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feralkid

feralkid

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kage69 said:
The people who shelter and protect pedophiles are infuriated that someone would allow peaceful protestors to use their bathroom.


Seems about right for Team Treason.
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Yep, and lest we forget, this is the party with some decidedly weird notions/fixations regarding bathroom use.
Like, was this one of those liberal bathrooms that allow any and all genders to use?
You know, like the ones *everyone* has in their home?
 
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MrSquished

MrSquished

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KMFJD said:
newrepublic.com

Democrats Begin to Cave on Their Simplest ICE Demand

Why the hell are Democratic leaders giving up on a mask ban for federal immigration agents?
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

ah well they tried

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Maybe they're going to trade the mask thing for the subsidies and give people health care back!

Oh wait no they just ghosted on those.

Fucking piece of shit party.

Anyways half this shit is law already and they're breaking it. It's all nonsense, these people are a waste of our time. They're still behaving like we're just living in a regular administration where you make bipartisan deals, mostly bad deals for you but you know it's give and take ,and people stick to the deals and.....folks, these Democrats are fucking oblivious cowardly clueless feckless Muppets.

Please call your Dem establishment representatives and tell them off. And the DNCC. Do your jobs constituents
 
Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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cytg111 said:
I dont understand why the sane part of the dem party is not in open warfare with the rotten part.
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Because there is little to gain forming a circular firing squad when you are in the minority. They're trying to extract concessions from an intransigent majority, and the only real levers are public opinion and who you can peel off on the edges. It's also legislative negotiations - no one really likes to see how the sausage is made.
 
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HomerJS

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Brainonska511 said:
Because there is little to gain forming a circular firing squad when you are in the minority. They're trying to extract concessions from an intransigent majority, and the only real levers are public opinion and who you can peel off on the edges. It's also legislative negotiations - no one really likes to see how the sausage is made.
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Then shutdown all DHS funding until they get the concessions. Force Republicans to break the filibuster and that will be like the critical mass of the Demon Core.

And Democrats wonder why their base is pissed at them.
 
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MrSquished

MrSquished

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Brainonska511 said:
Because there is little to gain forming a circular firing squad when you are in the minority. They're trying to extract concessions from an intransigent majority, and the only real levers are public opinion and who you can peel off on the edges. It's also legislative negotiations - no one really likes to see how the sausage is made.
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Did you have Chat GPT just generate you a million answers to your query "how to defend the indefensible corrupt and cowardly Dem establishment" and just keep posting them here?
 
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MrSquished said:
Did you have Chat GPT just generate you a million answers to your query "how to defend the indefensible corrupt and cowardly Dem establishment" and just keep posting them here?
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What is it, exactly, that you wish for Democrats to do? Is it your opinion that the only option at this point is full scale guns and 'splosions civil war? Should the Democrats swarm the capitol and attempt to overthrow the current government?
 
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Brainonska511

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HomerJS said:
Then shutdown all DHS funding until they get the concessions. Force Republicans to break the filibuster and that will be like the critical mass of the Demon Core.

And Democrats wonder why their base is pissed at them.
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It's kind of a shit sword though.

The OBBBA has a huge pot of money to find ICE and CBP operations through 2028. Shutting DHS down doesn't stop that. It lets them keep doing all the sorts of shit that they have been doing. I would note recent iterations on DHS funding have included restrictions to some degree or another - it's just now public sentiment might allow Democrats to get more.

There are also plenty of reasons to not break the filibuster right now, like blocking the SAVE act and other bs, even if the filibuster is a bad thing for good government.
 
MrSquished

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Jebeelzabub said:
What is it, exactly, that you wish for Democrats to do? Is it your opinion that the only option at this point is full scale guns and 'splosions civil war? Should the Democrats swarm the capitol and attempt to overthrow the current government?
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Feel free to search my posts, I have stated it many times at this point. And no, nothing even close to what you say, as IF those are the only two options. Never have I condoned violence in anything I wish the opposition party shoulld do.There is much more the Dems can do and they aren't.
 
Jaskalas

Jaskalas

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MrSquished said:
Feel free to search my posts, I have stated it many times at this point. And no, nothing even close to what you say, as IF those are the only two options. Never have I condoned violence in anything I wish the opposition party shoulld do.There is much more the Dems can do and they aren't.
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I'd rather it not come to violence.
But knowing how MAGA Nazis think, there won't be any other outcome. We can stay as passive as a pillow. They will keep drawing more blood until we stop them.
When I speak, I speak of where they will take the nation from here. Lot of people don't want to see it. But after Jan 6th, I can no longer be blinded by optimism. Death will come for us all.
 
nakedfrog

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hal2kilo said:
Hell I saw government sponsored advertising on the box telling the world what a wonderful service ICE is doing for the country, of course paid for by you and me.
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Yeah, they've apparently been running DHS anti-immigration ads on local radio, and they're apparently legally obligated to do so for reasons I don't specifically recall.
 
cytg111

cytg111

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Brainonska511 said:
Because there is little to gain forming a circular firing squad when you are in the minority. They're trying to extract concessions from an intransigent majority, and the only real levers are public opinion and who you can peel off on the edges. It's also legislative negotiations - no one really likes to see how the sausage is made.
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It's what Trump did in the 4 years he was out. He cleaned house. Everyone not a loyalist -> OUT.
Dems should do the same. Get rid of all the DINO's. Populists like Mamdani is the future. Everyone else married to big PAC money -> out.
 
Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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cytg111 said:
It's what Trump did in the 4 years he was out. He cleaned house. Everyone not a loyalist -> OUT.
Dems should do the same. Get rid of all the DINO's. Populists like Mamdani is the future. Everyone else married to big PAC money -> out.
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And by what mechanism can you kick people out? American parties are not UK parties. You don't need the Party's permission to run in a primary or win the seat under their banner.
 
MrSquished

MrSquished

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KMFJD said:
https://bsky.app/profile/alexip718.com%2Fpost%2F3me7hhx4lts2s

it seems people like the abolish ice messanging better than the same old shit
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Been watching this race actually since it's in my state. The progressive candidate winning is the only one that raised her hand out of all of them when asked if what's happening in Palestine is a genocide. Bernie endorsed. The guy the Democrats shut out because he actually wants real systemic change.

The DNC wants their rank and file cowards, and they're still votes to be counted but it's too close to call. But the actual progressive has the lead. I really hope she wins and Chucky the netanyahi blowjob giver, who cares about Israeli genocide more than average Americans, has a fucking stroke of she wins

The DNC is so corrupt. Can't stand any of them. Fuck them all.
 
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