i5 2500k asus extreme 3 gen 3 and hyper 212 evo

[toyota]

and again there is no such thing as a stock voltage setting when you overclock. you either leave it on auto or you manually adjust it to what you believe is good enough. if someone says that have overclocked on stock voltage then that usually means they never touched the voltage setting and just left it on auto. if they did adjust the voltage then they say what voltage they are using.

 

[fastamdman]

You are still wrong and now its annoying me. Think about it like this. What is the STOCK voltage the cpu runs at 33x, 1.25volts. Now what is the STOCK voltage at 40x, 1.25. What is the AUTO voltage at 33x, 1.25, what is the AUTO voltage at 40x, 1.4 *roughly changes from board to board etc*.

Saying stock just means they did not exceed the 1.25 limit. Stock means they are UNDER what intel was using from the factory. Auto is NOT stock. Stock is what intel specifies.

 

[guskline]

I agree with fastamdman. However, I keep my vcore setting at auto and manually set the chip to 4400 and then checked stability AND vcore temps and voltage using AIDA 64 (have a licensed version BEST $$ I spent on diagnostics). My vcore voltage never exceeds 1.38 even running 4400. However 4500 causes a jump. I keep my chip at 4400 and it only jumps there if needed.

 

[fastamdman]

What is your bios vcore guskline? Wonder if you are experiencing some voltage drop at load. Im sure you could lower the vcore for 4500 but if it works it works and its not a big deal. My chip is voltage hungry heh

 

[toyota]

lol, keep telling yourself whatever you want to. so what did that guy put his voltage at since he said he was running stock voltage when at 4.2? oh thats right , we do not know because stock voltage is not some precise number that all 2500k cpus use. AGAIN he probably just left in on auto because he would have said what voltage he was running if he changed it. please get through your head that there is no magical stock voltage number that applies to all of these 2500k cpus. some run at 1.22 and some or lower or higher.

 

[fastamdman]

STOCK VOLTAGE WILL ALWAYS BE 1.25

How do you not understand that. Stock voltage for 4.2 is 1.25, stock voltage for 4.5 is 1.25, stock voltage is ALWAYS 1.25.

INTEL SPECIFIED THAT STOCK VOLTAGE IS 1.25, what don't you understand about that? When you run STOCK speeds, what voltage do you get, hmm 1.25 max, because thats the STOCK VOLTAGE.

EVERY 2500k CPU HAS THE SAME EXACT STOCK VOLTAGE. EVERY 2500K IN THE WORLD USES THE SAME MAGICAL NUMBER CALLED STOCK WHICH IS 1.25, jesus.


Here look at it like this kiddo, put a 2500k in a mobo that doesn't support vcore chaning, the STOCK voltage will read 1.25. THERE IS NOT AUTO option on some boards, its just default and 100% stock aka 1.25 at load.

/ end argument I win k thx bai

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6873036&postcount=3

Tell me how many times you see the word STOCK VOLTAGE used here
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445928

 

[daninfamous]

I think my board default is auto, my volts were all over the place. I think ill pump 4.0 at 1.25 then lower my vcore and run stability checks, 4.0 is enough for me.

 

[fastamdman]

If your voltage is jumping around its more then likely due to eist. When at idle voltage will drop, when at load they will increase. Once you do 40x and 1.25, use LinX or IntelBurnTest to check for stability, also monitor your temps with a program like cpuidhardware monitor just to make sure your cpu temps are within reason. Just because you are at stock voltage doesn't mean your mount job was right lol.

You can change it in bios so that you are always running 4.0 instead of only at load, and always at 1.25 instead of only at load also. However I recommend leaving EIST/c states / all the power saving BS enabled because it does its job well. There is no difference between running it and not running it besides wasting power.

 

[toyota]

STOCK VOLTAGE WILL ALWAYS BE 1.25

How do you not understand that. Stock voltage for 4.2 is 1.25, stock voltage for 4.5 is 1.25, stock voltage is ALWAYS 1.25.

INTEL SPECIFIED THAT STOCK VOLTAGE IS 1.25, what don't you understand about that? When you run STOCK speeds, what voltage do you get, hmm 1.25 max, because thats the STOCK VOLTAGE.

EVERY 2500k CPU HAS THE SAME EXACT STOCK VOLTAGE. EVERY 2500K IN THE WORLD USES THE SAME MAGICAL NUMBER CALLED STOCK WHICH IS 1.25, jesus.


