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If you had to choose, would you rather your kid smoke marijuana or cigarettes?

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you know what I find funny, when my friends tell me they think better when they blasted when in fact the only reason they think they do is because the weed is hurting your brain cells and you are forced to think harder in order to think at all(thats why they have slower reaction time).
 
Your not letting yourself see the sense in it. Alcohol carries very little physical addiction and therefore cannot be used to dismiss my statement. Try saying the same thing for heroin or crack where the majority of relapses do occur before physical addiction is overcome.
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You're absolutely wrong. Heroin and crack leaves the system very quickly... usually within 48 hours, and it's not detectable any longer. People who are 'relapsing' while still within the withdrawal phase aren't quitting... they're more likely taking a temporary break because none is available at the moment.

True quitters, more often than not make it through the withdrawal periods. I'm not saying it's easy, it's not, i've been through mild heroin withdrawal myself, but it's not that difficult. It's just sh1tty. When you have people relapsing, it's after all physical dependency, and it's entirely psychological.

Having known hundreds of smokers in my life I can honestly say I know of none who are addicted to pot. Now take a group of a hundred who tried crack and see how many of them became addicted. The numbers given on that site are ignorant. If anybody checks in to a clinic for Marijuana abuse it is because their ignorant parents made them.
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That's because your definition of addiction is that it has to be a physical quality to it. But there are LOTS of pot addicts out there. People that do it EVERYDAY, are pot addicts. Now when they quit, they might not get the shakes, flu, diarrhea, vomitting, migraines, etc that other physical addiction comes with, but the psychological addiction is there. They whine and complain about not having it and needing to get high. Lying to friends and family for the money for it. etc. THAT'S addiction.
 
One is illegal, the other is not. Would i rather have my kid doing something that he could be arrested for or something else.

Hmmm, tough choice. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: BadDaddy
Originally posted by: clamum
I was wondering. Saying smoking weed makes one stupid is just, well, stupid.
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Have you done any intelligent things while being high? :roll:
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Nope. I'm just a stupid stoner.

No way in hell I'm going to argue with you.
 
You can debate on this all you want, I would rather say mary-jane becasue it's a "natural herb", and is not AS bad as cigs, and not to mention not as addicting. But in real life I would say say neither since mary-jane leads to other worse drugs and cigs just kill you before then, or eat all of your money.
 
If I had kids, it wouldn't matter. I would never let them smoke anything no matter what reasons they have or how accepted it is in society (or by this forum). My boot would be up their @$$ before they knew that I had found out. Smoking anything is just stupid. But looking at each one, lets see... cigarettes are more addictive, and can kill you. Pot is more expensive, illegal, more dangerous to procure, and makes you stupid...very stupid. It can screw up your future with posession/use on your criminal record. Given those two options, the only decision would be for me to use my left or right boot in said arsekicking.
 
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Your not letting yourself see the sense in it. Alcohol carries very little physical addiction and therefore cannot be used to dismiss my statement. Try saying the same thing for heroin or crack where the majority of relapses do occur before physical addiction is overcome.
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You're absolutely wrong. Heroin and crack leaves the system very quickly... usually within 48 hours, and it's not detectable any longer. People who are 'relapsing' while still within the withdrawal phase aren't quitting... they're more likely taking a temporary break because none is available at the moment.

True quitters, more often than not make it through the withdrawal periods. I'm not saying it's easy, it's not, i've been through mild heroin withdrawal myself, but it's not that difficult. It's just sh1tty. When you have people relapsing, it's after all physical dependency, and it's entirely psychological.

Having known hundreds of smokers in my life I can honestly say I know of none who are addicted to pot. Now take a group of a hundred who tried crack and see how many of them became addicted. The numbers given on that site are ignorant. If anybody checks in to a clinic for Marijuana abuse it is because their ignorant parents made them.
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That's because your definition of addiction is that it has to be a physical quality to it. But there are LOTS of pot addicts out there. People that do it EVERYDAY, are pot addicts. Now when they quit, they might not get the shakes, flu, diarrhea, vomitting, migraines, etc that other physical addiction comes with, but the psychological addiction is there. They whine and complain about not having it and needing to get high. Lying to friends and family for the money for it. etc. THAT'S addiction.
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OK.. so I'm a work addict, a getting dressed addict... Most people who smoke pot do not do it every day nor do they feel the desire to. The stereotype you are presenting for a Marijuana user is the young kid that gets high on his breaks from working at the record store. This isn't the case. You are confusing a kids stupidity and desire to be cool with the affects of a drug. Again I have never known of anyone being addicted to pot. Why? Because there are no addictive properties to the drug. Can people decide out of stupidity that they like it a lot and that is all they want to do all day. Yes. This is not an effect of the drug but of the users personality. I don't know why I'm trying to explain. It is obvious you want a beer so bad your not going to listen.

Edit: Also people can allow pot to consume too large a part of their life and neglect other things such as school. The same can be said for the computer, video games, and tv. These people are irresponsible and not addicted.
 
