No question. Absolutely take a caning to companies still hiring illegals. Turn the spigot off and hopefully many will self deport. It's good to see we are doing this now...a bit late and a little to quietly for my taste. But I understand it is political dynamite for both parties to be painted as anti-immigrant. Still, it is the law. And I wish both parties would take this issue seriously. Republican businessmen want cheap labor and Democrats want a generation of poor voting dependents -- so nobody does a damn thing about the illegal problem. I get it.
My biggest worry is main stream media going bankrupt and America loosing 1000s more jobs if BHO looses
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
How come there are so many black conservatives on AnandTech, yet only one was present at the GOP convention?
Why does a borg care???? black white brown all the same to us... we can assimilate with equal ease
another one to be added to the OP
Stricter environmental norms to reduce green house gases in US. More jobs lost and China producing the same thing with 10 times more pollution
Stricter environmental norms to reduce green house gases in US. More jobs lost and China producing the same thing with 10 times more pollution
Nancy "C" Pelosi's congress didnt do anything in the last 2 years. If BHO is elected the Repubs will be more hostile, not sure how NCP and BHO will get anything done then...
1. Income redistribution does not generate a viable growth plan. Immediate short term the "bottom" 95% may have a few more bucks in their pocket, but it's not secret it's the top 5% that use capital to invest is the key to economic growth. Lowering their incentive will slow investment activity on a macro scale. It's biting the hand that feeds you.
2. Probably. If SCOTUS doesn't challenge it a new revolution will.
3. Most UHC implementations around the world are utter failures. Just because a small mostly middle class one race scandinavian country can do it does not mean a homogeneous society like ours can.
I'm a mix of liberal and conservative viewpoints, so I'm going to be OK with either winning. Damn pleased it isn't Romney or 9/11 vs. Clinton or Edwards. What a nightmare that would have been.
1. Debatable. If it can be shown that they are still benefiting (getting equal after tax compensation/return) from increased sales and/or stock prices because of increased sales, they won't mind as much and will still invest.
Also, I find it disingenuous to say that the rich will stop trying to get richer if they are taxed. They will still invest. They might try different avenues/vehicles, but they will not stop trying to increase their wealth. Period.
2. Who knows.
3. False statements based on a lack of research, outright lies or an unwillingness to admit that the US is falling far behind in health care to its citizens. Currently, the preeminent UHCs are France and Japan.
Currently, we are spending 15% of GDP on health care and over 1/6th of the population has no access to it. There are gaps in plans and choices are restricted. Costs are rising at record rates to keep up with the profit driven mentality of health care systems and the insurance industry.
Japan spends about 8% of its GDP on health care. They have a tiered approach where the elderly and self-employed are covered and employers have to cover the rest. Large companies are covered by one pool and small-mid size by another with public employees by a third. You can choose whatever doctor/hospital you want to go to and technology does not lag behind.
France is ranked as #1 and spends about 10% of GDP on health care. The plans are payed for by govt, commercial and industrial; Farmers; and professionals, small business and craftsmen. There are public and private facilities. If you charge at the national fee schedule, you get govt benefits. If you charge higher than the fee schedule, you dont. France's major problems right now seem to be dr/nurse shortages and drug costs.
The fact is, the US is the only industrialized country in the world that allows health care facilities to price people out of the system. This isn't about not having the money to do so. It is about using the money that we do have/allocate more responsibly and more efficiently.
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Or the idiots in Congress are drafting legislation requiring threat of veto from the President...take your pick.
Pelosi and crowd have been completely ineffective since taking Congress, and that has nothing to do with Bush.
The thought of an Obama Presidency doesn't scare me...I like his vision and persona...I have no doubt that he can lead...my concern is whether or not he will keep Pelosi and her minions in check.
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If Obama wins it will be interesting to see how far they will push a left agenda. Dems will have a near super majority and Obama has proved he votes in line with his party about 98% of the time, if not higher.
I think rubberstamp era of the Bush admin may look tame. Or Obama could surprise us and actually be a centrist and keep the govt in check. We wont know until he is in there.
I think rubberstamp era of the Bush admin may look tame. Or Obama could surprise us and actually be a centrist and keep the govt in check. We wont know until he is in there.
1. I said "Lowering their incentive will slow investment activity on a macro scale." You said that I said "rich will stop trying to get richer if they are taxed." I said that it lowers returns and it slows investment activity. The key to economic prosperity is growth. Yes, they will not "stop trying to increase their wealth." But investment activity WILL slow at a higher tax rate than at a lower tax rate.
2. ok
3. How can you compare Japan to the US? If you put all the asian americans in one state and implemented UHC of course it will work. They are statistically healthier and earn more money. Genetically less prone to diseases. It's not fair to compare any nation's UHC to the US. The closest comparison is to compare Massachusettes HC, and that's an utter failure.
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Might be true if he were Emperor but most of any faults lie with Congress. In fact I would argue if he were Emperor we would be more prosperous.
Question about taxes:
Bush's tax cuts end in 2010. So I guess in that sense both candidates are LOWERING taxes past 2010 when compared to status quo right? Oh and yeah I make under 250k and so does my family so according to Mr. Obama, our taxes shouldn't increase. However, increases in capital gains taxes is the biggest concern to me. Is Obama REALLY lowering taxes for 95% of Americans? Yeah, we get some more credits here and there which gives even more people the ability to not pay taxes, but for the good number of engineers like me out there, are we even benefitting? I don't know. My parents surely aren't. Do 6 figure income makers really gain anything more from Obama or from McCain? When you raise capital gains taxes, a lot of older individuals like my parents will surely suffer because of their heavy investing...
Bush's tax cuts end in 2010. So I guess in that sense both candidates are LOWERING taxes past 2010 when compared to status quo right? Oh and yeah I make under 250k and so does my family so according to Mr. Obama, our taxes shouldn't increase. However, increases in capital gains taxes is the biggest concern to me. Is Obama REALLY lowering taxes for 95% of Americans? Yeah, we get some more credits here and there which gives even more people the ability to not pay taxes, but for the good number of engineers like me out there, are we even benefitting? I don't know. My parents surely aren't. Do 6 figure income makers really gain anything more from Obama or from McCain? When you raise capital gains taxes, a lot of older individuals like my parents will surely suffer because of their heavy investing...
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