i'm a complete fool [updated]

[DigDog]

had the fourth interview for a job 3 weeks ago, spoke first to the recruiter and then to the company owners; both specifically said "you are confirmed for the 11th".
handed in my resignation to my current job, got the confirmation today that my IDs are getting shut down on the 12th.

just spoke to the recruiter who denies ever offering me the position.

since i have resigned, i am also unable to claim any unemployment; gonna lose my house and will probably have to move out of the country; getting hired in under 4 weeks by *anyone* seems unlikely.

update on last post

 

[CraKaJaX]

What... ? You mentioned you spoke to the recruiter and the company owners, but the recruiter denies the offer. What about the company owners?

 

[gorcorps]

Wait... so you never signed any documents or got an official offer letter?

 

[chitwood]

well there's always manwhoring

 

[edro]

Have to move out of the country?
Are you here on a work visa?
I would assume you had everything in writing before you resigned.

You can always beg for your job back.

 

[purbeast0]

this story doesn't make much sense at all.

1. every recruiter i've dealt with at any job communicates a lot over email so there will be a paper trail of everything.
2. if you seriously handed in your resignation without signing an offer letter for the new job, that was moronic on your part.
3. you haven't even contacted the company owners about the new position?

 

[Bubblehappy]

this story doesn't make much sense at all.

1. every recruiter i've dealt with at any job communicates a lot over email so there will be a paper trail of everything.
2. if you seriously handed in your resignation without signing an offer letter for the new job, that was moronic on your part.
3. you haven't even contacted the company owners about the new position?

Pretty much this. Why would you resign a position with a company without a signed offer letter from the new company?

 

[Rumpltzer]

Former company won't take you back?

 

[BD231]

Fokin white people ... always sayin or doin foul shit then claiming no involvment.

 

[PenguinPower]

You're in Scotland, right? You would have had to have signed an employment contract for the new company, correct? Why did you resign before doing so?

 

[DigDog]

ok, here's the story.

i have an extensive paper trail. nowhere does it say i have been offered a position.

i have had 4 interviews; at my third interview, it was said that it was the last and anyone progressing would be accepted. note how they used terms like "you are in", "it's complete", "the start date is the 11th", but never "YOU ARE HIRED".

during my 4th interview i asked how the process was going and they said "oh that's all done, this is just to get to know you". went upstairs to speak to the owners and one of them said "are you ready to start".

i have signed application forms of which i was not given a copy.
mind you this is EU, not US, so they do things very liberally here.


i have a 2 weeks notice period at work and have handed in my resignation; i got the letter today stating that the procedure to expunge me from the bank's records has begun - there is no going back.

i'm not on a visa, but i have just come out of unemployment - i have no money. i have worked at the bank for barely over 2 months, and since i QUIT, i cannot claim any unemployment for 6 months, which means no money to pay the rent.

i agree i'm an idiot for thinking that when a company owner says things like "welcome aboard" and "see you at work" that means i'm hired.

i've contacted the recruiter on multiple occasions but they are pathetic - never return my calls, the rep is always absent.

i severely doubt i will ever have a chance to actually speak to the owners again. according to the last email from the recruiter,

[the owners] felt that you interviewed really well and they really liked you however there are limited spaces available for the 11th and these roles have been offered to other candidates. They would however like to keep your details for their second round of recruitment due to take place in June.

way i see it, they decided to hire me, then they found people they liked better, and forgot to tell me.

i'm the idiot here; i cannot help it, i trust people and never think they are gonna fuck me, and they always do.

 

[pmv]

Go ask at a citizen's advice bureau! Its just possible you could get jsa if you explained the circumstances. There are circumstances where you can claim even if you resigned, outside chance that 'thinking you had another job when you didn't' might qualify, if the person deciding finds your story plausible.

If you can't claim unemployment you might qualify for 'hardship payments' if you have no other income.

Edit - of course if you aren't a UK or at least EU citizen its a whole other situation.

 

[Stopsignhank]

Dude, So sorry man. Although to be honest with you it sounds like it would be a pretty crappy place to work. They certainly do not know how to treat people like people.

 

[Markbnj]

First lesson is don't resign without something tangible on the new gig, i.e. an offer letter. If they liked you at your current job and were sorry to see you go then chances are you can get a meeting and unwind this. No guarantees, and it will of course not be a fun conversation to have, but you can probably pull it off.

