If you had irrefutable proof Jesus did not exist, what would you do with it?

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dighn

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Originally posted by: ctark
Some science is okay. But its when they start pulling things out of their asses it starts to get stupid. But when they start talking about our origin and how old things are they dont even have a clue. They change their mind all the time whereas the bible has remained constant throughout time. Things happen for a reason, people die for a reason. God has a chosen time for you on this earth, its not how you die, its just when. If God made us then I guess it gives him the right to destroy us does it not? You wont catch me praying for a levee not to break. God has a will and I'm just gonna accept it for what it is, even if it takes my life or someone close to me.

the flaw in your logic is assuming "God" exists.
 

whistleclient

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Originally posted by: ctark
Some science is okay. But its when they start pulling things out of their asses it starts to get stupid. But when they start talking about our origin and how old things are they dont even have a clue. They change their mind all the time whereas the bible has remained constant throughout time. Things happen for a reason, people die for a reason. God has a chosen time for you on this earth, its not how you die, its just when. If God made us then I guess it gives him the right to destroy us does it not? You wont catch me praying for a levee not to break. God has a will and I'm just gonna accept it for what it is, even if it takes my life or someone close to me.

are you trolling? or are you seriously one of those people that believes dinosaur fossils were planted by God?

 

FeuerFrei

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If Jesus didn't exist, well, we're screwed. Our sins are unpaid for and we'll get nowhere even trying not to sin. Basically I'd be really afraid to die because then I'd be off to eternal torment.

Of course I would tell everybody. So they could resign themselves to their fate.
 

JulesMaximus

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While it would be fun to personally throw it in the face of all the holy rollers personally I'd probably just sell it to the highest bidder and watch the carnage from my own personal island in the south pacific.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
If I found out Jesus never existed I would probably kill a few people that I hate. Yes I am a bad person.

Jesus saves you from the law? :confused:
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: ctark
Some science is okay. But its when they start pulling things out of their asses it starts to get stupid. But when they start talking about our origin and how old things are they dont even have a clue. They change their mind all the time whereas the bible has remained constant throughout time. Things happen for a reason, people die for a reason. God has a chosen time for you on this earth, its not how you die, its just when. If God made us then I guess it gives him the right to destroy us does it not? You wont catch me praying for a levee not to break. God has a will and I'm just gonna accept it for what it is, even if it takes my life or someone close to me.

Have you ever heard of the scientific method? Scientists generally don't pull stuff out of their arses. They'll research something for years and then publish what they've found.

The bible has not remained constant throughout time. If you look at the Catholic version as opposed to the Protestant and Orthodox versions, you'll notice a few differences. The interpretations in the bible haven't remained even close to constant either. There was a time when the church deemed the earth was the center of the solar system and the universe.
 

ctark

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The bible is the same. Sure there are people who have tried to add to it. People interpret it different but thats always gonna be a given. I guess since i support the creation theory i must be trolling. No i dont believe dinosaur bones were planted by God. I do believe its "possible" dinosaurs roamed the earth the same time as man. Why does everybody talk about science all the time... and not about prophecy? Why be so one sided. There are things that have been stated in the bible that will happen... and some already have happend.

Man is flawed, everything we have created is flawed. It will never be perfect so scientists will keep changing their minds about what happend in the past. So science is flawed. If we cant explain something, then we just make something up until we can.
 

her209

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I'd do all the bad things that I was told not to do or I wouldn't get into "Heaven".
 

Powermoloch

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I would tell, why keep it a secret?

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
nothing. faith is synonymous with ignorance.

truth is relative. do you honestly think christians would honestly drop their belief and cease to exist?

this applies to all religions, not christianity in particular.


ROFLBBQSAUCE!!!! you make me laugh sir :)

proof?
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: RichardE
I would destroy it, least Christianity fails leaving muslim extremists to rule the world. Its like the worst of two evils.


