Identities of 1,500 ICE Agents pulled from LinkedIn and published

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OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Is it morally wrong to use force to separate children from their parents?

no, its done daily by child protective services across the country when parents are thrown in jail and nobody can take over the stewardship of the kids.
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
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According to Sessions and SHS they're doing the Lord's work, so I'm sure they won't care if everyone knows.

This is exactly what we said 200 years ago when we were killing the natives while we stole their land.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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no, its done daily by child protective services across the country when parents are thrown in jail and nobody can take over the stewardship of the kids.
Trying to equate these things is hideous. You have displayed the nature of your character and it is rotten.
 
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Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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no, its done daily by child protective services across the country when parents are thrown in jail and nobody can take over the stewardship of the kids.
Hehe. I know this. But that is not what I asked. You did exactly what I asked you not to do, to put my questioning conrext. You can see, however, I hope, that by selecting a context in which it becomes a moral imperative for the welfare of the child, a basis is formed to make an exception to the general moral rule that it is generally wrong to use force to separate kids from their parents. So even though you deflected the real question, you actually answered it. Do you agree? In order to avoid the issue of context, you can simple say yes or no.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Trying to equate these things is hideous. You have displayed the nature of your character and it is rotten.
What he said is that the morality of any particular situation is dependent on context but only if they’re is first some agreement on the morality of the general principal. You are attacking him for defending a moral principal in a context he sees it an the moral thing to do. But in the context as he has defined it he is morally right. But what you say, that he is hideous becomes correct if he believes that in general it’s OK to use force to separate kids from their families. You are condemning him for creating a context in which your moral principals would also apply so your contempt for him has immoral not yet been established based on a lack of morality, but on the supposition that he gets the context wrong because he is evil. I think he believes as much as you do that in general it is wrong to use force to separate kids from their families. Maybe he will answer and we will see.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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You are extending a lot of generosity towards someone who has not demonstrated that they will act or engage in good faith.
 

Younigue

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2017
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Saying ICE should not exist is amazingly stupid. You realize that they do more than look for illegal immigrants right?
Bullshit brad! They should be dissolved and something better put in its place.
 
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Younigue

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2017
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Hahaha nice deflection. So before you wanted to do away with ICE, and now its you wanting to do everything ICE does, but not call it ICE. Wow, that will help everything!
It will. ICE has become a symbol of hate, discrimination, near lawlessness and human rights violations. They Must Go!
 

Younigue

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2017
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BS. You were trying to discuss nothing. You said ICE should be ended. That is not an opener for a discussion. If you wanted to talk about ICE, then you should have started by saying that, not destroy it.
Brad? You could have just asked him to explain instead you decided his point was not thought out and told him he was wrong.
 

Younigue

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2017
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And you are fully aware that its not a logical fallacy right? Its a well accepted format for argument as well as a test in mathematics. Are you trying to say I should use another method, or that its somehow wrong to use it?
I (if I may jackstar) think what he's saying is your approach to "conversation" or "debate" is exhausting and tedious. We've discussed this before brad.
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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This will only become a reality if the brown people of the future become conservatives. It is the fear brain that projects threats onto others. When fear is absent so is the sense that there's such a thing as the other. We are all the same,

doesnt change the fact that low iq whites project their own fears onto others and are so fearful they would rather blow up the country.
 

Younigue

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2017
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What context? It was asked "what is the point of the list" to which you responded, to "prosecute and..." and then linked a picture of someone being executed. You sick fuck, you knew damn well the meaning. You believe ICE agents are equal to NAZIS so you felt it would be perfectly fine to say these people should be executed just like they were. Now that people are pointing out how sick that is, you are trying to say that you did not mean to execute them. But, if that were true, you would have stopped at prosecuted. That bit at the end with the picture shows your true feelings.
Stop it brad. He was being facetious and at this point you are well aware of the fact. You're beating a dead horse.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Lol, right. You are the reason ICE has not crossed that massive distance between what Nazis did and what ICE does now. You are so strong and amazing in your internet warrior armor. I might need to lay a towel down so I don't slip and fall because you have made me wetter than the Amazon.

you have a problem with reading? When did "us" turn into "you"? simple peasant.
 

Younigue

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2017
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no, its done daily by child protective services across the country when parents are thrown in jail and nobody can take over the stewardship of the kids.
Because those parents can't or won't take care of their kids ya fu*king idiot.
 

Younigue

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2017
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No no. somehow brad is the real victim in all of this.
LOL. No brad doesn't portray himself as a victim. He presents himself as perpetually confused by human emotion/beliefs outside of what he himself experiences.
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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Bullshit brad! They should be dissolved and something better put in its place.

Why? Again, ICE did nothing new when it was formed, other than put all the activities under a single body. What about breaking them up will change anything?
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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It will. ICE has become a symbol of hate, discrimination, near lawlessness and human rights violations. They Must Go!

So you want to scrap it and start over, not because you want to do something different, but because its a symbol? The cost of doing that would be insane just to destroy a symbol.
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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Brad? You could have just asked him to explain instead you decided his point was not thought out and told him he was wrong.

Young, don't do that. You know damn well his point was to say that those people should be executed. I get why you want to defend him, but come on. He was wrong and then tried to double down on it.
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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I (if I may jackstar) think what he's saying is your approach to "conversation" or "debate" is exhausting and tedious. We've discussed this before brad.

He was the one that started throwing shit around. You go after people just the same when you see it. He had no intention of starting a conversation.
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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Stop it brad. He was being facetious and at this point you are well aware of the fact. You're beating a dead horse.

No, he was not being facetious. He was not trying to be funny. You can validate that by his defending what he said. Don't make excuses for something that you yesterday said was inappropriate.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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doesnt change the fact that low iq whites project their own fears onto others and are so fearful they would rather blow up the country.

An analogous reflection of that for liberals is that it also doesn’t change the low iqs of liberals from reflect their fear of conservative fear caused hatred right back at them.

That I think then means that the only exit from this karmic turn of the wheel is to step off of it. It takes seeing that you are what you hate to do this. Naturally, if you don’t, then you remain what you hate as you mentioned.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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You are extending a lot of generosity towards someone who has not demonstrated that they will act or engage in good faith.
Perhaps what you see as generosity is for you more an effort of will than what I see it as, just the a simple and natural consequence and product of understanding.