IL to require ID to buy vinegar and drano

[spidey07]

You can't make this shit up...hey, Acidic Acid is still an acid and as such requires ID! Careful now, liquid soap is basic and as such could be concentrated into a caustic substance!

http://qctimes.com/news/local/article_239ea346-3361-11e1-9a15-0019bb2963f4.html

Buying a bottle of Drano won't be the same in Illinois beginning Sunday.

A new state law requires customers purchasing products containing sodium hydroxide, or lye, and other corrosive chemicals to show a legitimate photo ID and to write their name, address and date of birth. And the store clerk will log the time and date of purchase.

Read more: http://www.qctimes.com/news/local/article_239ea346-3361-11e1-9a15-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1iGPuNVpC

 

[Engineer]

The terrorists have won.

 

[silverpig]

Acetic acid.

Of course all acid is acidic acid

 

[spidey07]

Acetic acid.

Of course all acid is acidic acid

Thanks. Been a while.

But the point remains, you can easily concentrate any base or acid with little effort.

Won't somebody think of the corrosive chemicals for the children? Let's see, NaOH...pretty sure I can do lots with that right there.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Wait does this mean McOwen was right?

 

[MotF Bane]

The terrorists have won.

This.

 

[Gintaras]

The terrorists have won.

Terrorists from Bilderberg Club?

 

[Lemon law]

The Spidey link is a little inconclusive, which idiot political party, the dimocrats or republirats pushed this stupidity into law in the State of Illinois?

It may shock and stun and blow the mind of ole spidey if the republirats were the primary villains.

I may even may be able to understand drano as dangerous, but the weak acetic acid in Vinegar is getting really paranoid. What next, ban oranges, grapefruit, and to get really personal, ban Lemon Law?

 

[spidey07]

The Spidey link is a little inconclusive, which idiot political party, the dimocrats or republirats pushed this stupidity into law in the State of Illinois?

It may shock and stun and blow the mind of ole spidey if the republirats were the primary villains.

I may even may be able to understand drano as dangerous, but the weak acetic acid in Vinegar is getting really paranoid. What next, ban oranges, grapefruit, and to get really personal, ban Lemon Law?

I was reading into the "or other corrosive chemicals" in an attempt to make a funny. It looks like vinegar might be safe...for now.

http://thexradio.com/premier/index....-buy-corrosive-products&catid=5:news&Itemid=1

I could not quickly find exact verbage of this incredibly stupid state law. But have no fear, I stocked up on sudifed and have a nice pre-ban stash. Looks like powdered lye should be on my next list of stockpiles.

And no comments on the tags...for shame AT chemists.

 

[Bowfinger]

The Spidey link is a little inconclusive, which idiot political party, the dimocrats or republirats pushed this stupidity into law in the State of Illinois?

It may shock and stun and blow the mind of ole spidey if the republirats were the primary villains.

I may even may be able to understand drano as dangerous, but the weak acetic acid in Vinegar is getting really paranoid. What next, ban oranges, grapefruit, and to get really personal, ban Lemon Law?

Perhaps I missed it, but the only place I saw "vinegar" mentioned was in Spidey's title. The law applies to products that require certain warning labels, and I'm skeptical vinegar qualifies, but ... ?

In any case, a stupid law by overreaching legislators. "Nanny state" is thrown out a lot here, but I think this example actually qualifies. I think the Illinois State Chicken Littles would shit themselves if they knew what I had in my bedroom when I was in school: large bottles of concentrated hydrochloric and sulfuric acid, a pound of metallic sodium and smaller pieces of potassium and phosphorus, a couple of different-sized rolls of magnesium ribbons, a bottle of mercury, and a bunch of "entertaining" pyro chemicals like fine powdered aluminum and iron, and strong oxidants like potassium perchlorate. It was a different time ... yet somehow, no one got hurt.

 

[spidey07]

Bowfinger, I remember mr wizard. He is rolling over in his grave.

But sodium? Danger.

 

[Bowfinger]

Bowfinger, I remember mr wizard. He is rolling over in his grave.

But sodium? Danger.

Sodium? Meh. Potassium is far more reactive. You can handle sodium with your bare (dry) hands and all you get is kind of a greasy feeling. Potassium burns. Anyway, it was fun to cut off a small piece of sodium and toss it in a stream or pond. It would skitter around like a water bug, quickly bursting into flame, and eventually exploding with a small pop. Great for freaking out the unsuspecting.