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Your not letting yourself see the sense in it. Alcohol carries very little physical addiction and therefore cannot be used to dismiss my statement. Try saying the same thing for heroin or crack where the majority of relapses do occur before physical addiction is overcome.
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You're absolutely wrong. Heroin and crack leaves the system very quickly... usually within 48 hours, and it's not detectable any longer. People who are 'relapsing' while still within the withdrawal phase aren't quitting... they're more likely taking a temporary break because none is available at the moment.

True quitters, more often than not make it through the withdrawal periods. I'm not saying it's easy, it's not, i've been through mild heroin withdrawal myself, but it's not that difficult. It's just sh1tty. When you have people relapsing, it's after all physical dependency, and it's entirely psychological.

Having known hundreds of smokers in my life I can honestly say I know of none who are addicted to pot. Now take a group of a hundred who tried crack and see how many of them became addicted. The numbers given on that site are ignorant. If anybody checks in to a clinic for Marijuana abuse it is because their ignorant parents made them.
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That's because your definition of addiction is that it has to be a physical quality to it. But there are LOTS of pot addicts out there. People that do it EVERYDAY, are pot addicts. Now when they quit, they might not get the shakes, flu, diarrhea, vomitting, migraines, etc that other physical addiction comes with, but the psychological addiction is there. They whine and complain about not having it and needing to get high. Lying to friends and family for the money for it. etc. THAT'S addiction.
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When i arrived in Kosovo there was one guy that had been smoking pot for a few years who went through pretty horrible withdrawal with epeleptic cramps and severe shakes, he was, of course, discharged and sent home.

The problem that people don't realize is that it stays in your system for a very long time, so even if you don't smoke every day you will have it in your system and that will make your system used to it which will leave a trace in your brain. Since it is also stored in the brain for a longer period of time it doesn't take much to figure out that it will affect the brain over a period of time.
 
Pot, its not nearly as a addictive. I want some very good links that prove that responsible stoners exsist. I'd also like as many (non-goverment sponsered) links that show the hazordous effects of pot.
 
Speaking of smoking, Linsay Lohan's picture should show up in the dictionary next to jailbait 😀

Sorry, couldn't resist 😉
 
This is a very easy question....pot...

A lot of my friends smoke pot and none of them are addicted. The only way you can say pot is addictive is that you like to do it so you want to keep doing. Just like if you like making out with your girl friend..you dont want to stop so you keep doing it. My friends have had to stop for reasons...like jobs and such and they do fine without it. no physical problems are mental problems.

I am not saying that using too much of it can be bad. I also have friends that use too much of it and you can see the effects. I do believe that if you smoke too much of it you will lose some memory and generally will become lazy. But if you drink too much.....you wont get anywhere either so you cant really say pot is that bad...

Other countries are also making it legal, i imagine some day pot will be legal in the US..it will just take a while. It really doesnt make anysense why it isnt legal. Its no worse the alchohol and if the Gov were to control it they could make a large amount of cash on it.

Cigs are horrible iw ould never touch them. They smell like crap and dont do anything for ya lol.

Neither are good for kids tho...if your are still growing and smoking pot or cigs i really dont think thats good for you at all....not like its good for you in the first place.

The world has much more serious problems then weed. The cops shouldnt be worried about a few stoners who are sitting in the park smoking. I think they should be watching out for more serious things then that. Those stoners arnt going anywhere lol
 
People keep saying that pot will get you thrown in the slammer, but that definitely varies with local law enforcement.

Everywhere I've lived, if you're stupid enough to get caught with a personal amount of weed (maybe an eighth to a quarter oz) you might AT WORST get it taken away and get a ticket. Even a friend of mine who the police found with an ounce didn't get put in the slammer. Maybe it's because he is an upstanding citizen and a great student, who is just carrying out a few "youthful indescretions" but who knows?

I'd say that responsible peronsal ownership and usage is pretty safe from a legal standpoint.
 
You guys that advocate pot seem to forget that in some places you can get in substantially more trouble for smoking pot than smoking cigs underage. It just seems stupid to take that chance. Of course I don't agree with that, and if you live in Cali or similar places, go for it 😉
 
Originally posted by: Kango
People keep saying that pot will get you thrown in the slammer, but that definitely varies with local law enforcement.

Everywhere I've lived, if you're stupid enough to get caught with a personal amount of weed (maybe an eighth to a quarter oz) you might AT WORST get it taken away and get a ticket. Even a friend of mine who the police found with an ounce didn't get put in the slammer. Maybe it's because he is an upstanding citizen and a great student, who is just carrying out a few "youthful indescretions" but who knows?

I'd say that responsible peronsal ownership and usage is pretty safe from a legal standpoint.
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Yeah, well maybe you lived a lot of places but definitely not where I do! I'd be so happy if that was all that would happen if caught with a personal sack. When you live in a town that has no real serious crimes, the many police will harass the teens in cars looking for weed.
 
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