i5 2500k asus extreme 3 gen 3 and hyper 212 evo

[toyota]

backpedaling and adding qualifiers once again I see. there's no point in quoting you anymore because that's your tactic once your words bite you in the butt. anybody can see that if they were actually concerned enough to read through everything we have posted now. you have some good and proper points in there but most of that was added after you made silly or outright false claims and generalizations.

 

[fastamdman]

I have been saying the same exact things over and over in this thread lol. Apparently just now you are reading them.

If you would like I can focus on all of your bad points that you "think" you know. Accomplish something on SB before you go further into this conversation with me

 

[toyota]

I have been saying the same exact things over and over in this thread lol. Apparently just now you are reading them.

If you would like I can focus on all of your bad points that you "think" you know. Accomplish something on SB before you go further into this conversation with me

denial does not cover up your foolish and inaccurate comments. you could get out of this with some respect if it was not for you acting childish and never admitting you were the least bit wrong.

 

[fastamdman]

I didn't deny anything, I simply gave facts and you won't fess up to your own flaws. Go ahead and keep telling all those people all of your BS, roffle. I would assume a seasoned member on these forums would have given up by now. I guess the people who pm'd me and told me about you were right.

 

[toyota]

I didn't deny anything, I simply gave facts and you won't fess up to your own flaws. Go ahead and keep telling all those people all of your BS, roffle. I would assume a seasoned member on these forums would have given up by now. I guess the people who pm'd me and told me about you were right.

funny how your own words are right there for all to see yet you were never wrong...lol

 

[fastamdman]

My words haven't changed, grab a quote that is 100% wrong and quote it. The only time I was close to being wrong was assuming that a single core at 37x would put out more voltage on that one core. I was simply just trying to show you that they can run 1.25volts stock which you didnt understand until you ran it and were right there and until i ran it and i was right there.

Quote me and I will back it up. STOCK voltage will NOT pass 1.25volts without LLC. Prove me wrong please.

 

[toyota]

I already did quote you. you are just too childish to admit you were the least bit wrong.

 

[fastamdman]

Clearly you didnt just read my above post AT ALL. Man the people who complained about you were right, you are very ignorant. Do you see me quoting every flaw you said still? Would you like me to? Drop this or go show me an accomplishment because to me your just some e-kid afraid to do anything with a 2500k. Get at me when you have used LN2, Dice, or have some records, get decent ranks on benchmarks, etc.

 

[toyota]

Clearly you didnt just read my above post AT ALL. Man the people who complained about you were right, you are very ignorant. Do you see me quoting every flaw you said still? Would you like me to? Drop this or go show me an accomplishment because to me your just some e-kid afraid to do anything with a 2500k. Get at me when you have used LN2, Dice, or have some records, get decent ranks on benchmarks, etc.

again you keep adding qualifiers to your initial BS. first you said all 2500k cpus have a stock voltage of 1.25. I then told you that most people including myself did not ever go to that. I hit only 1.224 but you then said it would if hitting 3.7 which is the stock single core turbo speed.

lol, that was wrong because it goes DOWN when turboing just one core to 3.7. yet you now claim you never said it would be higher at 3.7. you were wrong and now you flat out lie about it.

you said 1.25 would be okay at any speed on stock cooler. that was wrong but then you go back and qualify that with saying if temps are okay. well duh. I gave you an example about 4.4 or 4.2 not being safe even if you were at just 1.25 so you needed to cover butt. you tell me that temps should not vary much as long as the 1.25 is still being used which contradicts your earlier qualifier about 1.25 being fine if temps were okay. lol, see a pattern yet?

I tell you that me temps were much higher at 4.2 than a 3.4 using just 1.23 volts. well then your excuse is that temps should not be much different as in 20C. so now 20C is not a huge amount of difference on a stock cooler that is already going to run worm on stock cpu speeds? really?

I could go on but whats the point? all you do is come up with another excuse and still claim you have said nothing wrong at all.

 

[fastamdman]

All 2500k's do have a stock voltage of UP to 1.25, period. As I have said, SHOW ME ONE THAT DOES MORE PLEASE.

Yours CAN go up to 1.25, you just didn't push it hard enough or in the "ideal" conditions. It's like saying a car CAN do 160. Sometimes it will only do 158 because of wind or road conditions, air temps, etc. Just like that, the 2500k CAN hit 1.25 all of them CAN if they are pushed hard, you saw my screen shot bro. I can make my voltage 1.224 too, I can make it 1.25 and so can you, so can EVERY chip because that is the MAXIMUM voltage intel gave the chip when designing it.

1.25 IS OK ON A STOCK COOLER, PROVE ME WRONG PLEASE.

No matter what, you ALWAYS need to check temps, whether you are stock or not. Just because you CHECK them doesn't change anything. ALL PROBABLY MOUNTED STOCK HEATSINKS AN RUN 1.25 VCORE.

As far as temps go, EVERY chip varies and EVERY chip can run 1.25 vcore and EVERY chip will be fine at 1.25 vcore. There is no contradiction there, but EVERYONE needs to check there temps, whoever doesn't like you, are complete idiots.

