If you don't want to live HOA rules, don't live in one

alkemyst

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I feel bad for this guy's neighbors.

Monster truck property nears end of road
By MITRA MALEK

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Thursday, April 10, 2008

ROYAL PALM BEACH ? A young man who regularly ignores rules he doesn't want to follow might not be able to get around this official decision.

A panel of circuit judges has given a green light for Royal Palm Beach to foreclose on a Saratoga Pines property best known for the Ford F-650 monster truck that sat in its driveway - plus the sidewalk and part of the lawn.

Jeff George said he plans to keep fighting the village. "If I do lose, I'll sue the village," the 27-year-old said.

Royal Palm Beach doesn't particularly want to foreclose on the home, Mayor David Lodwick said. Instead, it wants the property to be in good condition and wants $15,125 in overdue fines. The village council will decide what to do at upcoming meetings.

"We're not looking to be at war with any of our residents," Lodwick said. "It was a matter of him wanting to say, 'I'm going to do what I want to do.' Unfortunately, that's not how our society works."

The 12,000-pound truck wasn't the only problem at 178 Monterey Way. For at least a year trash piled up outside the house, from food wrappers to rubber tires. The lawn got so high, neighbors cut it with their own mowers. The unfenced pool grew green with algae. Eventually, things got bad enough for the county health department to step in.

George, who was born in Royal Palm Beach and grew up in Wellington, said the village has become "stuck up."

"Who cares if there are tires outside?" said George, who views himself as living "on the edge" and admits he isn't good at following rules.

He once joked to a Palm Beach Post reporter that, when he learned his neighbors hated his giant - and loud - truck, he cut the tailpipe so the sound would boom louder.

Last year, he told the Post he owned several businesses. At least four of his health supplement companies have since been dissolved, state records show. George says the just renamed the companies but declined to elaborate.

George's twin brother, Christopher, owns the home in Royal Palm Beach. They are sons of John Paul George, owner of Majestic Homes & Realty, a custom-home builder in several Florida counties.

The house has been empty since early this year, a peaceful welcome for neighbors. The outside has been in decent shape recently, they said. On Wednesday, the most unsightly vision was a weedy lawn - short-cropped, though - and dried shrubs.

George declined to say where he moved - only that he's not in Royal Palm Beach.

"It's socialist," he said. "All they want is money."

Palm Beach County Circuit Court issued its opinion on March 19.
 

SAWYER

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Stupid HOA, but people who choose to live in them should accept these asshattery that comes with it.
 

pstylesss

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I hate HOAs but if he was doing all the article said he was being ridiculous. It's not like they tried to fine him like they did with my family for putting a basketball hoop in our own driveway. Idiots.
 

SAWYER

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Yeah this guy is in the wrong but overall people in HOA are whinny and nosey shitheads.
 

SpunkyJones

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I have no use for HOA's, but if you choose to live there, you need to understand the rules/environment. I wouldn't live in one if I could help it, but I have little sympathy for idiots who move in and are shocked that the rules apply to them.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Sawyer
Stupid HOA, but people who choose to live in them should accept these asshattery that comes with it.

It is virtually impossible to find a house in my area that is not part of an HOA. You have to be fortunate enough to either find a home built before these psuedo govermments became popular or buy a piece of land someplace not covered by one and have a house built on it.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
"It's socialist," he said. "All they want is money."

No, they want you to stop annoying the shit out of the people who have to live next door to you douchebag.

Some HOAs are power-tripping busybodies, but this guy sounds like a model of the kind of idiot they were created to counter.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
"It's socialist," he said. "All they want is money."

No, they want you to stop annoying the shit out of the people who have to live next door to you douchebag.

Some HOAs are power-tripping busybodies, but this guy sounds like a model of the kind of idiot they were created to counter.

Yup.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
"It's socialist," he said. "All they want is money."

No, they want you to stop annoying the shit out of the people who have to live next door to you douchebag.

Some HOAs are power-tripping busybodies, but this guy sounds like a model of the kind of idiot they were created to counter.

Agreed. I live in an HOA area and thank god I don't have dickhead neighbors like this guy. That would just be a nightmare...
 

