If I see the word "overclock" or "o/c" one more time, I think I'll hurl.

[PhoenixOfWater]

Originally posted by: RobsTV

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
hehe, It's just too easy....

And no, I don't own a Mac and don't care to ever own one. Mr. Presumptuous...

P4 2.8GHz 512DDR PC2100 ASUS P4S533 WD 80GB 7200rpm GeForce4 Ti 4600 (8x 4800)
All stock speeds no need to O/C. 3DMark2001SE Score.

Says your link is invalid, so can't see what you scored.
But I'm guessing that with your expensive system you must be hitting 13,000, right?

For comparison, 11,000
That 11,000 is with a $50 CPU, quiet $5 SVC GC68 hsf at 41c, and a $90 Ti500.

from the P4 side
My Mobo = $75 CPU = $140 useing stock cooling (I got both off FS/FT)
Ti4200 = $170 (its was on sale at bestbuy)
I hit about 13049 in 3D Mark01
not too too bad But you still save more money with a AMD system....

 

[Keysplayr]

from the P4 side
My Mobo = $75 CPU = $140 useing stock cooling (I got both off FS/FT)
Ti4200 = $170 (its was on sale at bestbuy)
I hit about 13049 in 3D Mark01
not too too bad But you still save more money with a AMD system....

-------------------------
Albatron PX845PEV Pro 1.6A@2.52Ghz
[158FSB][DDR420][1.65V][GF4 ti4200]

Not to shabby, you are just a smidge above my performance level. The only thing is, your cpu and gpu are probably going to oxidize their transistors much faster that mine will. In other words. you are shortening the life of your cpu and gpu. They will burn out eventually while mine may never because I dont run them out of spec. Especially when someone raises the voltage of the core. Big Nastiness. And dont tell me that you water cool or something because that does not matter. The voltage that the transistors are hit with is what matters. Not how cool your cpu runs. But thats just my thoughts.
Cheers.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Everything is fast enough. CPU's, GPU's. And they are so cheap now. Just use them as they were intended and get the longest possible life out of them.

My 2 cents worth.

OK, let the melee begin.

You're crazy. Why would you possibly run your rig at default speed when you can safely overclock it? Worried about CPU life? Don't be. The old C300A@450 setup I had lasted me almost 2 years and 3 years later it's still running in a friends machine. By the time an overclocked CPU or video card fails because of overclocking it's going to be so out of date it doesn't matter.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

OK, let the melee begin.

You're crazy. Why would you possibly run your rig at default speed when you can safely overclock it? Worried about CPU life? Don't be. The old C300A@450 setup I had lasted me almost 2 years and 3 years later it's still running in a friends machine. By the time an overclocked CPU or video card fails because of overclocking it's going to be so out of date it doesn't matter.

I'm crazy? OK, if you think so. Tell me Robor, can you really tell the difference between 60 fps and 160 fps? If you can, than your eyes are better than mine.
I can tell the difference of 30 and 60 fps definately. But after that, its just pointless.
MMkaayy?

 

[oldfart]

I'm crazy? OK, if you think so. Tell me Robor, can you really tell the difference between 60 fps and 160 fps? If you can, than your eyes are better than mine.
I can tell the difference of 30 and 60 fps definately. But after that, its just pointless.

Then why did you buy a 2.8 GHz CPU and a Ti4600? I don't understand what your point is. Are you saying that it is not necessary to have a fast system, or you should not get there by overclocking?

Your post above has nothing at all to do with overclocking. As for CPU life, A system I gave to my sister that is now 5 years old is still running as good as the day it was set up, and yes, it is overclocked.

edit...typo

 

[Keysplayr]

Then why did you buy a 2.8 GHz CPU and a Ti4600?


Answer: Because I could at the time.

My Point: Why is everyone so riled up over nothing (and that's exactly what this is, nothing) that they don't know what to do with themselves.
Seems very successful.
I would just like to have a discussion with someone who doesn't ask me if I overclock my stuff. It seems so, infantile I guess.

