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Jaskalas

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ICE murders Cuban man, for the crime of needing medication.

Medical Examiner's Office Says Death Of Cuban Man In ICE Custody Was Likely Homicide

An employee for the medical examiner's office said a doctor there "is listing the preliminary cause of death as asphyxia due to neck and chest compression."
The agency said Lunas Campos was placed in segregation after he "became disruptive while in line for medication and refused to return to his assigned dorm."
But a fellow detainee, Santos Jesus Flores, said he saw five guards choking Lunas Campos after he resisted entering the segregation unit, saying he didn't have his medications.
 
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pete6032

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ICE murders Cuban man, for the crime of needing medication.

Medical Examiner's Office Says Death Of Cuban Man In ICE Custody Was Likely Homicide

An employee for the medical examiner's office said a doctor there "is listing the preliminary cause of death as asphyxia due to neck and chest compression."
The agency said Lunas Campos was placed in segregation after he "became disruptive while in line for medication and refused to return to his assigned dorm."
But a fellow detainee, Santos Jesus Flores, said he saw five guards choking Lunas Campos after he resisted entering the segregation unit, saying he didn't have his medications.
I fear we are headed toward a level of violence not seen in this country in hundreds of years, and conservatives are excited about it.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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I think it's exactly what he wants. Any non white people gets exempted. And if not, it was his/hers fault, because he/she's a dem, trans, gay, activist, woke, and deserved it!
Blood and soil show me your papers nazism is precisely what @Greenman voted for. I don't believe he has a sub room temperature IQ so he knew this was what was coming if his man won.
 

MrSquished

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No laws apply to ICE basically. Just add it to the list of shit they are doing illegally.

Literal proud boys are in ICE, including Enrique Tarrio, their leader or former leader, he is actually in ICE.

They are severely failing to meet their recruiting goals even though the standards are next to nothing. This is why they are focusing on terrorizing a smaller city like Minneapolis. Sure they do smaller operations in bigger cities, but that is much different than what they want to do - they simply don't have the manpower. That is why they are not fucking with NYC - they'll get run out of town. I'm not sure they will ever reach their recruiting goals for ICE - they will need the military, and that is the million dollar question - what will the military do if ordered to become ICE in our cities.
 

Muse

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No laws apply to ICE basically. Just add it to the list of shit they are doing illegally.

Literal proud boys are in ICE, including Enrique Tarrio, their leader or former leader, he is actually in ICE.

They are severely failing to meet their recruiting goals even though the standards are next to nothing. This is why they are focusing on terrorizing a smaller city like Minneapolis. Sure they do smaller operations in bigger cities, but that is much different than what they want to do - they simply don't have the manpower. That is why they are not fucking with NYC - they'll get run out of town. I'm not sure they will ever reach their recruiting goals for ICE - they will need the military, and that is the million dollar question - what will the military do if ordered to become ICE in our cities.
...they will need the military, and that is the million dollar question - what will the military do if ordered to become ICE in our cities.

That would not be popular with the general public. Or the military, I figure.
 

Fenixgoon

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A $20 limit, as a government contractor. Had to report Fn free lunches.
I remember one of my first "program" meetings as a federal employee was to review requirements with the contractor. At lunchtime they said that federal employees must put $5 in a hat to pay for lunch. Being very new, i thought it was some kind of joke. The government is paying for all this shit already. The contractor isnt participating in this for free.

But thems the rules as a lowly peon.
 

IronWing

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I remember one of my first "program" meetings as a federal employee was to review requirements with the contractor. At lunchtime they said that federal employees must put $5 in a hat to pay for lunch. Being very new, i thought it was some kind of joke. The government is paying for all this shit already. The contractor isnt participating in this for free.

But thems the rules as a lowly peon.
Congress-critters don't like to share.
 