If Jesus was proven to have never existed, Islam would theoretically collapse alongside Christianity although in reality denial would be so strong in both camps that neither would be phased by concrete evidence. Religion is all a myth, anyone with an iota of intelligence can understand it was created as a guiding principal for humans and not to be taken literally.
 

whistleclient

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Originally posted by: ctark
The bible is the same. Sure there are people who have tried to add to it. People interpret it different but thats always gonna be a given. I guess since i support the creation theory i must be trolling. No i dont believe dinosaur bones were planted by God. I do believe its "possible" dinosaurs roamed the earth the same time as man. Why does everybody talk about science all the time... and not about prophecy? Why be so one sided. There are things that have been stated in the bible that will happen... and some already have happend.

Man is flawed, everything we have created is flawed. It will never be perfect so scientists will keep changing their minds about what happend in the past. So science is flawed. If we cant explain something, then we just make something up until we can.

Educate yourself:


"Christians maintain that the difference between their religion and all other is that theirs is based on history, all others are based on myth. This is a convenient fiction that has allowed the Christian religion to evangelize one quarter of the world population. Some research into this claim shows that most of the incidents of the Old Testament can be found in the myths and legends of older cultures. The creation, the flood, the tower of Babel, the trials of Abraham, even the miracles of Moses are Jewish adaptations of older Pagan myths. Biblical scholars date the earliest of the Old Testament writing around 960 B.C.E. All of the Pagan myths quoted are much, much older.

We now have the strange situation were our Pagan myths were copied, rewritten and told back to us to show how poorly we uneducated Pagans understand God's will.

All of us are familiar with the story of Noah, but few of us has heard the Chaldean myth of the flood:

The deity Cronos appeared to him (Xisuthrus) in a vision and warned him that upon the fifteenth day of the month Desius there would be a flood, by which mankind would be destroyed. He therefore enjoined him to build a vessel, and take with him into it his friends and relations, and to convey on board everything necessary to sustain life, together with all the different animals, both birds and quadrupeds, and trust himself fearlessly to the deep. After the flood had been upon the earth, and was in time abated, Xisutrus sent out birds from the vessel. He therefore made an opening in the vessel, and upon looking out found that it was stranded upon the side of some mountain.1

The legends of Moses leading the children of Israel out of Egypt is a retelling of the story of Bacchus, the Sun-god:

Bacchus had a rod with which he performed miracles, and which he could change into a serpent at pleasure. he passed the Red Sea, dry shod, at the head of his army. By the same mighty wand, he drew water from the rock, and wherever they marched, the land flowed with wine, milk and honey."

etc...

 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: ctark
Some science is okay. But its when they start pulling things out of their asses it starts to get stupid. But when they start talking about our origin and how old things are they dont even have a clue. They change their mind all the time whereas the bible has remained constant throughout time. Things happen for a reason, people die for a reason. God has a chosen time for you on this earth, its not how you die, its just when. If God made us then I guess it gives him the right to destroy us does it not? You wont catch me praying for a levee not to break. God has a will and I'm just gonna accept it for what it is, even if it takes my life or someone close to me.

This guy is a GREAT example. If you had 100% proof positive that Jesus did not exist, I can already hear his answer, "That is the Devil's work and is trying to lead me astray." :roll: What is amazing to me is that you are not considered a lunatic when you talk about magic people.

There is nothing you can do with these people.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: ctark
Some science is okay. But its when they start pulling things out of their asses it starts to get stupid. But when they start talking about our origin and how old things are they dont even have a clue. They change their mind all the time whereas the bible has remained constant throughout time. Things happen for a reason, people die for a reason. God has a chosen time for you on this earth, its not how you die, its just when. If God made us then I guess it gives him the right to destroy us does it not? You wont catch me praying for a levee not to break. God has a will and I'm just gonna accept it for what it is, even if it takes my life or someone close to me.

This guy is a GREAT example. If you had 100% proof positive that Jesus did not exist, I can already hear his answer, "That is the Devil's work and is trying to lead me astray." :roll: What is amazing to me is that you are not considered a lunatic when you talk about magic people.

There is nothing you can do with these people.
By his logic, it is morally right for parents to kill their children.