If they ever outlaw talking on a cell phone while driving...

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KingofCamelot

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: KingofCamelot
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Seriously, there has never been a problem. Nobody got hurt when I talked on my cell phone while driving today. Not a soul. Yet the state now wants $101 each time I do it...

You seriously sound just like a drunk driver trying to justify his actions. Just because you haven't caused a crash yet doesn't mean its not impairing your ability to drive.

So if I wreck then it's my fault...and I will pay the consequences. But we're talking about a victimless crime here...

Are you ****** high?
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: KingofCamelot
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Seriously, there has never been a problem. Nobody got hurt when I talked on my cell phone while driving today. Not a soul. Yet the state now wants $101 each time I do it...

You seriously sound just like a drunk driver trying to justify his actions. Just because you haven't caused a crash yet doesn't mean its not impairing your ability to drive.

So if I wreck then it's my fault...and I will pay the consequences. But we're talking about a victimless crime here...

WRONG

Say you cause a collision because you were distracted while talking on a cell phone. The other party is injured and/or dies as a result. They just became a victim, and you could be possibly charged with vehicular homicide.

PERFECT EXAMPLE!!

Washington State's Statute on vehicular homicide
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'll just text message and so will everyone else. That way we won't get caught. Of course, the roads will be less safe since you have to look down to see what you are writing...but the law makers don't seem to care about that. They're only interested in finding new ways to write tickets.

:)

I was about to post something about how fvcking stupid it is what you posted, but then I realized who posted it... And that speaks for itself.

:thumbsup:
 
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What makes this so ridiculous is that it won't solve anything. The problem with talking on the phone (or doing anything actually) isn't the use of your hands, it's the focus of your brain. So long as you're concentrating on the conversation instead of driving you're still not being safe.
 

UncleWai

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God damn pussy Washington state, taking away our freedom to kill others while driving under ignorance.
 

CFster

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: BUTCH1
I can see someone catching you texting just before you crash into their car then pulling you out
of your car and beating the living crap out of you, I know I would..

I can see a retarded 16 year old girl driving a car and hitting somebody because she sucks at driving. A crash is a crash no matter what causes it.

You (Mr. Pizza delivery guy), and the 16 year old girl are precisely why the government steps in and enforces laws "for our own good". Because a good portion of the populace is just plain stupid and will hurt themselves or somebody else. I just hope I'm not coming the other way when your text messaging ass crosses the double yellows. Moron.

On another note, I never understood some people's need to be constantly connected with that pacifier plugged into their ear. Once I leave work my cell pretty much gets shut off. I just don't have the need. And I've never text messaged - don't know how to do it. If somebody needs me they can leave a voice mail. Works for me, and I run an entire dept at a 2.5 billion dollar a year corporation.
 

Mo0o

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so instead of being a safe and responsible driver, you're going to be doing something even more dangerous than what was outlawed... nice.
 
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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
What makes this so ridiculous is that it won't solve anything. The problem with talking on the phone (or doing anything actually) isn't the use of your hands, it's the focus of your brain. So long as you're concentrating on the conversation instead of driving you're still not being safe.

Yup, I know people who I've driven with who lose all concentration when they're talking to me while driving and it's scary.

Also, even while driving without talking on a cell phone, I usually use one hand, so that's not the part that makes it unsafe.

Something needs to be done, because it's noticeable how much worse people drive while talking on cell phones and the odds are it won't be themselves they hurt, but the cars swerving out of their dumbass way when they change lanes without checking their blind spot or stop short, but I'm sure I haven't heard a good idea yet.
 

BlancoNino

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I still can't believe all of the personal attacks and insults and the downright immaturity of this thread.

How is text messaging worse? There is no "conversation"...just another task at hand while driving...like drinking a beverage, fiddling with the radio, etc...

BTW, isn't driving bad already illegal? Isn't swerving illegal? Isn't slamming on the brakes illegal? Isn't crossing the double yellow line illegal? Talking on a cell phone doesn't cause those crimes...doing those crimes causes those crimes and there are already laws against them. Not once have I advocated sloppy driving. If you can't talk and drive at the same time, it's not a good idea and you will be punished for your sloppy driving.
 

mcvickj

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I still can't believe all of the personal attacks and insults and the downright immaturity of this thread.

How is text messaging worse? There is no "conversation"...just another task at hand while driving...like drinking a beverage, fiddling with the radio, etc...

BTW, isn't driving bad already illegal? Isn't swerving illegal? Isn't slamming on the brakes illegal? Isn't crossing the double yellow line illegal? Talking on a cell phone doesn't cause those crimes...doing those crimes causes those crimes and there are already laws against them. Not once have I advocated sloppy driving. If you can't talk and drive at the same time, it's not a good idea and you will be punished for your sloppy driving.


You must be pretty dense if you can't see the difference between the two. Changing the station on the radio or adjusting the climate controls doesn't require near the attention as texting someone. If the auto your driving is your daily driver you should have all of the controls memorized. You wouldn't even have to take your eyes off the road.

