I want to teach myself Calc III

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Pick up James Stewart's Calc book, the thick one that includes the multivariable calculus portion. It goes from Calc 1 through to Calc 3, so if you need any review it'll be right there. Once you understand that, pick up a complex variables (try Wunsch) book and a differential equations (Nagle, Saff & Snider is good) book, that'll keep you busy for awhile. Report back when you've pounded through all these books. At that point you may want to look at rounding your math skills with some analysis and linear algebra.

 

[Spoooon]

Good lord people, all he was saying was that, at the school he went to, if he were some sort of genius he'd never know because the teachers don't care. He never said he was a genius. Atleast, I don't think he did.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: Spoooon
Good lord people, all he was saying was that, at the school he went to, if he were some sort of genius he'd never know because the teachers don't care. He never said he was a genius. Atleast, I don't think he did.

Exactly. I don't know if I'm a genius, but I certainly want to find out. I have nothing to lose.

 

[willboxer]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: Bulldog13

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
This is gonna sound crazy, but I just want to get moving through math just to be able to understand somewhat Goldbach's Conjecture, Goldbach's Odd Conjecture, The Poincare Conjecture, The P vs. NP Problem, The Riemann Hypothesis, the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture, the Hodge Conjecture, the Navier-Stokes Equasions, and the Yang-Mills Theory.

As it is, I've spent almost no effort at all learning what math I already know. (I slept every day through AP Calculus BC, and I taught myself series, etc. IN THE CAR RIDE ON THE WAY TO THE TEST.) I figure that with some real discipline and effort, I might be able to do something special with my abilities for mankind.

I'm either delusional or courageous. If, hypothetically speaking, I'm smarter than Riemann, I'd never know it because of the way the American education system works. You either meet a standard, are below it, or you're above it. If you're above it, little effort is made (even in private schools) to extract original genius and potential. I will now create my own challenge and attempt to mend the disservice done to me.

What type of medal would you like me to make you?

I don't want or need your damn medal. I want to prove to myself that hard work can accomplish more than I've ever accomplished. I no longer want to settle for anything less than that which I am capable.

isn't that a contradiction in itself? you say you're a hardworker but you don't study until the last minute, last time i checked the definition of that, it's called procrastination

 

[willboxer]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: willboxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I know people that got 5's on AP tests without even taking the course. They certainly weren't geniuses. Perhaps you're surrounded by stupid people and have a false view of genius.

or maybe his view is blocked by his big ego, who knows, we can only speculate.

Fück you. If I really am a genius, you'd shoot me down just as quickly. I'm just saying that I finally realized that fact. Nobody recognizes genius when they see it, and everbody thinks that recognition of this sort is pure ego, so they quickly bury it under the mediocrity of society.

nobody recognize it but you right? lol

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: willboxer

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: willboxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I know people that got 5's on AP tests without even taking the course. They certainly weren't geniuses. Perhaps you're surrounded by stupid people and have a false view of genius.

or maybe his view is blocked by his big ego, who knows, we can only speculate.

Fück you. If I really am a genius, you'd shoot me down just as quickly. I'm just saying that I finally realized that fact. Nobody recognizes genius when they see it, and everbody thinks that recognition of this sort is pure ego, so they quickly bury it under the mediocrity of society.

nobody recognize it but you right? lol

BUT HE GOT A 4 ON AN AP TEST!

 

[willboxer]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Someone's been watching a little too much Good Will Hunting.

A Beautiful Mind

the guy was a schizo, i now clearly see how you can relate to the movie.

 

[fyleow]

Originally posted by: willboxer

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: Bulldog13

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
This is gonna sound crazy, but I just want to get moving through math just to be able to understand somewhat Goldbach's Conjecture, Goldbach's Odd Conjecture, The Poincare Conjecture, The P vs. NP Problem, The Riemann Hypothesis, the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture, the Hodge Conjecture, the Navier-Stokes Equasions, and the Yang-Mills Theory.