Vette73

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I do not see where it says he lived in a HOA?

This was the town/health department going after him.
 

nakedfrog

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The 12,000-pound truck wasn't the only problem at 178 Monterey Way. For at least a year trash piled up outside the house, from food wrappers to rubber tires. The lawn got so high, neighbors cut it with their own mowers. The unfenced pool grew green with algae. Eventually, things got bad enough for the county health department to step in.
If it's bad enough for county to step in, it doesn't matter if you're in an HOA or not. I don't think any neighborhood appreciates that.
 

bsobel

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I love how everyone complains about the HOA while happy they are dealing with this obviously problem neighbor. Can't really have it both ways, either you think the HOA should have acted or not. Kinda stupid to say 'HOA sucks, but not in this case'.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: bsobel
I love how everyone complains about the HOA while happy they are dealing with this obviously problem neighbor. Can't really have it both ways, either you think the HOA should have acted or not. Kinda stupid to say 'HOA sucks, but not in this case'.

There was no HOA in this case. This was the town. This is the reaosn why i say there is no real need for a HOA as there are already guidelines cities/towns have in place to cover this. HOAs just let people that have nothing better to do then make your life a hell.
 

TuxDave

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So a question about HOAs. How do the people making the decisions on the rules and HOA money usages get there? Is it elected from the residents or the owner of the property is the only one that makes decisions.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: bsobel
I love how everyone complains about the HOA while happy they are dealing with this obviously problem neighbor. Can't really have it both ways, either you think the HOA should have acted or not. Kinda stupid to say 'HOA sucks, but not in this case'.

There was no HOA in this case. This was the town. This is the reaosn why i say there is no real need for a HOA as there are already guidelines cities/towns have in place to cover this. HOAs just let people that have nothing better to do then make your life a hell.

Things have to be really bad for the city to step in generally. Personally, I don't have a problem living in an HOA community and I've said this before on these forums.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: bsobel
I love how everyone complains about the HOA while happy they are dealing with this obviously problem neighbor. Can't really have it both ways, either you think the HOA should have acted or not. Kinda stupid to say 'HOA sucks, but not in this case'.

There was no HOA in this case. This was the town. This is the reaosn why i say there is no real need for a HOA as there are already guidelines cities/towns have in place to cover this. HOAs just let people that have nothing better to do then make your life a hell.

Then the post title really doesn't make alot of sense ;)
 

Svnla

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I am not a fan of the HOAs but look at that guy's house....

"The 12,000-pound truck wasn't the only problem at 178 Monterey Way. For at least a year trash piled up outside the house, from food wrappers to rubber tires. The lawn got so high, neighbors cut it with their own mowers. The unfenced pool grew green with algae. Eventually, things got bad enough for the county health department to step in"

How do you feel if you have a next door neighbor like this guy? Talk about bad neighbor.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: TuxDave
So a question about HOAs. How do the people making the decisions on the rules and HOA money usages get there? Is it elected from the residents or the owner of the property is the only one that makes decisions.

Depends on how it was set up.

The one i use to live in was the members were placed there by the builder. Then the members would nominate new people to replace them. That way things never really changed and they just did this over and over.

Some go by voting but most don;t vote so only the ones that have nothing better to do vote and get on the board.

Here are several stories why no one should ever think a HOA is to protect THEM.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
"It's socialist," he said. "All they want is money."

No, they want you to stop annoying the shit out of the people who have to live next door to you douchebag.

The only douchebags are ones that want to tell somebody what to do with THIER property.

That's socialism/marxism and a HOA is a perfect example of this nonsense.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Svnla
I am not a fan of the HOAs but look at that guy's house....

"The 12,000-pound truck wasn't the only problem at 178 Monterey Way. For at least a year trash piled up outside the house, from food wrappers to rubber tires. The lawn got so high, neighbors cut it with their own mowers. The unfenced pool grew green with algae. Eventually, things got bad enough for the county health department to step in"

How do you feel if you have a next door neighbor like this guy? Talk about bad neighbor.

Quite simple, you talk to them and ask nicely or offer to help them clean up. The way a real community is supposed to work.