 

[DigDog]

being honest - which is something i dont like to do often - i am destroyed.

last interview, we discussed the differences in character than US and EUs have, how it would affect our sales and marketing, they gave me a couple books to look up ("Mastering The Coplex Sale"), i finally felt like i would have a job where my intelligence counts for something.
in the bank job, we have an average target of 12 files completed per day; it takes me 9 minutes MAX to do a file. it takes my colleagues 35 to 45 minutes. we work 11 hours shifts (+1h lunch).
i'm there reading AT and trying to find something to occupy my brain with when behind the strictest firewall you've ever seen.

the typical office conversation is "i have brought my car in the shop" "yeah i had to fix mine last week". fuck me, i'm still hoping to find someone to discuss with me keynes vs smith, but i'd settle for someone who has watched deadpool.
it just seems to me that life loves to kick em in the balls; other people get random promotions, i get this bullshit here.

 

[DrPizza]

First lesson is don't resign without something tangible on the new gig, i.e. an offer letter. If they liked you at your current job and were sorry to see you go then chances are you can get a meeting and unwind this. No guarantees, and it will of course not be a fun conversation to have, but you can probably pull it off.

This.

Also, watch Office Space for ideas. :sneaky:

 

[Ketchup]

Try to undo what you did at your current job. It will be a pain, and you may think it is impossible, but the only way to make it definite is not even trying. If they like you, they will try to keep you.

 

[SP33Demon]

Cheer up, something will come up. You are far from destroyed, because you still have a job. If it were me? I would try applying to 20 bank openings today. If you cannot find 20 bank openings, then cold call and ask to speak to a hiring manager of banks nearby and in the least email your resume to HR of each bank. Don't tell them about your situation yet (you still have a job!), just say that you are a hard worker and have a lot to offer. Tomorrow, contact 10-20 more if possible and expand your travel radius. Then expand to places you'd be willing to move. Rinse repeat. Something will turn up eventually, you just have to be willing to get into fight or flight mode right now. Just start calling banks, there are many positions out there that aren't advertised. Don't wait.

 

[DigDog]

i'll spend the next 4 days filling applications, then monday i might get a chance to arrange a meeting with the owners - first speak with the recruiter (she's on holiday again, bless her soul), the ask for the meeting to clarify the situation. if i have to beg, i'd rather beg for the job i actually want.

england (as in, not-scotland) does not have the 6 months limit, might have to move south of the border for a while. sucks because i have a lovely little house 10 minutes away from glasgow which is cheap and cheerful (300 quid a month for a two bedroom ... try that in the US). i really do not want to lose this lease.

 

[SP33Demon]

i'll spend the next 4 days filling applications, then monday i might get a chance to arrange a meeting with the owners - first speak with the recruiter (she's on holiday again, bless her soul), the ask for the meeting to clarify the situation. if i have to beg, i'd rather beg for the job i actually want.

england (as in, not-scotland) does not have the 6 months limit, might have to move south of the border for a while. sucks because i have a lovely little house 10 minutes away from glasgow which is cheap and cheerful (300 quid a month for a two bedroom ... try that in the US). i really do not want to lose this lease.

Yeah that's a good idea, and don't forget to burn any vacation you have to so you can take time off and call/apply for these jobs. I'm sure your boss will understand your situation. Just make sure it won't burn any bridges (i.e. mess up any references from your current job).

Agree regarding if you have to beg the new owners than why not? You have nothing to lose so it's good that you have the right attitude. Put out as many inquiries as possible in the next 4 days (hopefully you have vacation). Something will turn up, have faith in your abilities.

 

[zinfamous]

Hard to swallow this right now, but my advice is to take as a sign that one: the previous bank was boring and thoughtless, you didn't want to be there any way. New place is filled with jerks that probably turn over humans like cattle, so you would never want to work there either.

explore the options around you and do some serious thinking about what you really want to be doing over the next 3-5 years or so. Drink some scotch.

consider man-whoring, as mentioned earlier. You have more options than you probably imagine.

 

[DigDog]

tnx for the support; i got to go read 50 pages of Reed job ads. i'll let ya'all know.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Ow, yeah, that was a pretty epic fail.

Good luck, dude.

 

[Sonikku]

We all make mistakes. Good luck.

 

[Humpy]

This sounds like the beginning of pretty much every success story ever told. "So, it all started the day I accidentally quit my job..."

I think a lot of porn starts this way too.

You're good either way.