If I see the word "overclock" or "o/c" one more time, I think I'll hurl.

Keysplayr

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Everything is fast enough. CPU's, GPU's. And they are so cheap now. Just use them as they were intended and get the longest possible life out of them.

My 2 cents worth.

OK, let the melee begin.
 

RobsTV

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Get out your barf bag.
Overclock to the hilt!!!!!!

When you can get an XP1700+ for $50, and overclock it to XP2400+ speeds, you are saving more than $50,
and "extending" it's useful life by more than twice as long. Also, in this example you are actually running much
faster than a XP2400+ if you use a FSB of 166MHz or 200MHz, instead of the 133MHz the 2400+ is running at.

When you get a $100 video card, and overclock it to the same performance as a $180 card, $$$$ saved.

Run PC2100 memory at PC2700 speeds, or your PC2700 at PC3500 speeds.

Take your 32x12x40x CDRW, update the firmware, and run it at 48x24x48x

You can build a PC completely for around $500, and run it at the same speeds as a PC priced at $1200 if you overclock.

Many parts are made with the same components, just labled differently.
The chances of shortening the life when you overclock is very very slim, as long as you do it right, and don't need to buy extra cooling.

The useful life of higher performance parts is only a couple years, then they become low performance unwanted parts.
By overclocking, you actually extend the useful life, because the parts are actually running near current speed in a couple years.

Parts don't die after a time period, they get outdated. Extend their life by overclocking.
 

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I agree with RobsTV. If you're not a gamer than you don't need to overclock but us serious gamers do need to overclock our RAM, CPU, and videocard!:cool:
 

Keysplayr

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hehe, It's just too easy....

And no, I don't own a Mac and don't care to ever own one. Mr. Presumptuous..:).

P4 2.8GHz 512DDR PC2100 ASUS P4S533 WD 80GB 7200rpm GeForce4 Ti 4600 (8x 4800)
All stock speeds no need to O/C. 3DMark2001SE Score.
 

oldfart

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Hmm, if you overclock that 2.8, get rid of that SiS board, ditch that PC2100 for some nice PC3200.......you may be in good shape! ;)
 

PliotronX

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If it's so easy, why do you condemn it? What does it concern you if people choose to put their systems to the limit?

And if you feel nauseated by overclocking, you've got much worse in store for you ;)
 

bunnyfubbles

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Overclocking these days is not only made practical, it is easy and fun to do. Some guys go the extra mile to mod their boards in order to get more voltage into their CPUs and Ram just so they can get an extra 100 MHz or so, but they have fun doing it and the also get insane performance.

How much does a "stock" 2.8GHz P4 system 512MB of PC2100 and a Ti4600 cost? Well I'm sure there are systems for far cheaper that could blow away your performance, and with they money saved you can double the ram and get a faster video card (9700...). Athlon 2100+ @ 2.4GHz on a 200+MHz FSB with a gig of PC3500 would cost just as much as a 2.8 GHz P4 and 512MB of PC2100, and the performance of the athlon system would surely blow away that P4 system running at stock speeds. Again, there is that performance potential factor that is alway very very appealing to gamers on a budget and enthusiasts alike...
 

RobsTV

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
hehe, It's just too easy....

And no, I don't own a Mac and don't care to ever own one. Mr. Presumptuous..:).

P4 2.8GHz 512DDR PC2100 ASUS P4S533 WD 80GB 7200rpm GeForce4 Ti 4600 (8x 4800)
All stock speeds no need to O/C. 3DMark2001SE Score.

Says your link is invalid, so can't see what you scored.
But I'm guessing that with your expensive system you must be hitting 13,000, right?

For comparison, 11,000
That 11,000 is with a $50 CPU, quiet $5 SVC GC68 hsf at 41c, and a $90 Ti500.
 

railer

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yikes...how much did you PAY for that system?
I'm thinking way way way too much.
But, if you want to throw your money away, go right ahead.
I'm sure I could beat your 3dmark score for half the cash with an o/c'd system...
 

rbV5

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In my world "overclock" would be one cycle above which it will operate at all, therefore I never overclock, and neither should anyone else;)
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: PliotronX
If it's so easy, why do you condemn it? What does it concern you if people choose to put their systems to the limit?

And if you feel nauseated by overclocking, you've got much worse in store for you ;)

I meant "easy" as in pushing your buttons. And you just proved my point.. Thanks... :)

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: RobsTV
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
hehe, It's just too easy....

And no, I don't own a Mac and don't care to ever own one. Mr. Presumptuous..:).

