IL to require ID to buy vinegar and drano

[Doppel]

Fortunately, i had some fun with that on your behalf, but then again, i live in a free nation.

LOL, England is leading the charge on first world government oppression (wave, you're on camera). I know a lot of Brits realize this, apparently you're not one of them, but you are a government employee and soldier so I wouldn't expect you to be first in line on such thinking.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I thought you lived in the U.K.

Yeah, so? We have actual liberals in power, all me when that never happens in your nation which will be one every five seconds so ... don't.

Last liberal in the US was in the 1810's and you bloody well know it too.

 

[DrPizza]

A trigger made out of ammonia and iodine? What on Earth makes ammonia tri-iodide a trigger? Sure, it's "contact explosives" - we made it when I was a kid in high school chemistry. Using it as a trigger is retarded.

Furthermore, above, you mentioned mixing hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide. What are you going to make? Warm salt water??

I'll bet you were one of those kids who mixed drain cleaner and aluminum foil in 2-liter bottles to make "bombs." Or, did you steal your mother's baking soda and vinegar?

Tell ya what, JoS, when you get around to dehydrating an ammonia/formaldehyde mix to form a complex, then nitrate that complex, then you can talk. Til then, you're just regurgitating old news articles and trying to sound like you know what you're doing.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

They weren't targeting explosives. They're after acid attacks and similar chemical assaults. (I wonder if pepper spray qualifies?) Of course I suspect such attacks are already illegal in Illinois, but what fun is being a legislator if you can't overreact to some rare tragedy with ill-considered, over-reaching laws ... that won't actually change a damn thing?

As i'm a civilian now, yeah i know, yay me...

I'd go with ammonia/iodine triggers over pepper bombs, you know, just cotton "candy" over white pepper.

Just keep it on the lesser, just paint it on, don't pour it on..

In Afthanistan wed pour it on, you can be pretty confident that no one, NO ONE gets even close when you use that mix.

You think i am a monster of some sorts? I was in a middle of a war zone, they were trying to kill me when they got their junk and legs destroyed by the spike bombs and we really needed to sleep.

We even pissed on them so they would get rid of bacteria...

 

[cybrsage]

Yeah, so? We have actual liberals in power, all me when that never happens in your nation which will be one every five seconds so ... don't.

Last liberal in the US was in the 1810's and you bloody well know it too.

Wow, don't they teach English in the UK?

 

[cybrsage]

Which doesn't lessen the idiocy of any and all Republicans supporting such a monstrosity of a bill.

You are definately correct.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

A trigger made out of ammonia and iodine? What on Earth makes ammonia tri-iodide a trigger? Sure, it's "contact explosives" - we made it when I was a kid in high school chemistry. Using it as a trigger is retarded.

Furthermore, above, you mentioned mixing hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide. What are you going to make? Warm salt water??

I'll bet you were one of those kids who mixed drain cleaner and aluminum foil in 2-liter bottles to make "bombs." Or, did you steal your mother's baking soda and vinegar?

Tell ya what, JoS, when you get around to dehydrating an ammonia/formaldehyde mix to form a complex, then nitrate that complex, then you can talk. Til then, you're just regurgitating old news articles and trying to sound like you know what you're doing.

No, you're wrong, it's retarded to use it becuase with a butterly landing it will blow, and we put some padding on it, from a flower shop, already had a question on this shit.

And no, i go with ANFO, it's simple, cheap and it works, i am well aware of the quick bursting non usable bomb or rathere, it's C4 with close range....

I like T4 with ANFO, i could blow up NYC as it stands with that.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Wow, don't they teach English in the UK?

Piss on you rather retarded person.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Wow, don't they teach English in the UK?

Learn how to read.

That'd help.

I speak five languages, one of them is English.

 

[cybrsage]

Learn how to read.

That'd help.

I speak five languages, one of them is English.

That is the problem, I am trying to read what you write, but it appears that they do not teach English writing skills in the UK. Your sentences are rife with poor punctuation, mispelllings, completely missing words, lack of capitalization, on and on.

It really is pretty bad for someone who has a superiority complex. To have anyone thing you are superior to others, you need to at least master the basics.

Even your rebuttles are pathetically written.

 

[DrPizza]

As i'm a civilian now, yeah i know, yay me...

