Identities of 1,500 ICE Agents pulled from LinkedIn and published

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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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You know if you are going to lie I'm going to call you on it. Precisely where did I say that only legislation as I suggest is the ONLY course of action? When I was pointed to action being taken did I suggest we don't put pressure on Trump. I don't suggest we don't get out there like Merkley. I don't suggest that these dems making a statement in public are wasting their time, hell I was calling for it while you were making excused, just as you are now.

Here's a piece of advice. Don't get in your car and drive over a cliff. We'll wait for the obituary.

time to backpeddle.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Why? There's no law against what these people are doing unless they beat someone or the like.
I'm not so sure. If (and that's an important if) they are incarcerating toddlers and then not giving them the correct care (three were reports of them refusing to change the children or even touch them) then that has to cross some child abuse laws.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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So ICE employees are right wing terrorists now? LOL

Oh shit! Is this really hard to follow for you? Or are you doing your best incorruptible impression right now?

The only people committing/threatening violence right now are right wing extremists. That is unless you think that pussy hats and campus rallies are a form of violence.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Jun 8, 2005
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I didn't advocate breaking any laws, I don't know you don't see that. In fact I said I was against any physical violence or threat.

Maybe try another straw man.

Jst0rm said "Didnt see a physical threat there." and you said "I didn't", which I took to mean that you were saying you didn't see any physical threat in the twitter statement, when there absolutely was. If that's not what you meant, then you have my apology.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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you sure about that? At worst these people have committed a misdemeanor. Are you a lawyer? Do you understand the nuances of what the penalty for that is?

What I know is that the prosecution- you- have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime has been committed. Please find the relevant law that makes these people criminals. I don't have to be a lawyer to expect that, or are you just going to reach for the rope?
 

WHAMPOM

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Feb 28, 2006
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You must understand this, there can be a mile of difference between "Justice" and "Law." By "Law" the Trail of Tears and the Holocaust were just dandy.
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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What I know is that the prosecution- you- have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime has been committed. Please find the relevant law that makes these people criminals. I don't have to be a lawyer to expect that, or are you just going to reach for the rope?

i said to give them a trial. If you can put doubt in the minds of a jury then they walk. If they cant then they should feel the full force of the law.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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You know if you are going to lie I'm going to call you on it. Precisely where did I say that only legislation as I suggest is the ONLY course of action? When I was pointed to action being taken did I suggest we don't put pressure on Trump. I don't suggest we don't get out there like Merkley. I don't suggest that these dems making a statement in public are wasting their time, hell I was calling for it while you were making excused, just as you are now.

Here's a piece of advice. Don't get in your car and drive over a cliff. We'll wait for the obituary.

Lol. Try reading again. I said nothing about legislation you suggest. I said legislation you deemed perfect and I stand by that.

Making excuses? Who is this poster you keep talking about? Stop lying and making up shit.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Oh shit! Is this really hard to follow for you? Or are you doing your best incorruptible impression right now?

The only people committing/threatening violence right now are right wing extremists. That is unless you think that pussy hats and campus rallies are a form of violence.

So ICE agents int he field? Im trying to get a handle on who you are calling "right wing terrorists"?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Jan 26, 2000
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I'm not so sure. If (and that's an important if) they are incarcerating toddlers and then not giving them the correct care (three were reports of them refusing to change the children or even touch them) then that has to cross some child abuse laws.

My point is predicated on not abusing children. as you suggest. Those who can't act like humans even in those conditions should face the appropriate penalties. How many IT people for ICE would fall into that category? There was no differentiation in the release of information if that ever mattered.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Lol. Try reading again. I said nothing about legislation you suggest. I said legislation you deemed perfect and I stand by that.

Making excuses? Who is this poster you keep talking about? Stop lying and making up shit.

Well that's irrelevant. Now it's not ideas or actions but what I approve of. Go hate some ICE window washer.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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i said to give them a trial. If you can put doubt in the minds of a jury then they walk. If they cant then they should feel the full force of the law.

Give them a trial for some law you can't cite. Fascinating.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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So ICE agents int he field? Im trying to get a handle on who you are calling "right wing terrorists"?

God, a forum were posts are laid out chronologically and people are able to respond to particular posts by quoting them, must be really hard for you to follow.

I'll dumb it down for you as best I can but I do by have a lot of hope for you (sorry snowflake):

Another poster claimed that outing of information about ICE agents would lead to violence and I responded that the only people offering up violence in political movements are right wingers.

Do you get it now or do you need pictures?
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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My point is predicated on not abusing children. as you suggest. Those who can't act like humans even in those conditions should face the appropriate penalties. How many IT people for ICE would fall into that category? There was no differentiation in the release of information if that ever mattered.
Theres plenty of examples of people going to jail for doing things that are only illegal because they are linked to a criminal organisation.
Being an accountant for the mafia isnt ok just because you're only doing accounts.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Well that's irrelevant. Now it's not ideas or actions but what I approve of. Go hate some ICE window washer.

No thanks, I'll hate on the guy who is so politically broken that he constantly hates on the "team" that actually advocates and pushes for legislation he agrees with.

If these atrocities continue because Congress can't stop it, I'll continue shaming them and those that support them and those that put action to policy including ICE window washers.

You on the other hand can continue dry cleaning those brown shirts you supposedly hate so much.

Fucking enablers.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Theres plenty of examples of people going to jail for doing things that are only illegal because they are linked to a criminal organisation.
Being an accountant for the mafia isnt ok just because you're only doing accounts.

I don't like any of this but just like there isn't a law mandating separation does not mean there's one against it and there needs to be. Precisely what law did the IT person break? Police kill innocent people. What do we send the dispactcher to jail for, and in this case a crime is actually committed. If we're going to make progress we need to get the semantics straight.
 
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Medium.com pulled the story down almost immediately, but it can still be seen, and I believe the code to do this is available at github.

Remember that these are public profiles, nothing was hacked or stolen. https://twitter.com/jessebenn/status/1009169660082733056

I think this is a good start, obviously there are a lot more than 1,500 people working for ICE. But by exhaustively interrogating those 1,500, and then cross checking, you can probably construct a pretty clear picture of who worked for the organization and when.

Hello...Russia......
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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Hello...Russia......

I think it's wonderful that "our side", that is those who oppose Trump can be so much like him when it comes to the rule of law. We can even prosecute and try people without being able to demonstrate law was broken.

Back in the USSR!
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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I don't think it's about revenge. I think it's about shutting it down. If the work isn't worth the trouble, that's a good thing.

This will end well once there’s a new admin and the right adopts this tactic. Don’t like welfare? Dox a few thousand people at HHS and “shut it down.” Not like one party doesn’t historically have far greater antipathy towards governmental functions after all.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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This will end well once there’s a new admin and the right adopts this tactic. Don’t like welfare? Dox a few thousand people at HHS and “shut it down.” Not like one party doesn’t historically have far greater antipathy towards governmental functions after all.
When jackbooted thugs are on the line, out comes your compassion, you fascist fuck.