Edit: and for some reason, I've never seen Mr. Wizard. Wrong age maybe, or just not carried in the area where I grew up?

Edit 2: BTW folks, don't try this at home. By contemporary standards this is a dangerous and reckless thing to do. It is certainly possible to hurt yourself or others. If it isn't actually illegal, it would still probably get you arrested these days. Maybe even get you some sort of terrorism charge. Experimenting with Chemistry is no longer seen as a benign hobby these days.

 

[Balt]

Wait does this mean McOwen was right?

 

[Nebor]

Wait does this mean McOwen was right?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Wait does this mean McOwen was right?

 

[cubby1223]

Illinois also passed a law that legalizes motorcyclists to run red lights.

Is there any wonder why this state is sooooo far in debt?

 

[Argo]

Illinois also passed a law that legalizes motorcyclists to run red lights.

Is there any wonder why this state is sooooo far in debt?

What? Need More on this...

 

[boomerang]

Sen. Mike Jacobs, D-East Moline, said incidents of people throwing acid on victims, including two in Illinois, prompted both chambers of the legislature to vote unanimously for the bill. Gov. Pat Quinn signed the bill into law Aug. 21.

We know who throws acid in the faces of people... This law is clearly discriminatory. If it's wrong to ask people for ID when pulled over in a car, how can ID be asked for when buying drain cleaner? Where's Eric Holder on this issue?

But on the other hand, people looking to buy these products to throw at people will surely think twice now...won't they?

 

[dmcowen674]

IL to require ID to buy vinegar and dranoIllinois to require ID for some cleaner purchases

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You can't make this shit up...hey, Acidic Acid is still an acid and as such requires ID! Careful now, liquid soap is basic and as such could be concentrated into a caustic substance!

http://qctimes.com/news/local/article_239ea346-3361-11e1-9a15-0019bb2963f4.html

Gov. Pat Quinn signed the bill into law Aug. 21.

Son of a bitch.

I bet the Target was testing their Point of Sale software for the new law that day the Cashier said I had to sign for the Vinegar.

She was probably wrong that it was for the Vinegar, it was for the Liquid Plumber that my wife and I got that day.

Every ATer should repent and apologize.

 

[dmcowen674]

Wait does this mean McOwen was right?

I am always right

 

[dmcowen674]

Illinois also passed a law that legalizes motorcyclists to run red lights.

Most lights are set at the default of 5 minutes in Illinois.

They don't have sensors that can tell if there is a car waiting at a light or not so they are all just running on a timer cycle.

There are so many intersections where there are no cars come through during that entire 5 minutes wasting so much gas and time.

Somehow the Motorcycle lobbyists got the Politicians to make a law that they can run the light after 2 minutes of sitting at the light and there is no cars.

Why the fuck they are special and can go through while people in a car have to still waste gas and time is beyond my little brain comprehension.

This is yet another infuriating Revolution tipping point.

 

[Modelworks]

LOL, another law passed by clueless politicians.
Regulating this stuff does nothing, just more PR for politicians. Hydrogen peroxide mixed with vinegar is one of the most toxic things you could throw on someones face are they going to license those too ? What about calcium lime and rust removers, those are very caustic containing oxalic acid, just a few thousand times stronger than vinegar. Don't forget ammonia and bleach , another dangerous mixture.
While they are at it , they better require a signature and id for gasoline, one of the most dangerous things people have used as a weapon.

 

[Modelworks]

Looks like powdered lye should be on my next list of stockpiles.

lye is one of the easiest things to make at home. Burn some wood, take the ashes and put inside a coffee filter, add water, the liquid that drips out is lye.

 

[Doppel]

Mcowned is so retarded he doesn't even realize when he's being mocked and like a good fool ran away in this thread with three more posts about his vinegar iding. There is NOTHING speaking about iding vinegar except spidey's first post, lol

 

[Darwin333]

Mcowned is so retarded he doesn't even realize when he's being mocked and like a good fool ran away in this thread with three more posts about his vinegar iding. There is NOTHING speaking about iding vinegar except spidey's first post, lol

IIRC, the "vinegar ID" post of his was quite a while ago (so don't care enough to search) yet he clearly remembers that he also purchased drain cleaner. He chalks it up to testing of the "point of sale software" when the article says they have to fill out old school paper with actual pens/pencils.