Identities of 1,500 ICE Agents pulled from LinkedIn and published

[Younigue]

They should, but until then, afford them the respect some ICE members and Trump refuse to give.

No. Respect it's earned. By doing this work they are knowingly rejecting the idea of being respected.

 

[UNCjigga]

I disagree. Making any kind of involvement in this shit completely undesirable is a necessary step.

I disagree. Unless they are causing direct injury or bodily harm, you don't go after the front-line folks following orders, at least not until charged with a crime. You go after the people giving the orders.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't think it's about revenge. I think it's about shutting it down. If the work isn't worth the trouble, that's a good thing.

Shutting things down is entirely political. These people aren't the SS but what they are doing is wrong. That's because we haven't ejected those who are responsible. There are crazy people in the world. Would you feel better if these people or their children were harmed or killed? Yes there are those kinds of people.

As much as I despise this situation, as much as you or anyone else I would not do harm against those who have no real control.

As far as the SS goes I know from those impacted what those days were like. This isn't it. Absolutely wrong and needs to stop, but someone might just take hyperbole to heart.

 

[JSt0rm]

I disagree. Unless they are causing direct injury or bodily harm, you don't go after the front-line folks following orders, at least not until charged with a crime. You go after the people giving the orders.

thats what the soldiers working in the concentrations camps of ww2 argued.

 

[ivwshane]

I disagree. Unless they are causing direct injury or bodily harm, you don't go after the front-line folks following orders, at least not until charged with a crime. You go after the people giving the orders.

Actually you go after both. You go after the Hitler's and the ones that are giving life to his orders/policies. Without those front line folks he has no power.

 

[blackangst1]

The only one talking about revenge are you and your Jack booted thug friends.

Dont forget Hayabusa Rider and whoever he means by "we"

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

read what I said. I said give them a trial.

Why? There's no law against what these people are doing unless they beat someone or the like. But trials don't need law, all that's required is a rope, a sturdy oak and maybe some hoods.

 

[paperfist]

I didn't. I did see someone who is mad about a policy that's about as anti American as it gets.

Jesse Benn‏Verified account @JesseBenn 17h17 hours ago
but people were mad because I said it was unfortunate a border patrol agent was only wounded when he was shot. it was. these fucking jackboots deserve nothing but the worst.

 

[ivwshane]

Shutting things down is entirely political. These people aren't the SS but what they are doing is wrong. That's because we haven't ejected those who are responsible. There are crazy people in the world. Would you feel better if these people or their children were harmed or killed? Yes there are those kinds of people.

As much as I despise this situation, as much as you or anyone else I would not do harm against those who have no real control.

As far as the SS goes I know from those impacted what those days were like. This isn't it. Absolutely wrong and needs to stop, but someone might just take hyperbole to heart.

And like you and legislation, you wait for that perfect moment where things fall into place perfectly, nice and tidy.

Can you tell me when, exactly, in Germany's history they went from normal to fascist? No? Then how the fuck do you know, "this isn't it"?

 

[ivwshane]

Jesse Benn‏Verified account @JesseBenn 17h17 hours ago
but people were mad because I said it was unfortunate a border patrol agent was only wounded when he was shot. it was. these fucking jackboots deserve nothing but the worst.

And I disagree with that. Who is this guy btw?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Dont forget Hayabusa Rider and whoever he means by "we"

"We" are anyone who embraces the harm of another and/or dehumanizes them and makes them "hitlar". These workers are no where near that, but people who have no idea of real human suffering, seen it first hand, haven't the sense to understand.

 

[JSt0rm]

Why? There's no law against what these people are doing unless they beat someone or the like. But trials don't need law, all that's required is a rope, a sturdy oak and maybe some hoods.

you sure about that? At worst these people have committed a misdemeanor. Are you a lawyer? Do you understand the nuances of what the penalty for that is?

 

[Victorian Gray]

This guy was just an accountant.

"Oskar Gröning, 94, looked on impassively as judge Frank Kompisch delivered the verdict, calling it “justice, not revenge” and telling him while he had not been directly involved in the killings he had been an integral cog in the machine of the Auschwitz extermination apparatus.

He said Gröning had taken a “safe whitecollar job at a desk which gave you certain protection ... in a machinery designed entirely for the killing of humans” that was “inhumane and all but unbearable for the human psyche”.

