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CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
If you end up going to Carnegie-Mellon you'll have to look me up sometime.

Between UCLA and CMU...CMU is probably better for just about eveything but UCLA is cheaper. But your education is what you make it, nevermind the reputation of the school...I went to a Cal St. school for undergrad because it is dirt cheap and I had to pay my own way.

Hey, what's the average age of a graduate student there?
 

miniMUNCH

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Heck, if your to go for a masters just go for the whole "shooting match".

Most schools don't pay for masters students...or least not all the way.

All my profs here always tell this same phrase: "I never met anyone who had a Ph.D who was sorry they spent the time to get it."

I had several mentors at work and several family friends with PhD's who constantly urged me to go to grad school...and I can tell you, once your on the other side of the looking glass it is all worth it.

I had to quit a great job, sell my house in L.A., pack all my crap into a moving truck a drive out to the east towing my car behind the truck, find an apartment, move in, go through the pain of taking real nasty hardcore grad classes when I had been out of school for 4 years...all worth it.

Grad school is great. I strongly recommend it to anyone even remotely considering it.
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
If you end up going to Carnegie-Mellon you'll have to look me up sometime.

Between UCLA and CMU...CMU is probably better for just about eveything but UCLA is cheaper. But your education is what you make it, nevermind the reputation of the school...I went to a Cal St. school for undergrad because it is dirt cheap and I had to pay my own way.

Hey, what's the average age of a graduate student there?

You mean first year grad student? I'd say 24ish? A lot of peole come back after a year or two of working.


I'm 27 myself...

 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
If you end up going to Carnegie-Mellon you'll have to look me up sometime.

Between UCLA and CMU...CMU is probably better for just about eveything but UCLA is cheaper. But your education is what you make it, nevermind the reputation of the school...I went to a Cal St. school for undergrad because it is dirt cheap and I had to pay my own way.

Hey, what's the average age of a graduate student there?

You mean first year grad student? I'd say 24ish? A lot of peole come back after a year or two of working.


I'm 27 myself...

Thanks. Yup, I was talking about a first year grad student.

I'm currently getting my MSEE straight out of undergrad. I wished I worked for some years so that I would be more in line with most everyone else.
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
If you end up going to Carnegie-Mellon you'll have to look me up sometime.

Between UCLA and CMU...CMU is probably better for just about eveything but UCLA is cheaper. But your education is what you make it, nevermind the reputation of the school...I went to a Cal St. school for undergrad because it is dirt cheap and I had to pay my own way.

Hey, what's the average age of a graduate student there?

You mean first year grad student? I'd say 24ish? A lot of peole come back after a year or two of working.


I'm 27 myself...

Thanks. Yup, I was talking about a first year grad student.

I'm currently getting my MSEE straight out of undergrad. I wished I worked for some years so that I would be more in line with most everyone else.

But your drinking age right? That's all that matters...and then you don't have the age gap issue when undergrads starting hitting on you during your office hours (happened to me a few times but I was thinking, for one, I'm married, and two, your a little girl...your like my little sister).

 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
If you end up going to Carnegie-Mellon you'll have to look me up sometime.

Between UCLA and CMU...CMU is probably better for just about eveything but UCLA is cheaper. But your education is what you make it, nevermind the reputation of the school...I went to a Cal St. school for undergrad because it is dirt cheap and I had to pay my own way.

Hey, what's the average age of a graduate student there?

You mean first year grad student? I'd say 24ish? A lot of peole come back after a year or two of working.


I'm 27 myself...

Thanks. Yup, I was talking about a first year grad student.

I'm currently getting my MSEE straight out of undergrad. I wished I worked for some years so that I would be more in line with most everyone else.

But your drinking age right? That's all that matters...and then you don't have the age gap issue when undergrads starting hitting on you during your office hours (happened to me a few times but I was thinking, for one, I'm married, and two, your a little girl...your like my little sister).

Yeah, of course :)
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: dvdrdiscs
Wow you guys really tore out his self confidence and stepped on it with this one.

Well, we really enjoy our work...

But seriously, we are not doing him any favors by entertaining his notion of genius because of a 4 of 5 on a AP Calculus test. The fact of matter is, genius often has nothing to do with contribution to society...if mankind waited around for genius to drive forward civilization, we wouldn't know what calculus was yet.

I would be more impressed if he told us he studied his butt off for weeks and "pwned" the test because that would demonstrate some competence with the subject and a burning desire to do well and/or learn.

