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Illegals suing for instate tuition

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Most ironic the apologists who want higher wages, fair labor practices, unionization, affordable health care, defend the very illegals that the other guy, the evil republicans, are using as a tool to destroy or lower those very things.
 
1prophet said:
Most ironic the apologists who want higher wages, fair labor practices, unionization, affordable health care, defend the very illegals that the other guy, the evil republicans, are using as a tool to destroy or lower those very things.
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And if they were documented, and labor laws enforced, that particular issue would not exist.
 
Zaap said:
As said, people coming into Ellis Island (you know, where that inscription actually is, not on the southern border) did so legally.

People coming in that way also assimilated into American culture. Nothing about your (very typical) misuse of the statue of liberty inscription has a thing to do with our actual immigration laws and policies.

Gee, I've seen signs welcoming me to many foreign countries. So if the message is friendly "Welcome to ____!" I guess that means you get to interpret it as iron-clad immigration policy telling you to come on in, never leave, help yourself to jobs, bennies, make angry political demands, get resident tuition and anything else you desire, right?

Well, I issue you my challenge:. GO try it. Pick the country. Go do it.

Lemmie know what other country doesn't toss you out on your ass, let alone bends over to your demands. Look forward to you actually putting up or shutting up.
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There were no restrictions on immigration until 1875. That year you could no longer immigrate to the US if you were a prostitute or criminal. However, prostitutes and criminals still immigrated to the US. Caps on number of immigrants per year didn't happen for another 50 years. So prior to the 1920s if you could make it to the US and weren't a criminal, prostitute, Asian, or polygamist(or you were any of the above but lied and said you weren't), you could legally immigrate to the US unfettered.

The US has a mexican illegal alien problem because 1. we share a border with them and 2. we tell them they have to wait ~20 years to legally immigrate. So yeah they are going to take their chances rather than wait ~20 years.
 
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JEDIYoda said:
again another example that has no bearing on the subject............
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A person tells us illegals should be thankful that they aren't throw out, so they should shut up and sit down and remain second class citizens. The parallels with the Civil Rights era are easily drawn.
 
Jaskalas said:
A person tells us illegals should be thankful that they aren't throw out, so they should shut up and sit down and remain second class citizens. The parallels with the Civil Rights era are easily drawn.
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Except for the fact that illegals are not citizens at all.
 
xj0hnx said:
No, they shouldn't. They should move back to their shit hole country and try to make it better, instead of turning ours into the same kind of shit hole they are trying to escape.
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This is their country. How about we deport those insane Americans (e.g., Tea Party crazies) who actively wish for the destruction of the government and pray for the end of times? Those are people who are turning our country into a shit hole.
 
compuwiz1 said:
Illegals should be able to take no priority over legal citizens. Their demands are brazen. They should be thankful they are not being thrown out on their asses in droves, not be making demands.
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Their citizenship status is with them and the federal government. They are residents of Georgia, so they should get in-state tuition.
 
Zaap said:
I always challenge all the willfully ignorant pro-illegal types to themselves go try what they advocate for illegals in the US, in ANY other country. Heck, especially in Mexico.

Go ahead: go down to Mexico, take your family with you, no visa, no documents, no nothing, set up shop, take jobs, send your kids to their schools, then start demanding they change their laws/language/customs/culture to accommodate you, angrily inject yourself into their political system, demand bennies, amnesty, and any/everything you require to feel right at home be given to you.


When (not if) you get the f thrown in jail, beaten severely and ultimately tossed head first across the border, whine and bitch and snivel about how those mean people broke up your family.

So far, I've had zero takers. Most pro-illegal types can't shut up or put up.
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I don't care what some developing country does. If I went there I would not want to be Mexican. These people are undocumented Americans and want to be documented Americans.
 
Obama is trying to deport as many as he can, but the slave seeking Republicans and George Bush have let in so many!
 
Just like I said- it's a badge of honor for the left to be willfully ignorant on this and many other subjects.

In the very next breath, the same nitwits will be whining at big business again about low wages- which makes the businesses laugh their asses off at the stupidity. Like they want tons of illegals here because they love illegals- it's all about undermining the entire wage system! They don't have to pay an illegal as much as a citizen. It's just a new form of slavery- just without the pretense of owning anyone, or any expense for taking care of anyone for life- (if a slave was worked to death, that was property lost. If an illegal is worked to death, who cares? Get dumbasses to cheerlead for more of them.) The left is all on board for it.

If it were a union situation, it'd be like going on strike, and then dumbasses on the picket line gleefully welcoming in scab labor, cheering for them to cross the line and underline the whole purpose of holding a wage agreement together. "Yes, go on! Cross the line! Offer to do the work for less!! Victory for the people!"

The border is just one big line you're cheering for scab labor to cross, while business and politicians laugh their asses off at how stupid people are. Fucking dumbasses.

STFU before any of you leftwing twits start whining about wages again. Right now. Just STFU already because you're retarded and have no room to even talk. As always, you make your own bed- now lay in it.
 
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CanOWorms said:
They're only illegal under an unjust interpretation of the law.
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Anything a liberal doesnt like is "unjust".

Its the fucking law, and there are reasons for it. If you wanna change the law, call your congressman. The legislative and executive branches are clearly pro-illegal these days.
 
shortylickens said:
Anything a liberal doesnt like is "unjust".

Its the fucking law, and there are reasons for it. If you wanna change the law, call your congressman. The legislative and executive branches are clearly pro-illegal these days.
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The law doesn't need to change. It's just been applied incorrectly.

The 14th Amendment states "[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

You can be naturalized in the United States by a state of enlightenment when you embrace America and Americans. It's natural that someone like that is a naturalized American. Many of these undocumented Americans are mentally Americans (hence naturalized Americans) whereas many documented Americans have never truly been mentally American (merely born), hence the desire among them to see the destruction of the American government and prayer for the End of Days.

It's a matter of the text. The text is clear, but has been perverted by activists wanting to corrupt the Constitution.
 
The issue is not that "illegals" want you to pay for their education, as that's just a logical outcome of the ever expanding State programs. Where the problem lies is with requiring everyone to pay for other people's schooling. Ignoring the root problem while attacking its symptom does not a cure the cancer.

The OP and several others in this thread would be wise to consider this.
 
better idea go to the protest round'em up ship them home, and do away with the anchor baby law... come in legally or don't come at all. With that said it shouldn't take years and thousands of dollars to get here legally.
 
CanOWorms said:
The law doesn't need to change. It's just been applied incorrectly.

The 14th Amendment states "[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

You can be naturalized in the United States by a state of enlightenment when you embrace America and Americans. It's natural that someone like that is a naturalized American. Many of these undocumented Americans are mentally Americans (hence naturalized Americans) whereas many documented Americans have never truly been mentally American (merely born), hence the desire among them to see the destruction of the American government and prayer for the End of Days.

It's a matter of the text. The text is clear, but has been perverted by activists wanting to corrupt the Constitution.
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So when are you gonna throw out all the unenlightened people?
You know, the ones who arent "progressive"?
 
shortylickens said:
So when are you gonna throw out all the unenlightened people?
You know, the ones who arent "progressive"?
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The text clearly includes a "born" category, so those who are not naturally American but born here cannot get thrown out.

Citizenship comes through (1) birth or (2) through a natural state that exists outside of paperwork, queues, and the like.

Respect the Constitution.
 
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