While the SS had been reliant on some to carry out sadistic acts, Gröning, in his capacity as a bookkeeper – who was responsible for collecting money found in prisoners’ clothing and luggage before recording it in a ledger – had been important “precisely because of your education. Rather than being sent to the front, it was important for the war effort that you had this duty in Auschwitz,” Kompisch said."

....

"He emphasised how Gröning’s role had helped ensure the smooth running of an extremely efficient machine of death and deception, including making sure that new arrivals were not given the impression they were about to be sent to the gas chambers. This, he said, referring to evidence given during the trial by historians, would have caused panic and a potential breakdown of the system.

Gröning, he said, was typical of many who had contributed to the success of the Nazi’s final solution operation, which had been “perfectly planned so that it had many different parts with the aim of making sure that no single person can be considered responsible for everything”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...oning-auschwitz-jailed-for-the-of-300000-jews

 

[realibrad]

give them their day in court.

Oh, your post with an imagine of a man being executed was really you saying they needed to through a trial. Lol okay.

 

[JSt0rm]

and do you give people a penalty before a trial?

Fuck off nazi biatch.

 

[ivwshane]

I don't doubt that sarcasm in plain sight escapes you, being an ideologue.

Well apparently you don't know what sarcasm is because you just doubled down.

The word you are looking for is hyperbole and my point still stands.

Why? There's no law against what these people are doing unless they beat someone or the like. But trials don't need law, all that's required is a rope, a sturdy oak and maybe some hoods.

 

[JSt0rm]

Oh, your post with an imagine of a man being executed was really you saying they needed to through a trial. Lol okay.

that was the result of the nuremberg trials. Im sorry you dont understand history but its not my job to make sure you are up to speed.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Didnt see a physical threat there. Do you think psychological damaging would hurt them?

I didn't. I did see someone who is mad about a policy that's about as anti American as it gets.

You guys do know that spitting on someone's food is Battery in many states right? The physical action need not be direct. I don't know why either of you wouldn't see that.

 

[blackangst1]

"We" are anyone who embraces the harm of another and/or dehumanizes them and makes them "hitlar". These workers are no where near that, but people who have no idea of real human suffering, seen it first hand, haven't the sense to understand.

Thats a long explanation for justification of "revenge".

 

[ivwshane]

Dont forget Hayabusa Rider and whoever he means by "we"

Right wing terrorist, you know, those that are an actual threat to us and who have a recent history of violence against Americans (ironically, just like your examples).

 

[realibrad]

that was the result of the nuremberg trials. Im sorry you dont understand history but its not my job to make sure you are up to speed.

Oh, so ICE agents are the same as Nazis. Fuck the IT guy that maintains the laptops at his small office. That guy is a fucking Nazi and should be killed like the Nazis were.

 

[blackangst1]

Right wing terrorist, you know, those that are an actual threat to us and who have a recent history of violence against Americans (ironically, just like your examples).

So ICE employees are right wing terrorists now? LOL

 

[ivwshane]

You guys do know that spitting on someone's food is Battery in many states right? The physical action need not be direct. I don't know why either of you wouldn't see that.

I didn't advocate breaking any laws, I don't know you don't see that. In fact I said I was against any physical violence or threat.

Maybe try another straw man.

 

[JSt0rm]

"We" are anyone who embraces the harm of another and/or dehumanizes them and makes them "hitlar". These workers are no where near that, but people who have no idea of real human suffering, seen it first hand, haven't the sense to understand.

thats pretty rich considering what these people are doing to others.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

And like you and legislation, you wait for that perfect moment where things fall into place perfectly, nice and tidy.

Can you tell me when, exactly, in Germany's history they went from normal to fascist? No? Then how the fuck do you know, "this isn't it"?

You know if you are going to lie I'm going to call you on it. Precisely where did I say that only legislation as I suggest is the ONLY course of action? When I was pointed to action being taken did I suggest we don't put pressure on Trump. I don't suggest we don't get out there like Merkley. I don't suggest that these dems making a statement in public are wasting their time, hell I was calling for it while you were making excused, just as you are now.

Here's a piece of advice. Don't get in your car and drive over a cliff. We'll wait for the obituary.