If you still think Obama is intelligent . . .

[Macamus Prime]

Are you sure? We're still in a depression, and yet look at the crap he has shoveled out about how many jobs he has saved or created. When in fact he is still down at least 6 million jobs vs when he started. He is just charging a bunch of money on the nation's credit card, and claiming that that desperate crackhead move is putting us on the path to prosperity.

Yes - I'll follow your lead and be sure to weigh the unfounded victory declaration over war as LESS of a problem,... than losing more money.



Bush's depserate crackhead move resulted in more of our men and women being sent to their death; he publicly and grossly underestimated the enemy. And, many more innocent Iraqi civilians died as well.

 

[sm625]

Shows what little you know about history. Bad economic decisions like the ones made over the last 10 years especially are what lead to wars. And I mean major wars, not sand pounding. Millions are going to die due to the decisions made by the crackheads in the whitehouse and congress.

 

[sm625]

So what do you think his options are when faced with an intransigent party in the House of Representatives who have their hand shoved so far up Boehner's ass it is coming out of his mouth?

His options are to veto every piece of legislation that comes through until he gets the bill he wants passed. But the problem is he requested no bill that would actually help the country. No bill to gut the patriot act. No bill to decapitate big pharma. No credit card interest rate cap bill. No bill to immediately remove troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. No bill to invest in LFTR (a superior nuke tech). Nothing but head bobbling from this guy. He could demand whatever he wanted, and use his presidency to get it, but he chose nothing except to hand the bankster criminals a bunch of money, give the drug companies a whole shedload of cash, and nearly destroy the capital markets with his auto union bailout bondholder screwjob. The guy has no idea what he is doing.

 

[HomerJS]

His options are to veto every piece of legislation that comes through until he gets the bill he wants passed. But the problem is he requested no bill that would actually help the country. No bill to gut the patriot act. No bill to decapitate big pharma. No credit card interest rate cap bill. No bill to immediately remove troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. No bill to invest in LFTR (a superior nuke tech). Nothing but head bobbling from this guy. He could demand whatever he wanted, and use his presidency to get it, but he chose nothing except to hand the bankster criminals a bunch of money, give the drug companies a whole shedload of cash, and nearly destroy the capital markets with his auto union bailout bondholder screwjob. The guy has no idea what he is doing.

So how would you have dealt with that Senate fillibuster? They couldn't even get tax loopholes closed for sending jobs overseas because of the GOP

 

[Ausm]

Shows what little you know about history. Bad economic decisions like the ones made over the last 10 years especially are what lead to wars. And I mean major wars, not sand pounding. Millions are going to die due to the decisions made by the crackheads in the whitehouse and congress.

I do agree very bad policy decisions have been made by our Government but they really started occurring 30 years ago and now we are paying the price. There is a reason why there has been no attempts to nail down the crux of the Economic crash and that's because many of the players who had a hand it in are still in Congress.

 

[werepossum]

Have you ever seen The King's Speech? Great movie. Shows that leadership != automatically great public speaker and lack of intelligence.

Also, he has done rather well plenty of times without a prompter in public speaking.

It's just 3 minutes.

It's not like he delivered a "mission accomplished" speech over a war we are still in,... THAT would be pretty fucking stupid and a declaration in lacking intelligence.

Good point. As to Bush's "Mission accomplished" banner and "well done" speech, that was totally justified, as speech to one carrier group. That group had been charged with a mission which it had carried out in an exemplary manner and was going home, having been relieved by another unit. Military units are tasked with specific missions over specific times, not with "go win the war", and deserve their attaboys when those missions are well accomplished.

This is much smarter

Actually it is. Speaking extemporaneously using talking points to spur your memory is by any count smarter than simply reading a speech.

Opportunity cost. We can agree that pretty much anyone can memorize a three-minute speech given time. The question is why would you if you don't need to? Why devote 30m, 1 hour, 2 hours, to memorize a small speech when you have many other higher priority tasks to attend to?

This is true. My point was that no speech was needed. A President should be able to do three minutes introducing one's nominee without memorizing ANYTHING. Presumably President Obama has just studied this man and his accomplishments, as he is nominating him to be an economic adviser.

 

[HomerJS]

Good point. As to Bush's "Mission accomplished" banner and "well done" speech, that was totally justified, as speech to one carrier group. That group had been charged with a mission which it had carried out in an exemplary manner and was going home, having been relieved by another unit. Military units are tasked with specific missions over specific times, not with "go win the war", and deserve their attaboys when those missions are well accomplished.