As it is, I've spent almost no effort at all learning what math I already know. (I slept every day through AP Calculus BC, and I taught myself series, etc. IN THE CAR RIDE ON THE WAY TO THE TEST.) I figure that with some real discipline and effort, I might be able to do something special with my abilities for mankind.

I'm either delusional or courageous. If, hypothetically speaking, I'm smarter than Riemann, I'd never know it because of the way the American education system works. You either meet a standard, are below it, or you're above it. If you're above it, little effort is made (even in private schools) to extract original genius and potential. I will now create my own challenge and attempt to mend the disservice done to me.

What type of medal would you like me to make you?

I don't want or need your damn medal. I want to prove to myself that hard work can accomplish more than I've ever accomplished. I no longer want to settle for anything less than that which I am capable.

isn't that a contradiction in itself? you say you're a hardworker but you don't study until the last minute, last time i checked the definition of that, it's called procrastination

Just imagine what the world would be like today if nobody ever procrastinated and worked to their fullest abilities.

 

[willboxer]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Again, if you were a genius, then you would have been able to go to an Ivy League school. You could have gone to MIT. You don't have to do any homework if you really are a genius.

At the very least, you could have gone to a very good school if you were a genius.

I guess I was right that you are just surrounded by stupid people and that this gives you a false sense of genius.

Again, no.

I've screwed myself out of opportunities by not doing homework. Genius has little to do with focus. Look at Einstein's academic record.

When grades are based on homework turned in, getting all 100s on tests will still get you a C or even worse. It's in the syllabi in black and white.

I went to a decent private college for my first year (Saint Leo University), but I failed out from not doing homework. Again: lack of focus, partly due to ADD, but mostly because I never learned discipline.

When teachers force you to do homework as a requirement for a good grade, you will naturally fail. When teachers let you slide by because you know the work, you will naturally succeed without the disciple that homework gives many. Well, partway through my academic experience, things switched. I went from sliding by to failing simply because I was not doing the assignements.

Genius has nothing to do with education and more to do with the ability to further that education. I was never taught the things that I now seek to teach myself.

another classic. saying you screwed yourself out of the ivy league because you didn't do your homework is not an excuse, high school was a walk in the park, i came to the US from europe, English being my second language, or rather third language, the homework assignements and projects hits you in the head when you go to college, not HS.

oh yeah another thing, i just love it when you keep on preaching your talents. you say your strong subject lies within philosophy. are you familiar with socrates?

furthermore are you familiar with a little book called Trial and Death of Socrates? (you should be since you're so fond of philosophy)

whereas one of Socrates points is that those who claim to know, knows nothing.

practice what you preach kiddo

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: willboxer

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: Bulldog13

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
This is gonna sound crazy, but I just want to get moving through math just to be able to understand somewhat Goldbach's Conjecture, Goldbach's Odd Conjecture, The Poincare Conjecture, The P vs. NP Problem, The Riemann Hypothesis, the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture, the Hodge Conjecture, the Navier-Stokes Equasions, and the Yang-Mills Theory.

As it is, I've spent almost no effort at all learning what math I already know. (I slept every day through AP Calculus BC, and I taught myself series, etc. IN THE CAR RIDE ON THE WAY TO THE TEST.) I figure that with some real discipline and effort, I might be able to do something special with my abilities for mankind.

I'm either delusional or courageous. If, hypothetically speaking, I'm smarter than Riemann, I'd never know it because of the way the American education system works. You either meet a standard, are below it, or you're above it. If you're above it, little effort is made (even in private schools) to extract original genius and potential. I will now create my own challenge and attempt to mend the disservice done to me.

What type of medal would you like me to make you?

I don't want or need your damn medal. I want to prove to myself that hard work can accomplish more than I've ever accomplished. I no longer want to settle for anything less than that which I am capable.

isn't that a contradiction in itself? you say you're a hardworker but you don't study until the last minute, last time i checked the definition of that, it's called procrastination

Yes, it is a contradiction. I seek to improve myself and stop procrastinating.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: willboxer

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Again, if you were a genius, then you would have been able to go to an Ivy League school. You could have gone to MIT. You don't have to do any homework if you really are a genius.