I'd go with ammonia/iodine triggers over pepper bombs, you know, just cotton "candy" over white pepper.

Just keep it on the lesser, just paint it on, don't pour it on..

In Afthanistan wed pour it on, you can be pretty confident that no one, NO ONE gets even close when you use that mix.

You think i am a monster of some sorts? I was in a middle of a war zone, they were trying to kill me when they got their junk and legs destroyed by the spike bombs and we really needed to sleep.

We even pissed on them so they would get rid of bacteria...

What on Earth are you talking about? It's beginning (to me) to sound like you're making shit up. Others have already implied that you were making stuff up. Go ahead. Find me one resource that states soldiers in Afghanistan were going through copious amounts of Iodine. That would be the most retarded trigger on Earth - a trigger that is extremely unstable. Here: watch this video (in case anyone doesn't know how unstable it is): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KlAf936E90

Yeah, you're going to leave armed booby traps all around you to protect you. Surrrrrrre. If you *did* arm a more powerful explosive using that as a trigger, then anyone attempting to disarm it needs their head examined.

 

[Nebor]

Yes, because the fucking SAS, one of the most elite, well funded & resourced military outfits in the world, is making improvised explosives in Afghanistan. Give me a break.

 

[shiner]

Why is it that every thread JoS posts in turns into a pile of shit?

Oh yeah, because he is annoying as fuck.

Carry on.

 

[cybrsage]

Yes, because the fucking SAS, one of the most elite, well funded & resourced military outfits in the world, is making improvised explosives in Afghanistan. Give me a break.

I heard one of their better ones is to rig a Mentos to drop into a 2 liter of Pepsi as the Taliban walk past...

 

[shiner]

I heard one of their better ones is to rig a Mentos to drop into a 2 liter of Pepsi as the Taliban walk past...

You don't know shit man...he was in Afghanistan, they use Coke over there!

 

[cybrsage]

You don't know shit man...he was in Afghanistan, they use Coke over there!

Well see, I never received spec ops training, so I do not know that stuff.

 

[Nebor]

Well see, I never received spec ops training, so I do not know that stuff.

JoS caught a vacation in another thread if you're expecting him to respond.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

That is the problem, I am trying to read what you write, but it appears that they do not teach English writing skills in the UK. Your sentences are rife with poor punctuation, mispelllings, completely missing words, lack of capitalization, on and on.

It really is pretty bad for someone who has a superiority complex. To have anyone thing you are superior to others, you need to at least master the basics.

Even your rebuttles are pathetically written.

Physician, heal thyself!

 

[DrPizza]

With five gallons of NaOH and some Hydrocloric acid...

Or with NaCl and some ammonia.

If you really want to, you can just use citric acid and baking soda, put it in in a small bearcan and line the indented side with nails.

Or you could just use baking soda and any nitrogenous compound, or whatever you have, if you mix them with high carbon compounds like four or sugar you'lll get a huge fucking blast.

I prefer ammonia and iodine as a soft trigger and ANFO as the load, usually with 200 lbs of nails or bbs.

It's enough to kill everyone in the entire group if spred and cornered right.

Again, I ask, what are you going to do with 5 gallons of sodium hydroxide? (I used to have a 5 gallon bucket of a paste made of sodium hydroxide that was used to remove paint from detailed trim, in places where a heat gun and something to scrape with wasn't practical. You smeared the paste on, applied a specially coated paper, and 24 hours later, just peeled everything off of the wood. Worked fairly good. But then, you had to neutralize the wood (vinegar.) Overall, it was a pain in the ass. I think there's still 4 gallons of the stuff left in a bucket at my old house in the garage.) Anyway, I digress...

JoS, here are some links of people mixing hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide together. It makes... <drum roll> salt water. If you measure very carefully, you can drink the product (though, it'd be incredibly salty, and a pretty foolish stunt.) But, if the ingredients were concentrated highly enough, you'd have to wait for the water to cool down. Mixed rapidly enough, with strong enough components, you might get an "explosion" of steam, but that's about it. And, if your intention was to harm someone, then skip the NaOH and just figure out a way to get the acid on them. And, since I can't think of anyone who would deny this latter statement, I think we can assume you're full of shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VGh0CaLwHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvli4aoQwXQ

NaCl and ammonia?! Wtf are you going to do with that? LOLOLOL! I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume you're drunk or something and left off an O, meaning sodium hypochorite (i.e. bleach.) But, if you were going to mix bleach and NH3, why did you spell out "ammonia"?