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I remember one of my first "program" meetings as a federal employee was to review requirements with the contractor. At lunchtime they said that federal employees must put $5 in a hat to pay for lunch. Being very new, i thought it was some kind of joke. The government is paying for all this shit already. The contractor isnt participating in this for free.

But thems the rules as a lowly peon.
But it's like that because at some point in the past, a contractor or federal employee was doing really corrupt shit. But for some reason, the Party of Fiscal and Personal Responsibility doesn't seem to give a shit about that stuff.
 

BoomerD

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ICE murders Cuban man, for the crime of needing medication.

Medical Examiner's Office Says Death Of Cuban Man In ICE Custody Was Likely Homicide

An employee for the medical examiner's office said a doctor there "is listing the preliminary cause of death as asphyxia due to neck and chest compression."
The agency said Lunas Campos was placed in segregation after he "became disruptive while in line for medication and refused to return to his assigned dorm."
But a fellow detainee, Santos Jesus Flores, said he saw five guards choking Lunas Campos after he resisted entering the segregation unit, saying he didn't have his medications.

From the AP:
A Cuban immigrant died in a Texas immigration detention facility earlier this month during an altercation with guards, and the local medical examiner has indicated that his death will likely be classified as a homicide.

The federal government has provided a differing account surrounding the Jan. 3 death of Geraldo Lunas Campos, saying the detainee was attempting suicide and staff tried to save him.

A witness told The Associated Press that Lunas Campos died after he was handcuffed, tackled by guards and placed in a chokehold until he lost consciousness. The immigrant’s family was told by the El Paso County Medical Examiner’s Office on Wednesday that a preliminary autopsy report said the death was a homicide resulting from asphyxia from chest and neck compression, according to a recording of the call reviewed by the AP.
On the day he died, according to ICE, Lunas Campos became disruptive while in line for medication and refused to return to his assigned dorm. He was then taken to the segregation block.

“While in segregation, staff observed him in distress and contacted on-site medical personnel for assistance,” the agency said in its Jan. 9 release. “Medical staff responded, initiated lifesaving measures, and requested emergency medical services.”

Lunas Campos was pronounced dead after paramedics arrived.

Flores said that account omitted key details — Lunas Campos was already handcuffed when at least five guards pinned him to the floor, and at least one squeezed his arm around the detainee’s neck.


Within about five minutes, Flores said, Lunas Campos was no longer moving.

“After he stopped breathing, they removed the handcuffs,” Flores said.

Flores is not represented by a lawyer and said he has already consented to deportation to his home country. Though he acknowledged he was taking a risk by speaking to the AP, Flores said he wanted to highlight that “in this place, guards abuse people a lot.”

He said multiple detainees in the unit witnessed the altercation, and security cameras there should have captured the events. Flores also said investigators had not interviewed him.

We had to kill him to prevent him from committing suicide!
 

sandorski

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The idea that some might commit suicide is very possible. Your whole life being destroyed unexpectedly is quite the shock.
 

Jaskalas

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Why are we giving credit to the words of the Nazis?
Like, you are not wrong. It's always a possibility.
But so is murder. Especially with these folks.

We don't need to be "fair and balanced" and pretend that their word holds equal weight. It shouldn't.
Not when they proclaim the right to murder Renee Good. That's not their only fabrication in the pursuit of bloodshed.
 

sandorski

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Why are we giving credit to the words of the Nazis?
Like, you are not wrong. It's always a possibility.
But so is murder. Especially with these folks.

We don't need to be "fair and balanced" and pretend that their word holds equal weight. It shouldn't.
Not when they proclaim the right to murder Renee Good. That's not their only fabrication in the pursuit of bloodshed.
It just struck me as a thing that could happen. A curiosity. You're right though, cover up happens before details are even known.
 

HomerJS

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Minnesota woman claims ICE agents said they'd 'put a bullet in my head' if she 'didn't shut up' in horror video​


A video shows a group of Minnesotans confronting some ICE agents alleging that they threatened to shoot at them, including a child​


 
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