I would recommend ending this thread. As I knew from the beginning, it goes nowhere. You dont win, I dont win, and thats because there is nothing to win. Good Day all. Have fun OC'ing

Any other questions?

Thanks
Keys

 

[oldfart]

Answer: Because I can.

So can anyone else.

My Point: To get everyone so riled up that they don't know what to do with themselves.
Seems very successful.

No one is riled. At least now we can see your reason for the post since your overclocking arguments make no sence at all.

 

[UncleWai]

keysplayr2003, just admit you are wrong. Your last post did not save any face, but just emphasized the fact that you know you are wrong.
Didn't I already state it previously:

If you have money to burn, you have complete right to do so. But for smart buyers like us who want to spend our money properly, we buy products that yield the best perfomance/price.

That alone is enough to end the argument. I know, you probably have buyer's remorse for spending so much, but don't blame it on us overclockers.

 

[ProviaFan]

Only skimmed thread, so maybe missed something important...

Anyway, too frickin' bad. I'm going to OVERCLOCK my processor and RAM whether you like it and/or think I should or not. And I might be bragging on here if I could get my XP1700+ Tbred B above 2GHz at less than 1.75V too (stable, of course; unfortunately, I can't quite make 2GHz stable). If you want to spend a lot more and get different, faster components, that's fine. But don't go telling everybody else what or what not to do. If you find hardware tweaking offensive, well, you could always go to a predominantly Mac forum... oh, wait, those guys overclock, tweak, etc. also. Nevermind.

 

[spanky]

i am too lazy to overclock. but maybe one day i will be really bored and o/c my xp1600.

 

[oldfart]

Another reason to overclock is to be ahead of the technology curve. When I buit my current setup:
1.6A @ 2.4
600 MHz FSB
DDR400
The fastest P4 available was a 2.0A @ 400 MHz FSB. You could not buy a 2.4 GHz CPU for any price. 533 FSB was not out yet. No way to run DDR400. I built a faster system for less money which could not be bought for any price without overclocking.

I'm about ready to grab a new 2.4B for $165 and clock it up to 2.8 - 3.0 or so. Even if I only overclock it to 2.8, it will be much faster than a 533 MHz FSB 2.8 running PC2100.

 

[Viper96720]

Ha 12190 only with a 4600 and 2.8 P4. I get 12086 with my overclocked 4400 and 1.6A cpu.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6030175

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: UncleWai
keysplayr2003, just admit you are wrong. Your last post did not save any face, but just emphasized the fact that you know you are wrong.
Didn't I already state it previously:

If you have money to burn, you have complete right to do so. But for smart buyers like us who want to spend our money properly, we buy products that yield the best perfomance/price.

That alone is enough to end the argument. I know, you probably have buyer's remorse for spending so much, but don't blame it on us overclockers.

Saving Face?!? What the.... Exactly who do you think you people are? Saving Face? Your joking right? Here's a clue UncleWai, get a life.
It's so easy. What a pompous statement. Do you think I am here to impress or convince you. You all are guilty. I posted my feelings about being sick of hearing about overclocking and look what you turned it into. "Saving Face" . Idiots. I cant believe you people are allowed to exist. Trying to suppress peoples opinions like this. You all deserve each other.

Nice chatting with you.


Ciao.

 

[oldfart]

Well, at least you finally succeeded in getting someone riled.

Peace

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Then why did you buy a 2.8 GHz CPU and a Ti4600?


Answer: Because I can.

My Point: To get everyone so riled up over nothing (and that's exactly what this is, nothing) that they don't know what to do with themselves.
Seems very successful.
I would just like to have a discussion with someone who doesn't ask me if I overclock my stuff. It seems so, infantile I guess.

I would recommend ending this thread. As I knew from the beginning, it goes nowhere. You dont win, I dont win, and thats because there is nothing to win. Good Day all. Have fun OC'ing

Any other questions?

Thanks
Keys

I win

 

[JackBurton]

Dude, you should have gotten a Dell. No overclocking what so ever. Your dream system.

