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I7 920 (1st Gen) OC @ 3.6 Ghz looking for upgrade

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john3850 said:
When I run IBT the linpack the output speed in GFlops is double on the 3770k compered to the x58 with the same speed memory why is that then.
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Because IBT can take advantage of the AVX instructions. Run something without AVX like cinebench and the extra 2 cores win.
 
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scannall said:
It's only obsolete if it can't do what you need to get done. And performance wise I'd hardly call it crap. Upgrade early in a socket's life cycle, not at the end.

The PCIe SSD and the DDR4 are 'The Next Big Thing' as it were. What he currently has meets his needs and then some. It only makes sense to limit his upgrade to the Xeon, which is competitive with the 4770. Not to mention very little money.

To go out and spend a ton of money on a new rig that uses a soon to be replaced socket, and before the DDR4 and PCIe SSD's have a chance to come down in price would be foolish.
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How is X99 soon to be replaced? With what? X99 is not LGA, its not chucked every year.
 
escrow4 said:
How is X99 soon to be replaced? With what? X99 is not LGA, its not chucked every year.
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Skylake uses a different socket and chipset. All your 1150 socket motherboards won't work with Skylake and beyond. Nor will your Broadwell, Haswell etc CPU's work in the new socket. As cool as x99 is, it's at the end of the 1150 socket life cycle.
 
scannall said:
Skylake uses a different socket and chipset. All your 1150 socket motherboards won't work with Skylake and beyond. Nor will your Broadwell, Haswell etc CPU's work in the new socket. As cool as x99 is, it's at the end of the 1150 socket life cycle.
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Except that it Haswell-E is socket 2011-3..., and Broadwell-E will also be on this socket.
 
jihe said:
Because IBT can take advantage of the AVX instructions. Run something without AVX like cinebench and the extra 2 cores win.
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Bingo. In real world usage these six cores are beasts, even against modern CPUs, especially when overclocked. For $60-$120, there is no compelling reason to upgrade if you already have a decent X58 platform. Once pcie based ssd becomes standard and DDR4 is mature there will absolutely be a compelling reason, but we're a ways out on that.
 
I have the same CPU, it ran BF4 fine but was struggling in Plaentside 2 until they released the O:FMG patch. Now I'm hanging in there waiting for Skylake to upgrade.
 
escrow4 said:
Why go from old crap to old crap? If you are upgrading go X99.
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cuz the 60 dollars may hold him out to skylake...
Skylake launch is too close for him to honestly buy a X99 system.

Edit: Oh seems like he already purchased it...

Well, its a solid purchase.... im sure you wont be unhappy with it.
 
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scannall said:
Skylake uses a different socket and chipset. All your 1150 socket motherboards won't work with Skylake and beyond. Nor will your Broadwell, Haswell etc CPU's work in the new socket. As cool as x99 is, it's at the end of the 1150 socket life cycle.
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X99 is LGA-2011 v3 NOT 1150. Its entirely different. Its a rejigged enterprise socket. As for Skylake will it have 10 SATA ports at launch native? Plus all those extras X99 packs into an ATX (never mind E-ATX boards)? X99 is standalone, its gotten nothing to do with tired old mainstream quads that are 5% faster (if that).
 
escrow4 said:
X99 is LGA-2011 v3 NOT 1150. Its entirely different. Its a rejigged enterprise socket. As for Skylake will it have 10 SATA ports at launch native? Plus all those extras X99 packs into an ATX (never mind E-ATX boards)? X99 is standalone, its gotten nothing to do with tired old mainstream quads that are 5% faster (if that).
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i think he's under the assumption that when skylake has a E counter part, the current X99 platform will not work for it.

And Intel has done a royally good job at screwing the customer on many occasions on boards.

Shall i list them?

It all started on the 473 socket -> 945 socket -> 965 socket -> LGA775 (socket 945 and 965 were basically identical... but intel said they absolutely required it ... ok.. fine..)
LGA775 -> LGA1156 / LGA1366 was the last stable upgrade we had..

From 1156 (i7-860) -> 1155 (i7-2600K) -> 1155 B3 (i7-3770K) -> 1150(i7-4770K) -> newer 1150 to accept the i7-4790K series. (we have had way too many socket revisions from LGA1155 -> 1150 (devils canyon) its just ridiculous at this point.)

On the other side the E side.. it hasn't been as bad.. but... 1366 -> 2011 -> X99 2011-V3 (to accept the BW-E) however at least we got DDR4 on X79 -> X99 transition, so i guess it could be considered a worthwhile transition.
 
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escrow4 said:
X99 is LGA-2011 v3 NOT 1150. Its entirely different. Its a rejigged enterprise socket. As for Skylake will it have 10 SATA ports at launch native? Plus all those extras X99 packs into an ATX (never mind E-ATX boards)? X99 is standalone, its gotten nothing to do with tired old mainstream quads that are 5% faster (if that).
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Yeh I also think he means x99 being a dead socket, since Broadwell seems unable to reach higher clock speeds.

Intel may simply skip Broadwell for X99 - leaving the current Haswell-E CPU's as the last and only CPU generation for x99.
 
The ability for you guys to get drop in replacement 32nm 6C/12T CPUs is amazing, especially for the price.

I would've done just that if I already had the board, but that's just me.
 
mdzapeer said:
Skylake-E and its platform is atleast 2-3 yrs down the line, by my estimate of Intel's history.
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That's a long time to wait for a new chipset. I love my Asus P6X58D Premium/x5660 but I don't really want to wait 3 more years. If Broadwell-E doesn't end up showing up that would kind of suck. Almost tempted to build Haswell-E/X99 now and delegate this x58 machine to other things. USB 3 has never worked right on my board and sata3 would be really nice to have finally.
 
Windows 10 tech preview has no issues recognizing X58 hardware & while NEC USB 3.0 isn't quite as fast as native USB 3.0, it tested to be twice as fast as USB 2.0 here.
 
Burpo said:
Windows 10 tech preview has no issues recognizing X58 hardware & while NEC USB 3.0 isn't quite as fast as native USB 3.0, it tested to be twice as fast as USB 2.0 here.
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My Asus P6X58D Premium USB 3.0 ports have always run at 2.0 speeds. The most I can get from the 3.0 ports on that board has been like 30MB/sec. I've tried various firmware and drivers without success. Don't really know what the deal is with it. It's never worked right.
 
Burpo said:
Same here.. until Windows 10.. now 67mbs (min) to usb flash drive..
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That's interesting. So just installing Win 10 doubled your speed.
That's still half of what usb 3.0 is rated at though. If they were real USB 3.0 ports you should be able to get around 120MB/sec.
 
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