P4 2.8GHz 512DDR PC2100 ASUS P4S533 WD 80GB 7200rpm GeForce4 Ti 4600 (8x 4800)
All stock speeds no need to O/C. 3DMark2001SE Score.

Says your link is invalid, so can't see what you scored.
But I'm guessing that with your expensive system you must be hitting 13,000, right?

For comparison, 11,000
That 11,000 is with a $50 CPU, quiet $5 SVC GC68 hsf at 41c, and a $90 Ti500.


Yes, actually it was 12190 so your right on the money.
But I was able to get to the site by clicking on the link. Anybody else have any trouble?
Keys
 

oldfart

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LOL...THG and a year old article.
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Glad you like the SiS. Good thing you dont overclock.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: railer
yikes...how much did you PAY for that system?
I'm thinking way way way too much.
But, if you want to throw your money away, go right ahead.
I'm sure I could beat your 3dmark score for half the cash with an o/c'd system...


Look at it this way railer. I spend more money now for my system right? I am already running stock where all of you are striving to be with overclocking (just about anyway). When the time comes where 2.8GHz is just not enough, years down the road, I can then overclock to 3GHz plus easily, where all of you will have to go out and buy a faster processor and possibly a new motherboard to overclock. So in actuality, you have to buy 2 or more cheapy processors and MoBo to get as much scalability as I do. So who is paying way way way too much? I think it's not me.

Food for thought.

Keys:p
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: oldfart
LOL...THG and a year old article.
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Glad you like the SiS. Good thing you dont overclock.

Don't need to farty. That's the beauty.
Keys

 

Keysplayr

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Oh, this Ti4600 is just breathtaking. Very powerful. I should be getting my Radeon 9500 pro 128 soon. Waiting a long time though, since December 27th.
Cant wait to compare the two for myself.

 

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Originally posted by: ScrewFace
but us serious gamers do need to overclock our RAM, CPU, and videocard!:cool:

I totally disagree, I'm a serious gamer and I don't feel the need to OC everything in site. I could care less if people do it or not.

 

oldfart

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Don't need to farty. That's the beauty
You dont NEED to overclock. You dont NEED a 2.8 GHz CPU and a Ti4600 either. A lower multiplier, higher FSB CPU will outperform the 2.8 @ the same CPU speed for less $$. That is a fact.
 

UncleWai

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: railer
yikes...how much did you PAY for that system?
I'm thinking way way way too much.
But, if you want to throw your money away, go right ahead.
I'm sure I could beat your 3dmark score for half the cash with an o/c'd system...


Look at it this way railer. I spend more money now for my system right? I am already running stock where all of you are striving to be with overclocking (just about anyway). When the time comes where 2.8GHz is just not enough, years down the road, I can then overclock to 3GHz plus easily, where all of you will have to go out and buy a faster processor and possibly a new motherboard to overclock. So in actuality, you have to buy 2 or more cheapy processors and MoBo to get as much scalability as I do. So who is paying way way way too much? I think it's not me.

Food for thought.

Keys:p

No matter what, if you buy something with a premium and not fully utilize it, you are wasting your money. I can use a xp1700 ($50) and a ti4200($99) o/ced while waiting for your p4 2.8ghz and the ti 4600 to depreciate. I am sure by the time the o/ced system is outdated, I can use the money I saved to buy your current setup. At the end, I have two fully working rigs while you have one. 2 > 1 therefore you lose. That's why you never buy computer hardwares for the future, n-1 is always the wise choice.

If you have money to burn, you have complete right to do so. But for smart buyers like us who want to spend our money properly, we buy products that yield the best perfomance/price hardwares.
 

Killrose

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I think overclocking is great, but I don't ever feel the need to get every last MHz out. Just enough to keep things stable, cool and fast. Adds to the whole part of building your own and trading-up and around.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: oldfart
Don't need to farty. That's the beauty
You dont NEED to overclock. You dont NEED a 2.8 GHz CPU and a Ti4600 either. A lower multiplier, higher FSB CPU will outperform the 2.8 @ the same CPU speed for less $$. That is a fact.


Oh now your just being silly. Stop it, you sound ridiculous. Your hurting my precious ego."not".
Thanks for your input though.
I should start more threads like this. Fun.
This message was not intended to hurt anyones feelings. It's not like I'm talking about anyone's mother here... LOL :)
Keys
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: IdBuRnS
Originally posted by: ScrewFace
but us serious gamers do need to overclock our RAM, CPU, and videocard!:cool:

I totally disagree, I'm a serious gamer and I don't feel the need to OC everything in site. I could care less if people do it or not.

I agree with you. I dont care if people do or not. Just dont obsess about it is what I'm saying. Did you O/C this? Did you O/C that? sheesh...:)