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iroast

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You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.
 

silverpig

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Anyone see the mythbusters comparing drunk driving with cell phone driving?

I just caught the end of it, but they said that while the cell phone driver and the drunk driver failed the same number of tests, the cell phone driver failed them worse. Of course, you can put down your cell phone in a way that you can't just stop being drunk. The radio issue doesn't compare because it takes about 2 seconds to turn up/down the volume whereas you talk on your cell phone for much longer.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.

I also think it's a poor comparison because, at least from my experience, I am far less distracted when talking to someone in the car versus someone on a phone. I don't know why, it doesn't make much sense, but it's 100% true.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.

Ever heard of bluetooth?
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I still can't believe all of the personal attacks and insults and the downright immaturity of this thread.

How is text messaging worse? There is no "conversation"...just another task at hand while driving...like drinking a beverage, fiddling with the radio, etc...

BTW, isn't driving bad already illegal? Isn't swerving illegal? Isn't slamming on the brakes illegal? Isn't crossing the double yellow line illegal? Talking on a cell phone doesn't cause those crimes...doing those crimes causes those crimes and there are already laws against them. Not once have I advocated sloppy driving. If you can't talk and drive at the same time, it's not a good idea and you will be punished for your sloppy driving.

congfatulations. you have the logic of a 3-year old.
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
How about....I don't know.....hands free devices? They should invent them.

Is it the lack of free hands or the distraction of talking to somebody on the phone? I drive one-handed all the time.

When someone on the road pulls some idiot, "WTF where they thinking' move... 9 times out of 10 they are talking their cell phone using one hand to drive.

some studies have shown that talking on a cell phone while driving compromises the drivers reactive capability and situational awareness more than if they were legally drunk or high.

I guy I know ow who is CA highway patrol says that cell phones are causing a lot of accidents... it is difficult to pin down exactly because at fault drivers almost always lie about their cellphone use. If they were on the phone, they almost always say they were not.



 

ryan256

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Ever heard of bluetooth?

QFT!! I talk on my cell phone while driving sometimes. Especially when I'm doing field work. But I'm always using my headset. I assume they aren't trying to ban this as well?
 

IceBergSLiM

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You have no ground to stand on here.

Fact is driving on public roadways is a privilege not a right. End of story.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I still can't believe all of the personal attacks and insults and the downright immaturity of this thread.

How is text messaging worse? There is no "conversation"...just another task at hand while driving...like drinking a beverage, fiddling with the radio, etc...

BTW, isn't driving bad already illegal? Isn't swerving illegal? Isn't slamming on the brakes illegal? Isn't crossing the double yellow line illegal? Talking on a cell phone doesn't cause those crimes...doing those crimes causes those crimes and there are already laws against them. Not once have I advocated sloppy driving. If you can't talk and drive at the same time, it's not a good idea and you will be punished for your sloppy driving.

I would imagine looking down at your phone to see which buttons you are pressing to be even more distracting than just talking on the phone. I have a feeling you are just trying to make a point about personal freedoms, but your suggestion as an alternative to talking is just plain stupid.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.


not necessarily. While I enjoy talking with passengers while I'm driving, I knwo on several occasions in the past where I've missed exits, ignored posted signs, whatever. I don't think I've come close to causing an accident, but any involved conversation will create a distraction.

Doesn't mean people should stop talking with their passengers, but it is a distraction. Talking on the phone requires more of your attention than talking to someone next to you. I assume there is no need to explain this??
 

halik

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.

If you have a manual, 90% of the time your right hand rest on the stick... how is that any different?
 

halik

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.


not necessarily. While I enjoy talking with passengers while I'm driving, I knwo on several occasions in the past where I've missed exits, ignored posted signs, whatever. I don't think I've come close to causing an accident, but any involved conversation will create a distraction.

Doesn't mean people should stop talking with their passengers, but it is a distraction. Talking on the phone requires more of your attention than talking to someone next to you. I assume there is no need to explain this??

I disagree, unless you're searching your contacts or something, talking on the phone isn't any more distracting than someone riding shotgun. I don't stare at my phone when im talking on it...
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.


not necessarily. While I enjoy talking with passengers while I'm driving, I knwo on several occasions in the past where I've missed exits, ignored posted signs, whatever. I don't think I've come close to causing an accident, but any involved conversation will create a distraction.

Doesn't mean people should stop talking with their passengers, but it is a distraction. Talking on the phone requires more of your attention than talking to someone next to you. I assume there is no need to explain this??

I disagree, unless you're searching your contacts or something, talking on the phone isn't any more distracting than someone riding shotgun. I don't stare at my phone when im talking on it...


So you stare at people sitting next to you while you're driving? If so, then you have unrelated driving issues.

But yeah, when you're holding a conversation over the phone, your brain has to work harder at interpreting that conversation. No one realizes these things as they are going on, because they don't have to. A good bit of communication involves mannerisms and facial expressions. The brain takes in and processes this info without you even realizing what's going on. This makes the spoken aspect of a conversation easier to maintain. The telephone negates all of this, and you are forced to focus on words exclusively. Your brain isn't optimized to communicate this way, despite what you may want to believe.

