other races, but due to confirmation bias, you end up ignoring those cases that don't reinforce your stereotypes.

fine, we'll blame the culture because it is a cultural thing. Sure there are exceptions but every culture has exceptions.

 

[HumblePie]

Some immigrants comsume more "public" funding than they contribute. Many more do not. Besides hostipal care, illegal immigrants can not make claims on any other public funding. They can not attend schools here, they can not get welfare, and they can not receive workman's comp. Heck, they can not even check out a book from the public library.

Most illegal immigrants pay quite a bit more into taxes than you would think without having the ability to withdraw things like social security. Not all, but many. I'm not talking about the vagrant migrant workers that do odd jobs for a few bucks under the radar for straight cash. I'm talking about the ones that got recruited in Mexico to come work out factories by companies that are breaking the law to hire basically slaves. They still have a payroll and are taxed for it. Those employers just hide the fact that the workers are not legal residents. If you have ever watched the movie Food Inc then you'll know the ones I'm talking about. These immigrants make up a much larger group of illegals than the ones all the fear mongers would have you believe.

 

[BurnItDwn]

The major contribution of latino immigrants is in the supply of low pay, mostly unskilled labor. This is an important cog in the business industry as it stimulates the flow of money and improves the cost of living for those in the lower and middle class.
Latino citizens are another story, but no different than the average human, in their right to pursue the American dream, albeit a more difficult one than the caucasian due to embedded racist tendencies and stereotypes in a world still dominated by caucasian males. Contribution enough is 'getting by'; living paycheck to paycheck. You are earning your keep. If you want to talk about true contribution, then you need look no further than those who are active duty for their country. What you will find is that latino representation is disproportionately higher in the services than in society.

Well said

 

[MJinZ]

I'm not gonna get into details since the title alone probably already puts this thread on the verge of getting locked, so here's the short version:

I live in new england and 99% of the hispanics I encounter (and there are a LOT of them to encounter, btw) contribute very little back to the community they live in.

Tell me why I'm wrong. Draw some parallels with past racial prejudices, e.g. Polish, Irish, etc. I've tried to do this myself, but it's not really working.

Is hispanic immigration and their perception by the majority following the same path as previous waves of immigrants? Are they assimilating at the same rate, and it just seems different because I'm witnessing it instead of reading about it in a book?

I live in New England too and the only thing I have against Hispanics is that they are disgraceful to Asians. Not as smart, hard working, lots of gang violence and retardation.

 

[0roo0roo]

Right, so let's stop educating their children. That way they can be assured of NEVER assimilating into or contributing to our society...

yea lets stop dodging the issue, you are on the side unwilling to deal with the fact that ever more mexicans are flooding over and helping to break our social support/educational systems. are you really pretending this shit has no cost?, californias school system has been slipping in rank forever now, spending per student is total sh*t, the state is bankrupt and you are going to pretend your mentality is the right way of dealing with the situation the flood of "hard working" mexicans has continued unabated for decades now and the states more f*cked up than ever. the parts that are filled with illegals are worst of all, some people can look a sinking ship in the face and say its all just fine just because they fear being called a racist. some folks are apologist for a system based on exploitation of cheap labor and the devaluing of honest work. all out of a fear of being racist. Its not the 1800s anymore. You can't import tons of poor people and just throw them to the wolves and grind them up in factories for cheap. Now we have to pay for expensive social services for these poor people, and so it just doesn't work and is undermining life for american citizens.

 

[eits]

stop watching fox news

/help

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

are they illegal?
if so, hate away.