I would be much much more afraid of someone moron trying to text someone vs. talking on their cell phone. At least their eyes are on the road.

 

KoolAidKid

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Originally posted by: loki8481
studies have proven pretty conclusively that talking to someone on the phone while driving, even with a hands-free phone, is a pretty significant distraction.

it's pretty retarded... is what you have to talk about really THAT important that you'd risk getting into an accident for it?

:thumbsup:

I have never understood why hands free devices are considered the solution to the cell phone problem. You are correct, studies have shown that drivers are just as distracted and error-prone when using a hands-free device.
 

Fingolfin269

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OP, why would everyone start text messaging because of this law? Wouldn't they just buy hands-free kits?

I wish they would do this in TN. It seems like every time someone is driving like an idiot there is a cell phone in their hand. Coincidence? Doubtful.
 

oogabooga

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Isn't it law in CA to have to be on a handsfree? Or is that next year?

PS: Driving isn't a right, it's a privilege. hence... you can't lose freedoms you don't have?
 

Aikouka

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In my opinion, there's a fairly big difference between texting and drinking a beverage, adjusting the radio or climate controls. This comes from my own personal experience from adjusting the aforementioned controls and actually texting once while driving. I don't recommend people do it at all.

My new car has bluetooth integrated in it and I'm happy with that. The car also has radio controls integrated into the steering wheel and automatic temperature control to help alleviate the issues that you mentioned with those being a distraction too. Now I just get to put up with annoying passengers :roll:.

Oh and you can drink a beverage without even taking your eyes off the road. Just remember as sissy as it may look, use a straw :p.
 

nweaver

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I'm not a great driver (I'm interrupt driven, so whatever caught me attention last pretty much has 90% of my attention...). A hands free kit doesn't really help that at all.

I don't talk on the cell phone when I drive, unless it's absolutely required. Too bad the rest of my crappy driving buddies can't figure this out....

the other thing is, I'm a bad driver, so I slow down, and allow a decent gap for following (no tailgating) so that when I DO screw up, it won't kill me. Haven't had an accident in years, or even been pulled over in like 6 years.
 

Jules

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I still can't believe all of the personal attacks and insults and the downright immaturity of this thread.

How is text messaging worse? There is no "conversation"...just another task at hand while driving...like drinking a beverage, fiddling with the radio, etc...

BTW, isn't driving bad already illegal? Isn't swerving illegal? Isn't slamming on the brakes illegal? Isn't crossing the double yellow line illegal? Talking on a cell phone doesn't cause those crimes...doing those crimes causes those crimes and there are already laws against them. Not once have I advocated sloppy driving. If you can't talk and drive at the same time, it's not a good idea and you will be punished for your sloppy driving.
Put the crack pipe down and STEP AWAY.
 

DivideBYZero

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May 18, 2001
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1) OP is a tool for driving and texting.
2) Handsfree kits are roughly 0.02c now.
3) Wait until your stupid 30 minute journey is done. Nothing is so important that you can risk killing me or others to communicate it with another dumbass.
4) ????
5) Profit.
 

halik

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Dumbass law. Just make the fines for accidents 10X as much if were on the phone when you caused the accident. That way idiots that cannot handle talking and driving will naturally filter themselves out.

edit: Texting and driving is bad because it requires that you look away from the road for extended periods of time.
 

BeauJangles

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OP, I cannot believe your cavalier attitude. By engaging in text-messaging while driving as some sort of 'rebellion' against the man strikes me as negligent at best. Texting, if anything is worse than being on the phone, which, in turn, is worse than adjusting a radio. Each requires MORE attention for a longer period of time than the previous. That attention should be paid to the road, not to a conversation with a friend, family member, or business associate. Glancing at your phone every few seconds means taking your eyes away from the road, closing out your other senses to what is going on around you and, in a car moving at 60 - 70 mph that can have deadly consequences for you, or worse, someone else who was minding their own business.
 

waggy

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I hope the OP does text while driving and hits a fvcking pole or bridge.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
How about....I don't know.....hands free devices? They should invent them.

Is it the lack of free hands or the distraction of talking to somebody on the phone? I drive one-handed all the time.


It is the talking to someone. Don't have a link, but I do believe a recent study showed that there was no significant difference in driver awareness when using a hand-free device and holding the phone. The difference, was being on the phone or not.

Honestly, I hate getting behind someone who is on the phone. You can spot them a mile away. Speed fluctuates, veering in their lane, ...
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Shawn
Hopefully you'll kill yourself sending text messages but don't hurt anyone else in the process.

Why is that? Cell phone use while driving is a wonderful convenience. Travel salesman are able to fit in more customers for sure. If they spend an average of dealing with 10 customers a day with an average of 5-10 minutes on the phone WHILE driving...then they are able to do much more and fit in more customers.


this arguemnt is retarded. Business success should not come at the expense of everyone's safety. "Business" was doing fine before cell phones, and while they now help tremendously, pulling over to chat is not going to hurt business at all.