Actually it is. Speaking extemporaneously using talking points to spur your memory is by any count smarter than simply reading a speech.


This is true. My point was that no speech was needed. A President should be able to do three minutes introducing one's nominee without memorizing ANYTHING. Presumably President Obama has just studied this man and his accomplishments, as he is nominating him to be an economic adviser.

I submit to you the amount of information written on a hand is far less then the contents of a 3 min speech.

 

[Ausm]

His options are to veto every piece of legislation that comes through until he gets the bill he wants passed. But the problem is he requested no bill that would actually help the country. No bill to gut the patriot act. No bill to decapitate big pharma. No credit card interest rate cap bill. No bill to immediately remove troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. No bill to invest in LFTR (a superior nuke tech). Nothing but head bobbling from this guy. He could demand whatever he wanted, and use his presidency to get it, but he chose nothing except to hand the bankster criminals a bunch of money, give the drug companies a whole shedload of cash, and nearly destroy the capital markets with his auto union bailout bondholder screwjob. The guy has no idea what he is doing.

I do agree with some of your post and his laid back approach to Governing has pissed me off many times but do you really think bailing out the Automotive industry almost destroyed capital markets? I think that was one of the SMARTEST things he did it saved millions of jobs. The manufacturing industry in this country has already been gutted enough.

 

[werepossum]

I submit to you the amount of information written on a hand is far less then the contents of a 3 min speech.

Agreed - but then you're talking about a speech of an hour or so based on what is written on one small hand. In other words, she did 99% of her speech extemporaneously. Had she gotten up and simply read what was written on her hand, I'd agree.

 

[werepossum]

I do agree with some of your post and his laid back approach to Governing has pissed me off many times but do you really think bailing out the Automotive industry almost destroyed capital markets? I think that was one of the SMARTEST things he did it saved millions of jobs. The manufacturing industry in this country has already been gutted enough.

I agree. I'm not at all happy with the way he did it - screwing over the bond holders with the power of the Presidency and gifting the company to the unions - but I'm very happy he did it. We've lost far too much of our commons, our manufacturing and engineering base. We need to protect what's left.

 

[Ausm]

I agree. I'm not at all happy with the way he did it - screwing over the bond holders with the power of the Presidency and gifting the company to the unions - but I'm very happy he did it. We've lost far too much of our commons, our manufacturing and engineering base. We need to protect what's left.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Bird222]

You claimed Obama was a "D" student, I am simply telling you he was top 10% in the class which means an A student based on what people who go to HLS say.

it's a simple matter of record. But for some reason they are closed beyond public view. Your obama could bring that to public view. When will he??

Let me guess, HLS was in on the grand conspiracy to get Obama elected too.

 

[Bird222]

http://campaign2012.washingtonexami...-confidential/three-minutes-two-teleprompters



Three minutes. Two teleprompters.

Three minutes, people. The leader of the free world cannot do three minutes without a teleprompter AND a backup teleprompter.

I never dreamed that the Democrats could find someone to make Bush look like a good communicator. Obviously I gave them far too little credit.

Just by way of comparison, Bill Clinton could do a full speech off the cuff if his teleprompter broke. Sarah Palin did almost her entire '08 convention speech from memory because the applause ran very long and the teleprompter operator did not pause the scroll.

He's still infinitely smarter than Bush.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

it's a simple matter of record. But for some reason they are closed beyond public view. Your obama could bring that to public view. When will he??

Honest question for you. What other presidents have proactively released their school records? I'd love to see a list. Bush's was leaked but who actually issued them out?

If the answer is anything other than all of them, why should Obama cater to your whims?

 

[PingviN]

Not one, but two teleprompters?! The man is obviously dumb as a rock and unfit for presidency!

Hell, he probably isn't even born in America. Get him!

 

[Arkaign]

He's still infinitely smarter than Bush.

What does it matter when the results are the same? Obama is Bush, for all practical purposes. All the hypocritical partisans on both the right and the left can't see the forest for the trees. Same puppetmasters, same results, SSDD.

 

[Nemesis 1]

This as all been answered, at great length. The problem is you people ignore the answer since it can't possibly be true because it doesn't fit your meme.

As an example. The actions of a parent can not remove the citizenship rights of a child. But you people ignore that at great lengths to ask these stupid questions.

Really . So the fact that His parents gave him life on the island . Should not give him citezinship because his father wasn't American . When they left the Island . The area of the world he went to gives the Man almost all rights to the Child . Obama took on his step fathers name and must have been adopted to do so . I really don't care were the bankers president comes from . But This man is hiding alot . That there is zero reason for him not to release said info. USA school records for instance.