At the very least, you could have gone to a very good school if you were a genius.

I guess I was right that you are just surrounded by stupid people and that this gives you a false sense of genius.

Again, no.

I've screwed myself out of opportunities by not doing homework. Genius has little to do with focus. Look at Einstein's academic record.

When grades are based on homework turned in, getting all 100s on tests will still get you a C or even worse. It's in the syllabi in black and white.

I went to a decent private college for my first year (Saint Leo University), but I failed out from not doing homework. Again: lack of focus, partly due to ADD, but mostly because I never learned discipline.

When teachers force you to do homework as a requirement for a good grade, you will naturally fail. When teachers let you slide by because you know the work, you will naturally succeed without the disciple that homework gives many. Well, partway through my academic experience, things switched. I went from sliding by to failing simply because I was not doing the assignements.

Genius has nothing to do with education and more to do with the ability to further that education. I was never taught the things that I now seek to teach myself.

another classic. saying you screwed yourself out of the ivy league because you didn't do your homework is not an excuse, high school was a walk in the park, i came to the US from europe, English being my second language, or rather third language, the homework assignements and projects hits you in the head when you go to college, not HS.

oh yeah another thing, i just love it when you keep on preaching your talents. you say your strong subject lies within philosophy. are you familiar with socrates?

furthermore are you familiar with a little book called Trial and Death of Socrates? (you should be since you're so fond of philosophy)

whereas one of Socrates points is that those who claim to know, knows nothing.

practice what you preach kiddo

1. Never have I claimed to know.
2. I do not preach Socrates. My fondness of philosophy has no bearing on my agreement with Socrates. And yes, I'm quite familiar with Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, etc. By doubting my knowing, you are claiming to know and therefore not practicing what you yourself have preached.

My fondness and talent with philosophy is not historical in nature, though. I consider myself an active producer of philosophy, not just a consumer of dusty texts.

 

[RabidMongoose]

So what have you done to make yourself think that you're a philosophical genius? You can memorize the alphabet?

What is this 'talent' that you have?

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: willboxer

i came to the US from europe, English being my second language, or rather third language, the homework assignements and projects hits you in the head when you go to college, not HS.

You were not fluent on your first contact with English. Genius is the ability to learn, not a measure of what you have learned.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
So what have you done to make yourself think that you're a philosophical genius? You can memorize the alphabet?

What is this 'talent' that you have?

Read the thread. I never claimed to be a genius of anything. I am merely entertaining the possibility. To not entertainment would waste a valuable opportunity to unlock a potential treasure.

I have a talent to see the world in unusual ways and draw accurate conclusions from it. When my book is finished, you will see. For now, I will not divulge any details.

 

[willboxer]

if a genius have an ability to learn rather quickly, then he should have learned a great amount

and how exactly would somebody know if he's a genius if he doesnt even try to learn? thus he can't quite realize whether he has the ability to learn or not. which would be in your case since you said you didn't do shiet during HS

 

[kevinthenerd]

By the way... your flames are neffing up my thread!

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii


Based on your comment about the American education system, you clearly have no idea how things work in college. In the classes that matter, it's less about measuring performance and more about the learning.

I take it you have never been to a community college. Not everyone goes to a good school. I was talking about the average. I screwed myself out of the Ivy League by not doing any homework in highschool.

That's what they all say. I suppose high school was boring so you didn't do your work? And you have big dreams after community college, which you are making Bs in. I tell you what. I scored 1500 on the SAT, 1550 on the PSAT. According to these tests I am a genius, yet I can barely do calculus. What does this mean? It means that there is more to the human brain than intelligence level. What do you mean when you say philosophy is your strong point. Do you think deep things to yourself, then come to the conclusion that you are a philosophical genius?
Philosophical geniuses don't screw themselves out of Ivy League AND state and lesser private schools. Philosophical geniuses don't go to community college.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
So what have you done to make yourself think that you're a philosophical genius? You can memorize the alphabet?

What is this 'talent' that you have?

Read the thread. I never claimed to be a genius of anything. I am merely entertaining the possibility. To not entertainment would waste a valuable opportunity to unlock a potential treasure.