 

[UncleWai]

"Then why did you buy a 2.8 GHz CPU and a Ti4600?
Answer: Because I can.

My Point: To get everyone so riled up over nothing (and that's exactly what this is, nothing) that they don't know what to do with themselves."

This is not an opinion, but a flame-bait. Opinion is when you give your side of the story on an argument. Unfortunately, all your statements are completely lack of that.
I sugget you go to Guide to Flaming if you want to master the ability of flaming. Personal attack without anything to backup is the lowest form of flaming.

Let me mention again:
"
If you have money to burn, you have complete right to do so. But for smart buyers like us who want to spend our money properly, we buy products that yield the best perfomance/price."

If you have read the following statement, you wouldn't need to post "because I can".

 

[Viper96720]

Here you go keys a forum just for youfor key's You can go there and have fun with yourself

 

[YoungChowFun]

Weird. This article was found in the video section, and yet it's about overclocking. You wanna make the OC'ers really respond, post this in the cpu section. As for me, I have to systems, one overclocked and one stock. So in here, I'm 50/50.

 

[AtomicDude512]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Everything is fast enough. CPU's, GPU's. And they are so cheap now. Just use them as they were intended and get the longest possible life out of them.

My 2 cents worth.

OK, let the melee begin.

True true

 

Then why did you buy a 2.8 GHz CPU and a Ti4600?


Answer: Because I can.

My Point: To get everyone so riled up over nothing

Why not get a Radeon 9700 pro? Why not get a 3.06 with ht?
I guess you can't.
You are an ass, posting a thread to start a flame war, you need to get a life. This is what we do here and we are proud of it. :disgust:

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Phocas

Then why did you buy a 2.8 GHz CPU and a Ti4600?


Answer: Because I can.

My Point: To get everyone so riled up over nothing

Why not get a Radeon 9700 pro? Why not get a 3.06 with ht?
I guess you can't.
You are an ass, posting a thread to start a flame war, you need to get a life. This is what we do here and we are proud of it. :disgust:

Yea! You tell em! Overclockers UNITE! Btw, time to pick up a Vapochill I just love buying a $92 CPU and running it at speeds that rival a $600 CPU. Why? Because I can (cough::Athlon XP 2100+@ 2.28ghz::cough)

 

[holdencommodore]

I buy hardware that has a good price/performance ratio... just look at all those AMD rigs in my sig. I then overclock the hardware so I can maximise its value. I just don't see the point of wasting money on "bleeding edge" hardware that is quite often overpriced, when a model or two below has a superior price/performance ratio, which is then extended further with overclocking.


Cheers

 

[PliotronX]

I haven't seen such an unskilled troll in a while, thanks for the laugh

 

[Slappy00]

I dont overclock now, Infact my last OC was a celery 300a @450, that was back in the glory days of overclocking with dip-switches and a very small community that knew quite a bit about computers. Back then Intel was the only name in the game and overclocking was a way to get your money's worth b/c you were getting ripped-off anyways.Hell i remember when i used QMM to get the 8 (or was it 6) megs of ram required to load DOOMII wad. Hell back then sh!t would not run if you didnt use some hardware/software trickery.
Now overclocking is soo easy that all you need is a good motherboard and memory, you dont even need to open the case or reset your cmos manually, you have it easy. Now overclocking is a not out of necessity ( even low-end Intel and AMD cpus can run most games at an expectable level when scaled with the right hardware & dirt-cheap), but rather to garnish some sort of "respect" with their "rig".


Its too easy now, and CPUs are cheap to the point where I dont see a need to overclock to attain a minimum performance level. If someone of moderate income came to me today and said that they OC their pentium4 2.0A to get extra performance, I would ask "why" and I guarentee it would be something along the lines of: to get an extra 50fps (on top of 300) at quake 3 or 1000 pts on 3dMark.

enough of my ranting...


Stock and Stable is the way to go, dont save you bucks, but it does save you headaches.