Now, on to this part:

If you really want to, you can just use citric acid and baking soda, put it in in a small bearcan and line the indented side with nails.

wtf are you talking about? How are you going to get those ingredients into a beer can & seal the can sufficiently for pressure to build up high enough to make the can burst? All you're doing is causing the vessel to burst from excessive pressure as CO2 is formed.

 

[Nebor]

Again, I ask, what are you going to do with 5 gallons of sodium hydroxide? (I used to have a 5 gallon bucket of a paste made of sodium hydroxide that was used to remove paint from detailed trim, in places where a heat gun and something to scrape with wasn't practical. You smeared the paste on, applied a specially coated paper, and 24 hours later, just peeled everything off of the wood. Worked fairly good. But then, you had to neutralize the wood (vinegar.) Overall, it was a pain in the ass. I think there's still 4 gallons of the stuff left in a bucket at my old house in the garage.) Anyway, I digress...

JoS, here are some links of people mixing hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide together. It makes... <drum roll> salt water. If you measure very carefully, you can drink the product (though, it'd be incredibly salty, and a pretty foolish stunt.) But, if the ingredients were concentrated highly enough, you'd have to wait for the water to cool down. Mixed rapidly enough, with strong enough components, you might get an "explosion" of steam, but that's about it. And, if your intention was to harm someone, then skip the NaOH and just figure out a way to get the acid on them. And, since I can't think of anyone who would deny this latter statement, I think we can assume you're full of shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VGh0CaLwHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvli4aoQwXQ

NaCl and ammonia?! Wtf are you going to do with that? LOLOLOL! I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume you're drunk or something and left off an O, meaning sodium hypochorite (i.e. bleach.) But, if you were going to mix bleach and NH3, why did you spell out "ammonia"?

Now, on to this part:
wtf are you talking about? How are you going to get those ingredients into a beer can & seal the can sufficiently for pressure to build up high enough to make the can burst? All you're doing is causing the vessel to burst from excessive pressure as CO2 is formed.

.... are you the guy from Breaking Bad?

 

[DrPizza]

No, I've never even watched the series. Back to the OP: there are a host of chemicals that you can do far worse things with that Illinois doesn't care if you purchase. It's simply an extension of security theater. Rules made by people who are pretty clueless and who are merely reacting to perceived dangers in ways that really won't have any impact at all.

 

[guyver01]

The law is intended to regulate purchases of substances regulated by the Federal Caustic Poison Act, which went into effect July 12, 1960... but don't let that stop the irrational fear mongering in this thread.

 

[Nebor]

No, I've never even watched the series. Back to the OP: there are a host of chemicals that you can do far worse things with that Illinois doesn't care if you purchase. It's simply an extension of security theater. Rules made by people who are pretty clueless and who are merely reacting to perceived dangers in ways that really won't have any impact at all.

Seems like it might be up your alley. It's about a high school chemistry teacher that finds himself in dire straights and starts cooking meth. He uses his chemistry knowledge along the way to get himself out of jams.

 

[dmcowen674]

Hmmm....so Drano is a "usual storm supply" now? Funny how you didn't mention it in your vinegar thread when asked about what you purchased.

Didn't think anything about it at the time. Had a slow bathroom sink.

The girl cashier is the one said and that thought it was the vinegar that triggered the consent form.

I didn't know anything about this new acid law at the time till now.

I still don't see apologies from the peanut gallery especially the AT sanctioned stalker and liar lopped.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by piasabird
Soap and laundry detergent is also acidic. So Is Soda and Peppers and pickles and fruit!

This law is kind of stupid. Salt is also acidic.

What do you expect from a Democratic Nanny State?

Except the bill was introduced by a Republican, Sparky, and apparently passed unanimously in both their House and Senate. But please don't let such facts interrupt your blind partisan hackery.

All of Illinois is Republican except Chicago itself. Even Obama's former seat went to a Republican. The Republicans are trying to get Chicago to be a separate state.