9/11 could very well have been setup just to see how sheepish the X and pokeyman generations have become. After they pulled that off . Why not insert a blackman who has royal britt. bloodlines.Who is not American . Make a laughing stock of the American public in the eyes of the world. For being down right sheepish.

 

[Chaosblade02]

What does it matter when the results are the same? Obama is Bush, for all practical purposes. All the hypocritical partisans on both the right and the left can't see the forest for the trees. Same puppetmasters, same results, SSDD.

Between his foreign policy, and economic policy, he just picked up right where Bush left off, but still continues to blame Bush for the economy when his economics are the exact same. He should have ran as a Republican.

 

[Arkaign]

Between his foreign policy, and economic policy, he just picked up right where Bush left off, but still continues to blame Bush for the economy when his economics are the exact same. He should have ran as a Republican.

Well yeah. Politicians are always totally full of shit. And the point about running as a Republican is spot on. Republicans and Democrats alike are bought by the same dollars from the same people. The illusion of choice, perpetuated by militarizing the populace into 'sides' that bicker incessantly at each other when the results are the same.

George Carlin said it well, I'll paraphrase :

"They don't give a shit about you".

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Really . So the fact that His parents gave him life on the island . Should not give him citezinship because his father wasn't American . When they left the Island . The area of the world he went to gives the Man almost all rights to the Child . Obama took on his step fathers name and must have been adopted to do so . I really don't care were the bankers president comes from . But This man is hiding alot . That there is zero reason for him not to release said info. USA school records for instance.

9/11 could very well have been setup just to see how sheepish the X and pokeyman generations have become. After they pulled that off . Why not insert a blackman who has royal britt. bloodlines.Who is not American . Make a laughing stock of the American public in the eyes of the world. For being down right sheepish.

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN
Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

What presidents willfuy releasd their school records previously? I mean link to them please. Bush's was leaked. Who released theirs?

 

[ShawnD1]

I submit to you the amount of information written on a hand is far less then the contents of a 3 min speech.

When I give presentations, I often carry a blank piece of paper up to the front. Just having it helps me remember things, and it's something to hold so I'm not scratching my balls or figuring out what to do with my hands. Other times, I would have a piece of paper with words on it like "copper cathode" or "FTIR" to remind me what I'm talking about or where the presentation is going.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Than Public enemy number one. After 10 years at large . Buried at sea so as not to offend the muslim countries . What about the American people who got sucked into a war that was needless. Public enemy no1 should have been put on display . We got NO closer with this reported killing.

 

[Ausm]

Well yeah. Politicians are always totally full of shit. And the point about running as a Republican is spot on. Republicans and Democrats alike are bought by the same dollars from the same people. The illusion of choice, perpetuated by militarizing the populace into 'sides' that bicker incessantly at each other when the results are the same.

George Carlin said it well, I'll paraphrase :

"They don't give a shit about you".

I don't think they are all corrupt just the ranking members are....I hope D:

 

[sm625]

So how would you have dealt with that Senate fillibuster? They couldn't even get tax loopholes closed for sending jobs overseas because of the GOP

Go on tv every day and talk about what they are doing in the senate. Just reaffirm the position that nothing is getting signed until he gets what he wants. If his approval rating goes down then so be it. If we get deadlock then so be it. People will vote for someone who stands firmly for something. But he cant do any of that because he doesnt actually stand for anything the people want. Just imagine what his approval rating would be if he refused to sign any piece of legislation until his pork infested big pharma handout obamacare got passed. There would have been riots. Because the bill was crap. The grassroots media would tear apart anything if it wasnt organic, given enough time and political focus. That is why we do not get presidents who do stuff like this. They serve their masters, not the people. If they actually served the people then they would do exactly as I said. Shut the government down till they get what they want. Every now and then you see something like this happen. But it dont happen often because it only works with popular support on a solid issue... one that cannot be manipulated through misinformation.

 

[zinfamous]

Just by way of comparison, Bill Clinton could do a full speech off the cuff if his teleprompter broke. Sarah Palin did almost her entire '08 convention speech from memory because the applause ran very long and the teleprompter operator did not pause the scroll.

should be easy enough when the original was scribbled on a coloring book.


...but this is one of the lamest most vacuous criticisms I have seen.

isn't it quite possible that he never even saw the speech before he stepped up to the podium to give it? Dude gives several speeches a day, and presidents rarely write more than 20 or so percent of those, no?

one like this is so...regimental and pointless that I'm sure he wouldn't have even reviewed it.