ponyo
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Maybe you ought to actually try it first before you "pull a VIAN"
- M4H
*looks to VIAN*
OOooooh, you got SERVED.
Seriously though, after a few minor wierd driver bugs and a bunch of lock ups (WTF VPU recover...) I'm never buying an ATI card again. I'm considering trading my 9800 Pro for a 5900 if I could find someone to do it.
I'll gladly trade you my BFG 5900 for your 9800 Pro.
I've got no issuses, however i am able to make my NFS:UG Screen go black when I turn on that motion blur effect. I think my AA/AF is messed.
nitromullet
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This is the case today. ATI does have superior cards, but nVIDIA's drivers are superior and have fewer issues with a greater number of games, as well as far better Linux support. This has sealed the deal for me personally. I always feel like I got screwed over for buying an ATI card simply because I have always had more difficulty with ATI. When ATI cards work, they are fantastic... nVIDIA cards may not knock out the frames per second they way ATI cards do (this year), but they just work. Also, ATI's new "driver-per-month" plan doesn't really help - I don't care if they only come out with one driver a year as long as it works. Their new approach just means that you have to watch their website like a hawk hoping that they have fixed the issue you currently have.
Well said jeff, well said. I reformat, correct, fix, tweak CONSTANTLY... yea its frustraiting but as jeff said its part of custom pc.... get over it =\... you get the pc for cheaper and its a lot more fun.. and faster
nick youre a smart man, i love people that think things through and use vocabulary to make unintelligent people think. it's great when they can't come up with an answer to what you've explained to them. Too advanced
Don't you get frustrated when you have to FORCE PS2 in a game to see new effects? well that usually happens with Nvidia.
Don't you get frustrated when even a 9600XT beats a more expensive 59xx series Nvidia card in DX9?
Don't you get frustrated when you see R300 core beating Nvidia high end with AA/AF enabled?
Don't you get frustrated when ATi's 2xAA is superior to Nvidia's 4x?
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I would, that's why I bought ATi. Still in more than a year and in 2 rigs have had no problems related to drivers. Only had a minor one in NFSU which solved with a driver update.
Both have their pros and their cons don't you think?
Make sure you are running newer drivers, they were broken at first which is why BioWare disabled them. I can state for a fact that they are working now with the latest patch and the Cat 4.2 drivers, but what the hell is up with the shaders in the game? A lot of them look like @ss compared to the XBox which shouldn't happen(in particular, all the water in the fountains on Manaan look like 4bit hacked crap). Playing through the game now and hand't made it to Manaan previously so I'm not sure if it's something the latest patch screwed up or not but it's ugly.
Edit-
You actually like Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness? You must have the worst taste in games on these boards.
My 5950 Ultra looks and plays better in Max Payne 2 at 1280x1024 with max setting than my 9800 Pro did.
Hi.
I know from experience, don't post these types of posts. You will get mobbed by the people with the torches.
I know from experience, don't post these types of posts. You will get mobbed by the people with the torches.
Originally posted by: VIAN
Hi.
I know from experience, don't post these types of posts. You will get mobbed by the people with the torches.
so vian.. how's life w/ your new 9700pro working out now that you've had it a week or so?
Don't you get frustrated when call of duty crashes at random every 15 minutes?
Don't you get frustrated when horizons runs at 15fps 800x600 all low settings?
Don't you get frustrated when Wolfenstein Enemy Territory runs slower on a 9800 than a FX5600?
Don't you get frustrated when nVIDIAs Aniso looks better than ATis?
Don't you get frustrated when Neverwinternights Crashes every time you enable AA in the game?
Don't you get frustrated when the FX5600U stomps the 9800XT in Q3A
Don't you get frustrated with VPU recovery errors?
Don't you get frustrated with drivers that dont properly uninstall and need special 3rd party programs to totally remove?
I can act like a fanboi too, and mine are a lot easier to list
Edit: Don't you get frustrated that the IQ differences in the AA and AF methods require 20x zoom in screenshots to even notice?
I can't believe you'd make a fool of yourself here as well as at B3D Zarich.
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10607
:lol:
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Don't you get frustrated when call of duty crashes at random every 15 minutes?
Don't you get frustrated when horizons runs at 15fps 800x600 all low settings?
Don't you get frustrated when Wolfenstein Enemy Territory runs slower on a 9800 than a FX5600?
Don't you get frustrated when nVIDIAs Aniso looks better than ATis?
Don't you get frustrated when Neverwinternights Crashes every time you enable AA in the game?
Don't you get frustrated when the FX5600U stomps the 9800XT in Q3A
Don't you get frustrated with VPU recovery errors?
Don't you get frustrated with drivers that dont properly uninstall and need special 3rd party programs to totally remove?
I can act like a fanboi too, and mine are a lot easier to list
Edit: Don't you get frustrated that the IQ differences in the AA and AF methods require 20x zoom in screenshots to even notice?
We have discussed this in another post. My anger and overreaction towards him as I believe of McArra's too, was caused because the man is a troll and nothing else. (For obvious reasons)
I still have my 9600 Pro and have had zero issues with it. It's as fast as it needs to be. I guess I haven't even tried a game that hasn't been patched either... I got to Kotor after it had been patched so no problems there. I loaded up the Far Cry Demo, turned everything up and wow! no problems, it all ran super smooth, and it's the best looking game I've ever seen... The graphics are on par with Kotor, although I think they did a better job on the water. The fact that my little 9600 can handle it is a testement to a great card. Sure ATI screws up the drivers from time to time, but it's more than acceptable to me. When Nvidia climes back up I'll be happy to switch brands, but it's about what you produce, not what you're going to produce.
Traded my 5900 for the 9700 Pro - so Zarick knows.
AA takes very small tolls on performance as well as looks much better - I don't even have to use 4x. AF takes smaller tolls on performance and looks better to me, except for a bit more texture aliasing. A lot easier to give driver feedback - nice to know someone thinks of these things. I like the color it puts out - everything looks more natural compared to the 5900.
From my experience, installation was no problem and I have experienced less errors with it. COD had some major dynamic lighting problems with the 5900 and the switch to the 9700 Pro fixed that and also fixed textures flickering and missing. So much for "The Way It's Meant To Be Played."
Since when does a game have to be good for its benchmarks scores to be valid? Was Q3 a good game (note not the engine, the game itself)? Graneted I am not trying to compare the 2 and TR does indeed blow. But TR
AD results are valid and they should only be dismissed if the benchmark itself is in error. Halo shows the same results when you use Custom time demos. But yet people also through out those results because its PC version was a "bad game" (even though for all practical reasoning its the same dam game as the Xbox version which won countless game of the year awards when it was released). Nothing against you just I see this argument all of the time....Zarick-Zarich Talk about owned!
This troll is too lazy to even come up with fresh responses for each forum and just cuts and pastes the same stuff at both forums.
People this lazy don't deserve good videocards. LOL
And just to keep it all straight, he's over at nVnews whining about it too:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25607
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25607
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