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If they ever outlaw talking on a cell phone while driving...

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'll just text message and so will everyone else. That way we won't get caught. Of course, the roads will be less safe since you have to look down to see what you are writing...but the law makers don't seem to care about that. They're only interested in finding new ways to write tickets.

🙂

1. it's already illegal in several states
2. every state that has a similar law has an exception for use with any hands-free device
3. you're an idiot, and I'm glad I don't live and drive anywhere near you
 
Originally posted by: LtPage1
1. it's already illegal in several states
2. every state that has a similar law has an exception for use with any hands-free device
3. you're an idiot, and I'm glad I don't live and drive anywhere near you


1) It's nearly impossible to enforce.
2) Hands-free devices don't take the driver away from the conversation.
3) Hey, you're such a nice guy. Can I buy you a beer sometime? 😉
 
well, i know that in britain, talking on cellphones while driving is illegal but that doesn't over SMS. so technically, BlancoNico is right.
 
Originally posted by: bum
They already did this in Chicago, but people obviously still use cellphones pretty liberally anyway.

Same here in NYS. Everybody still talks on their cells -- I even see cops everyday chatting away on the cells while driving....
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
So let me get this straight? Your plan is to constantly take your eyes away from the road to read txt's while operating a 1ton vehicle at 65mph+?

riiight...

And then bitch when he gets a ticket for it after they make it illegal to do so.

Heh...this is my point!

A) It's more dangerous to text message and that's what everyone will start doing.

B) Impossible to enforce because all you have to do is hold your cell phone beneath the window.

My OP was very tongue-in-cheek and was specifically designed to pinpoint the exact fallacies of cell phone bans.

Speaking to a cell without hands free is outlawed in Finland so I speak from experience.

A) <- NO THEY DONT
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I'll just text message and so will everyone else. That way we won't get caught. Of course, the roads will be less safe since you have to look down to see what you are writing...but the law makers don't seem to care about that. They're only interested in finding new ways to write tickets.

🙂

Um I don't think most people will write text messages. Do you think the only thing that would stop people from doing so is more legislation? Sorry, most people aren't that stupid, but I guess you are.
 
I doubt the inbred techno-geeks who cant drive and use a phone even know what text messaging is. If your too cheap to buy a hands free set then you obviously suck at the business your supposedly doing. I dont see a point in having yet another distraction for the many already bad drivers out there.

The point? YOU CAN KILL PEOPLE! so... enjoy texting your funny jokes on your free-with-plan phone as you smack a 5 year old in the face with your bumper
 
studies have proven pretty conclusively that talking to someone on the phone while driving, even with a hands-free phone, is a pretty significant distraction.

it's pretty retarded... is what you have to talk about really THAT important that you'd risk getting into an accident for it?
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
studies have proven pretty conclusively that talking to someone on the phone while driving, even with a hands-free phone, is a pretty significant distraction.

it's pretty retarded... is what you have to talk about really THAT important that you'd risk getting into an accident for it?

Nothing is that important. I just get bored when i'm driving so it's nice to talk to someone, sometimes.
 
Uhh I drive in NY quite a lot where it's not legal to use a cell phone while driving... to my knowledge that includes all cell-based activities.

Does it stop people from using them? Not at all.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino

My OP was very tongue-in-cheek and was specifically designed to pinpoint the exact fallacies of cell phone bans.

Are you sure it wasn't designed to provide a clear examples of 5th grade logic, over simplification and basic ignorance of relevant facts?
 
Regardless of whether you are willing to admit it or not, using a cell phone while driving DOES impair your ability to drive.

Im not going to sit here and say that I dont use my phone while driving, because I do.

I hate being a passenger in a car while the driver is talking on a cell phone, because it becomes more obvious how it impairs them. It takes them a bit longer to react to stopped traffic, etc...
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
So let me get this straight? Your plan is to constantly take your eyes away from the road to read txt's while operating a 1ton vehicle at 65mph+?

riiight...

And then bitch when he gets a ticket for it after they make it illegal to do so.

Heh...this is my point!

A) It's more dangerous to text message and that's what everyone will start doing.

B) Impossible to enforce because all you have to do is hold your cell phone beneath the window.

My OP was very tongue-in-cheek and was specifically designed to pinpoint the exact fallacies of cell phone bans.

What fallacies? Fact is, people talking on the phone in the car have one less hand on the wheel and more importantly, their attention diverted from the road to the conversation. People who drive and talk on their mobiles are more likely to have an accident than someone with their mind on the road and their hands on the wheel. We've had a ban on using phones in the car over here for a while now and it's not that they're issuing tickets left right and centre because it's hard to police, but that people are now disinclined to do it, and it's the behaviour that needed changing.
 
Take away one distraction and people will find another.
Food, drink, cellphone, makeup, radio, CDs, TV, hot person walking by on the street or in another car , etc..etc..
 
Cell phone use while driving may not affect all people the same (I can personally do it without an issue)... but even still, the use was abused profusely and remember, driving is a privilege not a right.

On the issue of cell phones, I just got my new upgraded phone last night! It was a real pain finding one as I can't have a camera phone at work (there goes 90% of the phones) and I wanted one that's compatible with my car's bluetooth (there went the other 9%). So I ended up with a Motorola L2. It's actually not too bad, but I wish I could've found a flip phone rather than the "candy bar" style.
 
It was on the news yesterday (CBS, Katie Couric) about several states looking at banning cell phone usage in its entirety while driving, which includes texting. It has a section on a kid who killed a older man on a bicycle while texting.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: BlancoNino

My OP was very tongue-in-cheek and was specifically designed to pinpoint the exact fallacies of cell phone bans.

Are you sure it wasn't designed to provide a clear examples of 5th grade logic, over simplification and basic ignorance of relevant facts?

LOL :thumbsup:

Slippery slope idiot logic FTL.
 
Every distraction adds to the chance of you causing (or not avoiding) an accident. The problem with cell phones is threefold. First, having a conversation is a distraction. That by itself is not a big deal. Talking to someone sitting in the passenger seat is not seen as a bad thing typically. Cell phone is perhaps a little worse because the sound quality is worse possibly requiring increased attention to understand what the other person is trying to say. Second, the physical act of holding the phone to your ear is another distraction. Doesn't seem as though it should be, but it is. Try holding anything to your head while driving (a brick, a shoe, I don't care), and I think you'll notice it distracts you. Now you have two distractions at the same time. Third, people who talk on their cell phones do it pretty much contantly. Now you have two distractions consistently. Whereas adjusting the radio is a HUGE distraction, it also generally only happens for a few seconds each trip, and you can pick a proper time to do it, like when sitting at a red light. Not so with constant cell phone conversations. Add these all together and you have an unacceptable level of consistent distraction from your driving. Frankly, I don't think it should be illegal to talk on your cellphone while driving, but if you do it constantly, I do think it makes you a tool.
 
this thread reminded me ... I need to get a bluetooth headset because now that I drive a stick, i can't talk on the phone while driving and changing gears.
 
oh yah, and saying that using a cell phone makes it so the driver can only drive with 1 hand is such a BS comment.

what, do you think that us who drive a stick shift have an extra hand that we can use for the shifter? i drive with 1 hand all the time, regardless of what i'm doing in my car, because i have to change gears with my right hand.

and when i'm flowing on a highway, i don't put my 2nd hand on the steering wheel, i still only use 1. it's just more comfortable and having 2 hands on the wheel doesn't make anything safer, regardless of what they told you in drivers ed.
 
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