Those who bitch about UHC have probably never gone a recent day without coverage. I worked for a company that went bankrupt and got laid off after 18 1/2 years on the job. The COBRA was way too expensive and it took me about 18 months to find another job where I had medical benefits again. It sucked.
Those who bitch about UHC have probably never gone a recent day without coverage. I worked for a company that went bankrupt and got laid off after 18 1/2 years on the job. The COBRA was way too expensive and it took me about 18 months to find another job where I had medical benefits again. It sucked.
So if Clinton signs the medicare bill he's the common man's hero but if Bush signs it he's a big government republican? :roll:
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I didn't have health insurance for the first 20 years of my life. My parents have never had health insurance their entire lives (and still don't). They are healthy and living just fine.
Yeah, because manufacturing jobs haven't been lost to China over the last 8 years. Nice try though.
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Lifer
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Sounds to me like a "no lose" situation for Obama...if something good happens, he gets all the credit...if something bad happens, it was all Bush's fault. Is that your story and you're sticking to it? BTW...exactly when does the statute of limitations run out for the BDSers...never?
Except, we aren't pulling out of Iraq until 2011 and the Bush tax cuts don't expire until 2010.
I'm guessing Obamacare will pass in 2009.
evident
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That's great that all of you are healthy, but what if your mom or dad has a heartattack tomorrow?
What if they get shot /car accident and need medical attention?
you're gonna have to sell your house to pay for the medical bills if you don't have medical insurance. Have you seen hospital bills for services rendered?
Only time will tell. I am patient enough to wait until 2011-2012. I won't be crying a river if it comes in 2009 either.
They won't have heartattacks, no family history and they eat very healthy. If they get shot, then we'll pay for it out of pocket with the $1k/mo x 55 years of their life they didn't have to pay for insurance they saved.
This is pretty dumb thinking. First of all, health insurance wouldn't have been costing them 1k a month for the 55 years of their life. Second of all what you're saying is basically akin to "I don't need car insurance because I've never been in an accident". Real smart move there. Just don't go crying when your family is filing for bankruptcy.
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Lifer
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My family eats very well too. We all exercise and my parents are both in very good health. then one day my mom had a ruptured brain aneurysm and almost died. brain aneurysms can happen to anyone and almost no one regularly gets a brain cat scan to see if they have one. it took her about 3 months in the hospital for recovery, then after that we had home care for another month. Thank god now she's almost 100% again. Luckily, they had health insurance, but the total billcame from the hospital for that event came out to be around $500k. our copay was $500.
Can you explain how someone without any medical insurance who makes less money than our family would be able to pay for that?
1k a month for 55 years is roughly 650k. that would cover that event once. now what if a second event happens? you wont be able to afford that and it will come out of the hospital's "people who don't have insurance fund" and i think in some indirect way we end up paying for it
what if you need preventative screening like an MRI or a cat scan? those cost $5k alone to get done.
The worst thing is that guess who is going to be paying for their irresponsibility after the money runs out? We will be. Funny how JS80 is always talking about personal responsibility for everyone else, but he and his family are going to end up placing the rest of us on the hook for their fucking irresponsible behavior.
yllus
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Folks, you got a raise in your taxes when you went to war times two. You're either going to pay those taxes now, or pay even more taxes later. That tax hike was brought to you by President Bush. Now your only major decision is what level of blatant lying you'll get by the person who puts that tax hike into law in literal terms.
Yeap. We'll either pay for Bush's tax hike now, or pay for it even later with even more interest.
I can't wait to pay for your parents health care eventually then. Thanks for being irresponsible and living off the work of others.
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