Here look at it like this kiddo, put a 2500k in a mobo that doesn't support vcore chaning, the STOCK voltage will read 1.25. THERE IS NOT AUTO option on some boards, its just default and 100% stock aka 1.25 at load.

/ end argument I win k thx bai

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6873036&postcount=3

Tell me how many times you see the word STOCK VOLTAGE used here
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445928

lol, whatever you think buddy. you are wrong though as stock voltage is NOT 1.25 on my board or many others. stock voltage is just a range and can vary a bit. and AGAIN if you change the multi without touching anything else then the voltage will go higher than needed. you have to manually set it if you want to stay below 1.25 at 4.2.

 

[daninfamous]

The asrock extreme 3 gen 3 seems simpler? then that, I didnt see many options at all. I think im going to take screens tonight when I get home.

 

[fastamdman]

If you go into your bios right now, click on load optimized defaults, your STOCK vcore will be 1.25 at load just like everyone else.

Stock voltage for EVERYONE is 1.25 at STOCK speeds. Go set your multiplier to 33x and turbo to 37x, and run auto vcore, your voltage WILL be 1.25 at load max.

And yea I said the same thing 9 posts ago, if you change the multi while using AUTO vcore, it will increase, hence why people should run a STEADY STOCK voltage like 1.25 *instead of auto* for low clocks.

I think you are just misreading things. We are saying the same thing. If you are running 40x mutli's go into bios, load up 1.25 vcore check for stability.

If you are running a stock multi with auto vcore you will also have 1.25 vcore though because that is what intel specified as stock safe ranges.

The asrock extreme 3 gen 3 seems simpler? then that, I didnt see many options at all. I think im going to take screens tonight when I get home.

There are options to change your vcore with that board. You have Auto which will pick it for you, aka way to much vcore, or you can set it yourself to whatever you want, which is the best option. They are all easy for all boards.

There are only 3 options when choosing vcore guys.
1. Auto *uses to much vcore*
2. Setting the voltage manually *some boards won't auto lower vcore though while using eist*
3. Using offsets *my preferred method as it keeps idle voltages low, and load voltages lower then auto but yet stable*

Also something to note is that not all boards have dvid's / offset options. Some just have the auto / manual, but a lot of those boards will work with EIST.

 

[toyota]

fastamdman, that is BS. there are plenty of people that have lower voltage than 1.25. mine NEVER went to 1.25 with everything at stock. do you you even own a 2500k?

 

[fastamdman]

Yes I own a 2500k rig roffle. Go into your bios, load optimized defaults and you put a load on your system, your vcore will go to a max of 1.25volts while at 3700mhz.

I will go do it and post a SS if you would like. The voltage of 1.25 is MAX not 100% flat. It will fluctuate between 1.22 and 1.25 depending on the multiplier its using and the load on the cpu. That is why stock voltage is considered 1.25 because that is the MOST the chip can ever pull at stock speeds.

You are probably confusing yourself with EIST. Idle voltage and Load voltages are 2 different things Idle voltages are sub 1vcore load are max 1.25 <3

 

[toyota]

Yes I own a 2500k rig roffle. Go into your bios, load optimized defaults and you put a load on your system, your vcore will go to a max of 1.25volts while at 3700mhz.

I will go do it and post a SS if you would like. The voltage of 1.25 is MAX not 100&#37; flat. It will fluctuate between 1.22 and 1.25 depending on the multiplier its using and the load on the cpu. That is why stock voltage is considered 1.25 because that is the MOST the chip can ever pull at stock speeds.

You are probably confusing yourself with EIST. Idle voltage and Load voltages are 2 different things Idle voltages are sub 1vcore load are max 1.25 <3

I just did that and you were wrong just like I said. my voltage was 1.224 for 4 cores under load and 1.216 for one core under load. voltage will always drop off if using less corres.

here is the screen for all four cores in case you think I am lying.