I have a talent to see the world in unusual ways and draw accurate conclusions from it. When my book is finished, you will see. For now, I will not divulge any details.

OK, well good luck in seeing if you're a genius or not. Personally, if you haven't really displayed the skills of being a genius already, then I doubt that you really are one. Your final explanation really doesn't sound like you're a genius - just a delusional kid that is surrounded by idiots. It would be like me saying I'm a 'life genius' because I am unique and special. Good luck.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Oh btw, if you are a genius, why is it so easy for professors to screw you with homework?

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: yllus
Oh jeez. The possibility of the guy being a genius is hardly ruled out because he messed up in high school and is current attending community college. Lest we all forget, a good number of men and women we now consider to be geniuses had little in the way of quantitative accomplishments at kevinthenerd's age. Pure intelligence and initiative to succeed are separate and do not necessarily reflect upon each other.

Thanks. I guess nobody here read that.

Philosophical genius doesn't mean that one has the drive to succeed in the material rat race. It has nothing to do with an anti-education bias. I've always hated formal education because I've never been truly challenged, so I just gave up. Sure, it was an incorrect assumption, but I arrived to that conclusion from extra-educational thinking. That type of thinking is something that my peers never seem to do.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Oh btw, if you are a genius, why is it so easy for professors to screw you with homework?

Please read the thread. I won't even respond to this one.

Edited for tone.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Oh btw, if you are a genius, why is it so easy for professors to screw you with homework?

Once you no longer care about the grades, it's not "being screwed."

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: yllus
Oh jeez. The possibility of the guy being a genius is hardly ruled out because he messed up in high school and is current attending community college. Lest we all forget, a good number of men and women we now consider to be geniuses had little in the way of quantitative accomplishments at kevinthenerd's age. Pure intelligence and initiative to succeed are separate and do not necessarily reflect upon each other.

Thanks. I guess nobody here read that.

Philosophical genius doesn't mean that one has the drive to succeed in the material rat race. It has nothing to do with an anti-education bias. I've always hated formal education because I've never been truly challenged, so I just gave up. Sure, it was an incorrect assumption, but I arrived to that conclusion from extra-educational thinking. That type of thinking is something that my peers never seem to do.

You were challenged though. You got a 4 on an AP test. You didn't achieve perfection - in fact, you were shown right to your face that you 'failed' for a genius.

I guess every kid in this country is a 'genius' now. Is this the excuse for every lazy kid now? 'I'm a genius, that's why I didn't do anything'...

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: yllus
Oh jeez. The possibility of the guy being a genius is hardly ruled out because he messed up in high school and is current attending community college. Lest we all forget, a good number of men and women we now consider to be geniuses had little in the way of quantitative accomplishments at kevinthenerd's age. Pure intelligence and initiative to succeed are separate and do not necessarily reflect upon each other.

Thanks. I guess nobody here read that.

Philosophical genius doesn't mean that one has the drive to succeed in the material rat race. It has nothing to do with an anti-education bias. I've always hated formal education because I've never been truly challenged, so I just gave up. Sure, it was an incorrect assumption, but I arrived to that conclusion from extra-educational thinking. That type of thinking is something that my peers never seem to do.

You were challenged though. You got a 4 on an AP test. You didn't achieve perfection - in fact, you were shown right to your face that you 'failed' for a genius.

I guess every kid in this country is a 'genius' now.

*sigh
Ok... hypothetical example for you. Perhaps you'll understand with that.

I just transported you to a distant planet. You've never heard the language before, but you slowly pick up a word or two. Suddenly, some dude hands you a test you can't even read. Even a genius with an IQ of 300 would probably fail it, but he might pick up a few more words than you or I.

..

My situation was like that. Because I chose not to try, everything was foreign up until the night before. I did quite well considering I never bothered doing anything for a whole year, including but not limited to doing homework, studying, paying attention in class, etc. etc. I didn't care at all. How can I learn if I wasn't trying to learn? The morning of the test proved that I can learn a lot in a short period of time.

 

[CanOWorms]

you are a really weird kid