Temps change and vary as you change speeds yes, but not drastically. If you can run 1.25 at stock and have acceptable temps, they will be acceptable at whatever your max stability is at 1.25. And 20c is a big increase but thats about the thermal point. Example if you run 60c stock and then 80c overclocked there ya go. IMO you don't want to run higher then 80c in IBT/Linux, which again is much lower in real life / p95.

I have made NO excuses. Also something to point out and I am not sure wtf you are talking about you said above and I quote "I gave you an exampe about 4.4 or 4.2 not being safe even if you were at just 1.25". First off as long as its stable and temps are fie, it IS safe, secondly you said the opposite lol.

 

[fastamdman]

1.25 is not magic as the higher clocks can still get the cpu VERY hot. you can usually run a 2500k at up to 4.4 with just 1.25 but in way is that what I would recommend with stock cooler. it will still go over 80 C pretty quickly even at just 4.2 an 1.25. at 4.4 and 1.25 it would probably hit 90 C pretty quickly in IBT.

This is the post that shows how stupid you really are. You dont gain 10c for 200mhz and you cant NOT usually run a 2500k at 4.4 with 1.25 vcore. Your English is also horrible or you are not very competent, not sure which.

I will quote all of your flaws now and critique your stupidity just like this if you would like.


Next up

oh thats right , we do not know because stock voltage is not some precise number that all 2500k cpus use.

We already proved that 1.25 vcore is the max with our screenshots. That IS the stock voltage bu, UP TO 1.25 vcore. If you show me otherwise I will eat my words and shut up. But until you prove me wrong, 1.25 vcore is the max without LLC. Maybe you don't know what max is, but that means maximum. Depending on the app it can/will vary and change but the MAX will always be 1.25

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[toyota]

same old BS over and over and over. my cpu never went to 1.25 and you told me it would. I got no where near it with 4 cores in IBT on max settings. again you then said it would hit 1.25 at 3.7 which it did not because it actually dropped when using just one core. you STILL cant admit you were flat out wrong by acting like it would use more voltage with just 1 core turboed to 3.7 than running 4 cores at 3.4.

and AGAIN not even 1.23 at 4.2 was what i would consider safe because temps quickly went to 80C and they would have kept climbing. as soon as I saw 80C I stopped the test but 1 core still hit 82C. it certainly would have gone MUCH higher since I stopped it after only 15 seconds or so. so again 1.25 is not some magic voltage that will allow you to run almost any speed you want on the stock cooler.

and you actually think your English skills are great? this is a tech forum not an English class. even then my grammar is no worse than the average person on here. and a psychology degree is not needed to see the obvious reasons you are even coming at me from that angle.

 

[fastamdman]

Run more then one stress testing program bud, open a few winows, you will see that the voltages change. Go download cpuid hardware monitor, run a few different stress tests programs and you will see how different programs require different vcores. Your MAX can be 1.25, it WILL be less on some but will never go MORE then 1.25vcore as I SHOWED WITH A SS.

You also were VERY close to 1.25 just as a heads up which is the MAX I was talking about. I might have been wrong about the 3700 vs 3400, but my point is still the same. THE MAX YOUR CHP WILL DO IS 1.25. There ARE programs that will put it to that, if not then you are experiencing voltage drop through your board which is bad.

And 1.25 isn't a magic voltage but its a GREAT start for a stock cooler. Never said it was magical thats your fairy wording not mine. Also your ambient temps or chip must have blown because I can do 1.25 on a variety of coolers with MUCH lower temps. Could have also been the mounting job, it sounds like you have a difficulty reading so maybe you failed reading the instructions for mounting it too.

1.25 is just a simple starting point for people wanting to run 4ghz, whether its a stock cooler, hyper 212, water cooling, ln2, dice, doesn't matter. He wanted a starting point, I gave him one. It's called STOCK vcore. A lot of people use that term, look around for it. Clearly you are not a seasoned / experienced overclocker.


Also something to note is that cpuz for a lot of boards does NOT report vcore correctly AND that programs vary. Look at my SS for example. Granted some apps are 2 decimal some are 3 some round up etc. Either way your 2500k can do 1.25 vcore stock on a non voltage leaking crappy motherboard. They all CAN.

That doesn't mean they will run 1.25 24/7 at load, it means they will PEAK to that. They can hold that too, but there MAX/PEAK i 1.25 vcore bud.

 

[Idontcare]

Where's the link to the Intel spec stating 1.25Vcore is the max?

 

[daninfamous]

so during intel burn test it goes up to 4ghz then drops down to like 3.3 3.6 and bounces around 3.3 3.6 4.0 back n forth under full load?

i set voltage to offset?

 

[toyota]

so during intel burn test it goes up to 4ghz then drops down to like 3.3 3.6 and bounces around 3.3 3.6 4.0 back n forth under full load?

i set voltage to offset?

it should push all four cores at whatever speed you set for them. did you raise the multi or did you just raise turbo speeds?

 

[daninfamous]

raised the ratio, i was playing with some settings and it turned off during a test, then failed to boot, cleared the cmos and here i am
im gonna give it a rest for now i wanna enjoy it before i fry it lol

came from an e8400

 

[toyota]

raised the ratio, i was playing with some settings and it turned off during a test, then failed to boot, cleared the cmos and here i am
im gonna give it a rest for now i wanna enjoy it before i fry it lol

came from an e8400

raised the turbo ratio?

 

[daninfamous]

no, didnt raise the turbo