 

willboxer

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lol i just find it funny how he bluntly stated he's a genius

kids these days...so so cute with their ignorance
 

MegaloManiaK

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Alot of people at my school take calc 4 and then calc 3. This is for a mechanical engineering program, however.


Last i checked most EE's take Diff eq (commonly called calc4 althought it's not calc4) before taking calc3. Diff Eq is a must for circuit theory while triple integration isn't that usefull.

I also think its funny how every time i see someone post something about how smart they are it includes some story about how they could have done better than 180 on the IQ test except they stayed up all night drinking and took a hit of LSD before the test.


Blah blah blah. As for teaching yourself calc3 im sure you could do it, i had a horrible teacher and little motivation but i passed it, im sure with motivation you could learn it yourself.

But beware, passing a high school ap calc course is no substitute for taking it at a good college.

And anyone who is really "smart" doesn't sit around telling other people how much "smarter" they are then other people.
 

miniMUNCH

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But beware, passing a high school ap calc course is no substitute for taking it at a good college.

And anyone who is really "smart" doesn't sit around telling other people how much "smarter" they are then other people.

True...True... (both of his statements)

Richard Feynman never bothered with genius...he was always having fun or drinking or picking up strippers (not really) in his free time.

 
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I know people that got 5's on AP tests without even taking the course. They certainly weren't geniuses. Perhaps you're surrounded by stupid people and have a false view of genius.
 

willboxer

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I know people that got 5's on AP tests without even taking the course. They certainly weren't geniuses. Perhaps you're surrounded by stupid people and have a false view of genius.


or maybe his view is blocked by his big ego, who knows, we can only speculate.
 

GtPrOjEcTX

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So calculus just isn't doing it for you then eh? Pick up this book.. Material inside will require >=Calc 2 levels of understanding, but you could teach yourself that.

Calc 3 <easier <easier <easier than this material.
 

DaviDaVinci

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forgot making him feel stupid, i'm feeling like a person with an IQ of 10 next to some of you guys.

Then again, i AM up at 4:41am waiting for 8am to come around so i can be an extra in some friend's silly movie....

 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: Bulldog13
Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
This is gonna sound crazy, but I just want to get moving through math just to be able to understand somewhat Goldbach's Conjecture, Goldbach's Odd Conjecture, The Poincare Conjecture, The P vs. NP Problem, The Riemann Hypothesis, the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture, the Hodge Conjecture, the Navier-Stokes Equasions, and the Yang-Mills Theory.

As it is, I've spent almost no effort at all learning what math I already know. (I slept every day through AP Calculus BC, and I taught myself series, etc. IN THE CAR RIDE ON THE WAY TO THE TEST.) I figure that with some real discipline and effort, I might be able to do something special with my abilities for mankind.

I'm either delusional or courageous. If, hypothetically speaking, I'm smarter than Riemann, I'd never know it because of the way the American education system works. You either meet a standard, are below it, or you're above it. If you're above it, little effort is made (even in private schools) to extract original genius and potential. I will now create my own challenge and attempt to mend the disservice done to me.


What type of medal would you like me to make you?
I don't want or need your damn medal. I want to prove to myself that hard work can accomplish more than I've ever accomplished. I no longer want to settle for anything less than that which I am capable.
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: willboxer
lol i just find it funny how he bluntly stated he's a genius

kids these days...so so cute with their ignorance

You have no idea. Math isn't even my strongest point. Philosophy is.
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: willboxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I know people that got 5's on AP tests without even taking the course. They certainly weren't geniuses. Perhaps you're surrounded by stupid people and have a false view of genius.


or maybe his view is blocked by his big ego, who knows, we can only speculate.

F&uuml;ck you. If I really am a genius, you'd shoot me down just as quickly. I'm just saying that I finally realized that fact. Nobody recognizes genius when they see it, and everbody thinks that recognition of this sort is pure ego, so they quickly bury it under the mediocrity of society.
 

Chaotic42

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Step 1: Purchase/acquire text book
Step 2: Get notebook and pencil
Step 3: Read next chapter
Step 4: Do all problems at the end of chapter/section review, checking all answers.
Step 5: If >95% of answers are correct, go to Step 3.

That's what I'm doing.

You should also define Calc 3. It's different everywhere I've seen it. Our school called Infinite series and multiple integrals Calc 3.
 

miniMUNCH

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Nov 16, 2000
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Well KevintheNerd,

Go to it...hard work will do more for you than genius (although genius never hurts).

If your serious...you really read Fermat's Engima...it's a $10 paperback and is a great read. I'm reading it now...