The more obvious argument, however, is that a phone conversation isn't always going to be clear, esp considering a cell phone, and while in a car. You have to focus harder to simply hear the conversation.

Yes, conversing over the phone is far more distracting than conversing with someone next to you, in person.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: alimoalem
i've heard cali's gonna start it starting in '08...could have heard wrong though

You heard correct.

Those of you who feel this is another one of your freedoms taken away, need to keep in mind the safety aspects of this. Using a phone while driving will still be ok, as long as it's hands free. Some people are bad enough at driving, let alone multitasking. I get behind drivers all the time, who are slowing down traffic and driving in two lanes, because they are busy messing with their phones.

 

mugs

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'll just text message and so will everyone else. That way we won't get caught. Of course, the roads will be less safe since you have to look down to see what you are writing...but the law makers don't seem to care about that. They're only interested in finding new ways to write tickets.

:)

UPDATE!

Looks like Washington State is expected to pass a law against talking on cell phones while driving unless you can do it without using up your hands.

Looks like I'll just resort to getting a lot of text messages in my plan and texting while driving. Whether it's illegal or not, cops can't tell if you're text messaging while driving...unless you're swerving...in which case a person needs to be pulled over anyway (thus making the law retarded).

You are an irresponsible, inconsiderate asshole. Please kill yourself.
 

slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'll just text message and so will everyone else. That way we won't get caught. Of course, the roads will be less safe since you have to look down to see what you are writing...but the law makers don't seem to care about that. They're only interested in finding new ways to write tickets.

:)

UPDATE!

Looks like Washington State is expected to pass a law against talking on cell phones while driving unless you can do it without using up your hands.

Looks like I'll just resort to getting a lot of text messages in my plan and texting while driving. Whether it's illegal or not, cops can't tell if you're text messaging while driving...unless you're swerving...in which case a person needs to be pulled over anyway (thus making the law retarded).

You are an irresponsible, inconsiderate asshole. Please kill yourself.

If he plans to text while driving it shouldn't take long.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'll just text message and so will everyone else. That way we won't get caught. Of course, the roads will be less safe since you have to look down to see what you are writing...but the law makers don't seem to care about that. They're only interested in finding new ways to write tickets.

:)

UPDATE!

Looks like Washington State is expected to pass a law against talking on cell phones while driving unless you can do it without using up your hands.

Looks like I'll just resort to getting a lot of text messages in my plan and texting while driving. Whether it's illegal or not, cops can't tell if you're text messaging while driving...unless you're swerving...in which case a person needs to be pulled over anyway (thus making the law retarded).

You are an irresponsible, inconsiderate asshole. Please kill yourself.

If he plans to text while driving it shouldn't take long.


I hope we get pics fo the carnage. That would so complete this thread!
 

DrPizza

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Since when was driving a freedom? I thought it was a priviledge. And, unfortunately, we're too lenient with who we extend that priviledge to. People who will happily drive while distracted (and the OP is boasting about using text messaging) should have that priviledge removed.
 

KingofCamelot

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.


not necessarily. While I enjoy talking with passengers while I'm driving, I knwo on several occasions in the past where I've missed exits, ignored posted signs, whatever. I don't think I've come close to causing an accident, but any involved conversation will create a distraction.

Doesn't mean people should stop talking with their passengers, but it is a distraction. Talking on the phone requires more of your attention than talking to someone next to you. I assume there is no need to explain this??

I disagree, unless you're searching your contacts or something, talking on the phone isn't any more distracting than someone riding shotgun. I don't stare at my phone when im talking on it...

However, someone riding shotgun is in your car with you, which means you are less likely to get into an accident. The person riding shotgun is actually in the car with you, so if you are distracted and about to rear-end someone theres a good chance that your passenger may notice even if you don't, and they're going to mention it, while a person on the phone is oblivious to what is happening on the road.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: iroast
You should not be using your cell phone while moving. Period. When on the road, you should focus on the road. You can always call back.

I take it you never talk when you're driving with someone?

That's a bad comparison. You can talk to someone inside your car while keeping 2 hands on the wheel.

I also think it's a poor comparison because, at least from my experience, I am far less distracted when talking to someone in the car versus someone on a phone. I don't know why, it doesn't make much sense, but it's 100% true.

When talking to a passenger in your own vehicle, the conversation doesn't follow the same pace as a conversation on a cell phone. When the driver is doing things that require more concentration - merging into heavy traffic, etc., the pace of the conversation slows down. However, when on a cell phone, the person at the other end maintains a continuous pace during the conversation. Simply - we can't multitask. The passenger senses and realizes when the driver is paying more attention to the road and allows the driver to pay more attention. Anyone with kids realizes how much more distracting it is talking to kids in the back seat - the kids haven't learned these skills yet.

 

iliopsoas

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how about you just use a freaking headset?

I've been in several close calls with dumbfvcks who were too busy talking on the phone to pay attention to the road.