if everyone lived like you, how many planets would we need?

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mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Amused

Taking the test is a waste of time. Exposing the BS that it is, is not.

Playing with the test, the only way to take up 1 planet is to live like a third world refugee in a home of 20sq meters or less with 7 or more people, never drive a motor vehicle or take public transport, be a vegan, and never eat processed foods.

Come on. :Q

There CAN'T be an aganda here, can there? :roll:
hahahaha. That is quite Amusing.. no pun intended. ;)

But I think the test is more of a silly thing to share with your friends than anything, like the "What level of Hell are you going to?" tests.. lol

Also, you must remember that the test is asking, "If everybody on the entire planet lived like you, how much space would we need?".

Considering that a large portion of the planet DOES live in a home of 20sq meters or less with 7 or more people, never drives a motor vehicle or use public transit, and never eats processed foods... I'm wondering how much out of line it really is.... Although the vegan thing is pretty weird.

I think you're forgetting just how indulgent we are compared to the rest of the world....

What's weird about the vegan thing? Going up the foodchain, 90% of biomass is lost. A pound of meat takes 10 pounds or more of plant matter to make.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused

Taking the test is a waste of time. Exposing the BS that it is, is not.

Playing with the test, the only way to take up 1 planet is to live like a third world refugee in a home of 20sq meters or less with 7 or more people with no electricity or water, never drive a motor vehicle or take public transport, be a vegan, and never eat processed foods.

Come on. :Q

There CAN'T be an aganda here, can there? :roll:

Of course there's an agenda, they care about the planet. :roll:

While it may not accurately assess an individual's impact on the environment, I think it is at least somewhat useful in comparing two people's relative impact. Surely you don't believe that nothing we do has any impact on our environment, or that it's not possible for us to make this planet uninhabitable for ourselves. We've only just gotten started working on that.

But hey, it doesn't affect us, we'll be dead long before anything bad happens.
 

alphatarget1

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Originally posted by: Amused
The bullsh!t is strong with this.

As I pointed out in the other thread, the environmental movement is no longer science, but religion. A religion run by anti-capitalist/anti-corporate loons.

I wonder if their asses are sore after pulling this crap out of it?

The truly sad thing is, people fall for this crap.

if 6 billion people lived in 1500 sq ft houses, how many planets do we need?

not bullshit at all. There are too many people with too much consumption.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Originally posted by: Amused
The bullsh!t is strong with this.

As I pointed out in the other thread, the environmental movement is no longer science, but religion. A religion run by anti-capitalist/anti-corporate loons.

I wonder if their asses are sore after pulling this crap out of it?

The truly sad thing is, people fall for this crap.

if 6 billion people lived in 1500 sq ft houses, how many planets do we need?

not bullshit at all. There are too many people with too much consumption.

Like I said in another post in this thread, I'm not going to feel guilt for the way I live, Americans aren't the ones overpopulating the planet!
 

alphatarget1

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CATEGORY ACRES

FOOD 4.2

MOBILITY 0.5

SHELTER 2.2

GOODS/SERVICES 1.7

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 9



IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.




IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 1.9 PLANETS.

I read from Newsweek or something that it takes like 4 barrels of oil to raise one cow. That's how the vegan thing comes into play.
 

alphatarget1

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Originally posted by: Amused
The bullsh!t is strong with this.

As I pointed out in the other thread, the environmental movement is no longer science, but religion. A religion run by anti-capitalist/anti-corporate loons.

I wonder if their asses are sore after pulling this crap out of it?

The truly sad thing is, people fall for this crap.

if 6 billion people lived in 1500 sq ft houses, how many planets do we need?

not bullshit at all. There are too many people with too much consumption.

Like I said in another post in this thread, I'm not going to feel guilt for the way I live, Americans aren't the ones overpopulating the planet!

No no, I'm not even remotely implying that we should feel guilty to have a good standard of living.

on the other hand, there are so many things we can do to cut down on wastefulness and stuff.

I was talking to my friend today about earth day and his professor once told the class how the kids answered when they were asked where water comes from. "Faucet". It's amazing how people take things for granted.
 

slpaulson

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Jun 5, 2000
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CATEGORY ACRES
FOOD 6.2
MOBILITY 0
SHELTER 3.5
GOODS/SERVICES 3.2
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 13

2.9 planets
 

HappyFace

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Nov 2, 1999
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FOOD 5.9

MOBILITY 8.6

SHELTER 6.9

GOODS/SERVICES 14.1

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 36



IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.




IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 8 PLANETS. :Q

 

JBT

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Nov 28, 2001
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CATEGORY ACRES

FOOD 5.7

MOBILITY 2.5

SHELTER 4

GOODS/SERVICES 4.4

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 17



WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.



IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 3.7 PLANETS.
 

Quasmo

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Jul 7, 2004
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CATEGORY ACRES

FOOD 1.7

MOBILITY 0

SHELTER 0.5

GOODS/SERVICES 0.2

TOTAL FOOTPRINT 2
 

ucdbiendog

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CATEGORY ACRES
FOOD 4.9
MOBILITY 1.2
SHELTER 3.7
GOODS/SERVICES 4.4
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 14



IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.



IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 3.2 PLANETS
 

FOOD 1.1
MOBILITY 1.4
SHELTER 1.9
GOODS/SERVICES 5.3
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 9.7



IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 2 GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 1.8 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.



IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 5.4 PLANETS.
 

jagec

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IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 1.0 PLANETS.

Apartment, eating meat often, driving ~40 miles a week, usually by myself in a fuel-efficient (but not super-efficient) car.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: jagec
IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 1.0 PLANETS.

Apartment, eating meat often, driving ~40 miles a week, usually by myself in a fuel-efficient (but not super-efficient) car.

Impossible.

Eating meat, driving ANY distance and having electricity puts you far over 1.0 planets.
 

RaDragon

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Nice link, OP!


CATEGORY ACRES
FOOD 4.7
MOBILITY 1
SHELTER 5.2
GOODS/SERVICES 5.7
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 17

IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 24 ACRES PER PERSON.

WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 3.7 PLANETS.

:eek: :eek:
 

Zenmervolt

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WORLDWIDE, THERE EXIST 4.5 BIOLOGICALLY PRODUCTIVE ACRES PER PERSON.
I get the sneaking suspiscion that what they aren't saying is that those 4.5 biologically productive acres are sufficient to feed/house many many people.

I just love the way they categorize my 510 sq/ft apartment as requiring 7.4 acres. The entire complex may be something like 5 or 6 acres, but there are well over 100 people living here. There's no effing way my shelter is depriving others of 7.4 acres. Makes me extremely skeptical of their other calculations too.

ZV