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K1052

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Baffling that any reasonable person could look at that and think "yes, this seems perfectly fine".

The idea that it's ok for the US government to ship whoever it likes to a country that they are not from where they could be sold into real life slavery is one of the grossest things I've ever fucking seen. Reprehensible scumbags who should not know a moments peace for the rest of their miserable lives.
 

VashHT

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Baffling that any reasonable person could look at that and think "yes, this seems perfectly fine".
Too many people have guzzled down the propaganda that were being invaded by immigrants and the border was wide open during Biden's term. It's not true but I see people saying he let in 21 million people all the time. Of course I wouldn't call those people reasonable but here we are.
 

Greenman

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Too many people have guzzled down the propaganda that were being invaded by immigrants and the border was wide open during Biden's term. It's not true but I see people saying he let in 21 million people all the time. Of course I wouldn't call those people reasonable but here we are.
Looks like 10 million is the magic number, or just over 6800 a day if you prefer smaller numbers. Would any other nation on the planet tolerate that?
 

nakedfrog

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Looks like 10 million is the magic number, or just over 6800 a day if you prefer smaller numbers. Would any other nation on the planet tolerate that?
As far as I'm aware, the current estimated undocumented immigrant population in the USA is 11 million (per Homeland Security).
 

brycejones

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Looks like 10 million is the magic number, or just over 6800 a day if you prefer smaller numbers. Would any other nation on the planet tolerate that?
So your claim is during Biden’s administration the undocumented population in the us grew by 10 million? What is your source?
 
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outriding

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So your claim is during Biden’s administration the undocumented population in the us grew by 10 million? What is your source?

I fucking hate the pieces of shit that put opinions on government websites. There should be a law against that…

But anyways. 6.7 million from the heritage foundation “think tank” researcher
 

HomerJS

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I want to say one more time, want this shit to stop? Note to Democratic Governers: snatch a Proud Boy and disappear them.

As the Feds claim with Hispanic PB are a known gang terrorist organization. Start disappearing them and watch this shit stop.
 

K1052

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I want to say one more time, want this shit to stop? Note to Democratic Governers: snatch a Proud Boy and disappear them.

As the Feds claim with Hispanic PB are a known gang terrorist organization. Start disappearing them and watch this shit stop.

Start pulling over and arresting DHS who's operating registered vehicles without license plates or changing plates to avoid detection. Both of which are against the law.
 

HomerJS

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Looks like 10 million is the magic number, or just over 6800 a day if you prefer smaller numbers. Would any other nation on the planet tolerate that?
Is Trump trying to eliminate criminal undocumented or racial profiling Hispanics, a great many citizens just to reach a number?
 
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VashHT

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Looks like 10 million is the magic number, or just over 6800 a day if you prefer smaller numbers. Would any other nation on the planet tolerate that?
Doesn't change the fact that right wingers are lying about it, the vast majority of these people are not criminals and a lot of them would be legal residents if our immigration program wasn't total shit in this country. What exactly is the problem with more people coming here, we have plenty of space and most of these people just want to work. In another thread you were bemoaning the lack of tradespeople in this country, maybe instead of hoping for other people to lose their jobs and be forced into trades we should let more people immigrate here to do those jobs.

Also, do you agree with the way this admin is going about this? Do you really think masked thugs who refuse to identify themselves going around kidnapping people is the answer? I'm pretty sure you're one of the people claiming you support legal immigration, how do you feel about ICE arresting people who are following the immigration laws here?
 

dainthomas

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The idea that it's ok for the US government to ship whoever it likes to a country that they are not from where they could be sold into real life slavery is one of the grossest things I've ever fucking seen. Reprehensible scumbags who should not know a moments peace for the rest of their miserable lives.

The tribunals in 2029 can't come soon enough.
 
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K1052

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In another thread you were bemoaning the lack of tradespeople in this country, maybe instead of hoping for other people to lose their jobs and be forced into trades we should let more people immigrate here to do those jobs.

The average American yearns to work at the meat packing plant or to reshingle a roof in 100F weather. These are just facts.
 

JD50

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Doesn't change the fact that right wingers are lying about it, the vast majority of these people are not criminals and a lot of them would be legal residents if our immigration program wasn't total shit in this country. What exactly is the problem with more people coming here, we have plenty of space and most of these people just want to work. In another thread you were bemoaning the lack of tradespeople in this country, maybe instead of hoping for other people to lose their jobs and be forced into trades we should let more people immigrate here to do those jobs.

Also, do you agree with the way this admin is going about this? Do you really think masked thugs who refuse to identify themselves going around kidnapping people is the answer? I'm pretty sure you're one of the people claiming you support legal immigration, how do you feel about ICE arresting people who are following the immigration laws here?
It's all about cruelty. He thinks blue collar workers are better than white collar workers, so he wants them to lose their jobs to be forced into working blue collar jobs that they don't want to do. He doesn't like immigrants, so he'd rather break up their families and deport them than let them stay here and work blue collar jobs.

The obvious solution is exactly what you said, allow people to come here who want to work the jobs that we need. But that's thinking like a normal, compassionate person, instead of just an asshole.
 

K1052

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It's all about cruelty. He thinks blue collar workers are better than white collar workers, so he wants them to lose their jobs to be forced into working blue collar jobs that they don't want to do. He doesn't like immigrants, so he'd rather break up their families and deport them than let them stay here and work blue collar jobs.

The obvious solution is exactly what you said, allow people to come here who want to work the jobs that we need. But that's thinking like a normal, compassionate person, instead of just an asshole.

My ancestors moved to America and worked hard so that I could sit on my ass inside enjoying air conditioning and to send an email like every 5 minutes. This was 100% the goal for their descendants. You know what they would say to people who think my family should be involuntarily shoved down the ladder because of culture war nonsense? The equivalent of "get fucked" in their native language.
 

pete6032

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Looks like 10 million is the magic number, or just over 6800 a day if you prefer smaller numbers. Would any other nation on the planet tolerate that?
The US population was 332 million in 2021, and 340 million in 2024 when Biden left office.