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[Puppies04]

STOCK VOLTAGE WILL ALWAYS BE 1.25 How do you not understand that. Stock voltage for 4.2 is 1.25, stock voltage for 4.5 is 1.25, stock voltage is ALWAYS 1.25. INTEL SPECIFIED THAT STOCK VOLTAGE IS 1.25, what don't you understand about that? When you run STOCK speeds, what voltage do you get, hmm 1.25 max, because thats the STOCK VOLTAGE. EVERY 2500k CPU HAS THE SAME EXACT STOCK VOLTAGE. EVERY 2500K IN THE WORLD USES THE SAME MAGICAL NUMBER CALLED STOCK WHICH IS 1.25, jesus. Here look at it like this kiddo, put a 2500k in a mobo that doesn't support vcore chaning, the STOCK voltage will read 1.25. THERE IS NOT AUTO option on some boards, its just default and 100&#37; stock aka 1.25 at load. / end argument I win k thx bai

Where are you reading this 1.25 from, just reset mine to completly standard and the highest vcore with intel burn test running is 1.216v

 

[fastamdman]

That was at 3400mhz...not 3700mhz, cough Try again bud. I also said MAX so you gotta account for your board leaking voltage, but still you will see 1.25 at 3700mhz

Auto voltage vcore at 3700mhz can peak at 1.25 vcore, I will go grab a SS

BRB suspending my vmware.

 

[toyota]

That was at 3400mhz...not 3700mhz, cough Try again bud. I also said MAX so you gotta account for your board leaking voltage, but still you will see 1.25 at 3700mhz

learn to read. it goes down NOT up when just using ONE core.

get through your head that is varies from board to board or cpu to cpu and 1.25 is NOT the stock voltage for most people. all you have done is make yourself look foolish.

 

[fastamdman]

Just loaded up mine and 1.24 is what I am getting at 3.4, which is pretty damn close to the MAX 1.25 that I said.

Of course it's going to vary slightly from board to board as there will be voltage leaks, psu differences, etc. But it doesn't change the fact that STOCK voltage is MAX 1.25

Understand yet? If EVERYONE gets between 1.22 and 1.25 vcore at stock cpu'ds, then the STOCK vcore at load is 1.25 MAX. So running 1.25 vcore 24/7 while overclocked at 4ghz is considered super safe and or using the STOCK vcore.

 

[Puppies04]

Stock voltage for EVERYONE is 1.25 at STOCK speeds.

But it doesn't change the fact that STOCK voltage is MAX 1.25

Hmm spot the difference, and the reason you got yourself into an arguement.....

 

[toyota]

fastamdman, so you were wrong and should have never said anything to me in this thread. the guy I replied to said he used stock voltage but there is no one number that represents stock voltage. so do you actually think he loaded up his cpu at stock settings to see what voltage he was using and then when into bios to manually adjust it to that when he oced to 4.2? or is more likely that he just left it on auto when he oced to 4.2? that is why I asked him and none of your nonsense in this thread has changed my question to him.

 

[fastamdman]

I don't see the difference? Stock voltage is 1.25 for everyone. Just because he didn't hit 1.25 doesn't mean his chip won't do 1.25 lol.

Here is a screenshot proof. Btw LinX didn't hit 1.25 for me either.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/125vmax.png/

 

[toyota]

please insert facepalm pic of your choice here.

 

[fastamdman]

I was not wrong. Stock voltage is ALWAYS a max of 1.25 plain and simple. I never cared what he was running. If he is running auto cool, if its STOCK cool don't care. He should be running stock though as auto uses to much vcore.

He more then likely left it on auto, however A LOT of people run 1.25 vcore for 4.0ghz or higher as that is considered the "stock" voltage. Go to google and type in "2500k stock voltage" and you will here a bunch of responses saying 1.25 max.

edit

The point being is that if you select AUTO voltage and put a 40x multiplier in, it runs TO MUCH voltage.

If you select 1.25vcore and hit 40x multiplier your at 1.25vcore.

Do you understand yet?!?!

 

[daninfamous]

This is getting outrageous, please drop the argument on all sides before this thread gets locked. Thanks all.

I do have an offset setting on my board, I dont remember the options ill look into it when I get home.

 

[fastamdman]

Offset voltages are for + or - voltage increases. For example if you set your vcore to auto you can then set + .01 voltage and you will have more, or you can set -.01 and you will have less.

It's useful in a lot of situations and great for 24/7 rigs.

For example on my board, the ud3, if you are running a specific voltage, like 1.4, EIST will NOT drop your voltage at idle. SO you have 2 choices, either run auto voltage *which is boo boo* or simply use offsets to get your desired voltage at load and ilde will still drop to .96 or w/e