I want to kill my daughter

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: djheater
It's been shown that humans have trouble with instant gratification vs long term consequences.

Adults have attained a sufficient level of development and experience to have created personal strategies for asessing consequences and avoiding impulsive behavior.

As parents we often make the mistake of believing that our children are capable of the same analysis and strategies that we employ, but sometimes they haven't achieved a sufficient level of development and experience.

Cell phones particularly, have been shown to elicit compulsive behavior, it might be that we should monitor and limit children's use of them.

Cell phone and texting interventions are going to be all the rave in the 2010s.

 

[olds]

Please tell her to stop texting me, my bill is high because of it too.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: djheater
It's been shown that humans have trouble with instant gratification vs long term consequences.

Adults have attained a sufficient level of development and experience to have created personal strategies for asessing consequences and avoiding impulsive behavior.

As parents we often make the mistake of believing that our children are capable of the same analysis and strategies that we employ, but sometimes they haven't achieved a sufficient level of development and experience.

Cell phones particularly, have been shown to elicit compulsive behavior, it might be that we should monitor and limit children's use of them.

Cell phone and texting interventions are going to be all the rave in the 2010s.

If you can't tell by my post, I'm going into head-shrinking, so it's just good business for me.

 

[TwiceOver]

"$220 more than normal"

If you are dishing out $180 for your phones (I assume family) that's your primary problem. Turn all that shit off. Turn off text/internet/pics. It's all crap anyway.

 

[BudAshes]

Make her cut you a switch, lol.

 

[vshah]

didn't you just buy your son $500 worth of outdoor equipment?! no love for the daughter?

jk...i think that was totally irresponsible of her...you should take away the phone or make her pay for the plans from now on. how old is she?

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Wait, you want to harm your daughter when you are the idiot?

 

[Pastore]

Holy crap get on the unlimited plan, stat. And yes, it is available for you. Not sure why you're saying it's not.

 

[nanette1985]

Not to joke about killing, but ya know, if you get a jury of your peers - parents of teens - you'll get off.

My teens had similar issues - now the older ones pay their own phone bills, ha ha. My youngest is 18 and he knows every detail about our contract and bill, he's a fanatic that way. Now it's more likely to be the other way around - "Mom, you made an international business call on our HOME plan? WHAT were you thinking? That's why you have a BUSINESS line. Don't let it happen again . . . "

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
I got a text message today with my Verizon bill----it was $396.80. WTcapitalF???!!!!!! That's like $220 more than normal!!!!!

Turns out my daughter is on a 1500/month text message plan, and all Verizon network texts are umlimited. Well, she sent out 4000 (FOUR + 3 ZEROS) text messages last month- over half of which were off network. That breaks down to ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY OUTGOING TEXTS PER DAY!!!!!!! How can you possibly do that????? Well, she found a way.

No matter what I do to her, I'm still stuck with a $400 Verizon bill. Looks like I'm working for Verizon this week :| Anyone in the same boat?

call a CSR and ask if they can retroactively put you on an unlimited plan. alltell and us cellular did this for me without a hassle

also, ive sent that many texts... in a month, two or three time. dont ask.

 

[JS80]

How old is she?

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: randay
OMG LOL U R so angry!

:laugh:

 

[Sumguy]

Originally posted by: m0mentary
back in high school before text messaging and pagers *gasp* I cost my parents 200 bucks for calling a girl long distance.

Well then, what did you expect?

Those phone sex operators aren't free.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Wait, you want to harm your daughter when you are the idiot?

If he can't do it, I can do it for him.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: KK
I bet the OP does nothing to discpline his daughter.

You freakin' kidding me? She's at home crying right now after her mom found out. We're working out a plan were she works for $8/hr around the house until paid off.

I could use a new ditch in the back yard :evil:

Wow, you're generous, I'd top out at $5/hr

 

[2Xtreme21]

I'll say it right now... there is no need for a kid to have a cell phone. I don't care if you give me the lame ass "she has to let me know when soccer practice is over" excuse... there is always the pay phone that I got away with using whenever band / hockey practice ended early. Otherwise, my parents just met me at the door at a pre-arranged time. Driving? Get a "car phone" that is a pay-as-you-go one for emergencies. If someone can give me one justifiable reason for a child needing one, I'll gladly concede my point.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
"$220 more than normal"

If you are dishing out $180 for your phones (I assume family) that's your primary problem. Turn all that shit off. Turn off text/internet/pics. It's all crap anyway.

Congrats on giving the worst advice in the thread, not that OP is looking for advice anyways.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
I'll say it right now... there is no need for a kid to have a cell phone. I don't care if you give me the lame ass "she has to let me know when soccer practice is over" excuse... there is always the pay phone that I got away with using every single day after band / hockey practice. Driving? Get a "car phone" that is a pay-as-you-go one for emergencies. If someone can give me one justifiable reason for a child needing one, I'll gladly concede my point.

Most places outside of a city don't have pay phones anymore. I can't even remember the last time that I've seen one, probably at the airport last month.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Call verizon and say you had no idea this would happen, blah blah blah, say you want to upgrade to the unlimited text plan and they should wave the charges. They did when my brother did that.

To defend your daughter a little... it's really easy to send 4k text messages.

edit: make her pay for it... learn her some responsibility.

Really easy? Jesus christ, you'd have to be on the friggin thing constantly.

Yeah really easy. Simple math tells us that she would send about 4 texts every hour and receives 4 texts every hour.

The plan only charges for outgoing texts. 130 outgoing texts/day. That's 8 outgoing texts/hour assuming that she's awake for 16 hours a day (i.e. only sleeping for 8 hours a night).

However, one has to factor in the fact that teenagers are in school for about 8 hours a day M-F. So for 5 days out of the week, that's only 8 hours available for texting. So averaging 16 texts/hour M-F. Then assume that she's probably got homework, during which time she won't be texting. Average is about 2 hours a night, and we'll include downtime like eating dinner in this.

That leaves us with 6 hours. So just about 22 outgoing texts/hour on a school day. Assuming that each outgoing text has an accompanying incoming text (reasonable), that's 44 messages total per hour on a weekday. That's one text in or out every 1.36 minutes on a weekday.

And that's all assuming that she has no extracurricular activities or other obligations that would further restrict her available texting time. She'd basically have to have the phone glued to her hand.

ZV

 

[RbSX]

Jeeze.

Get her the unlimited plan.

For $85 bucks a month I have unlimited email/data/text messages, voicemail, caller ID, 450 anytime minutes, 250 long distance minutes, unlimited calling after 6pm, unlimited incoming minutes at anytime.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Wait, you want to harm your daughter when you are the idiot?

If he can't do it, I can do it for him.

lol

 

[child of wonder]

This is exactly why my kids' phones will have texting disabled when they're old enough to have them.

Not seen as popular because you don't have texting? Too fucking bad. Grow a pair and stop bowing to the whims of society.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
I'll say it right now... there is no need for a kid to have a cell phone. I don't care if you give me the lame ass "she has to let me know when soccer practice is over" excuse... there is always the pay phone that I got away with using every single day after band / hockey practice. Driving? Get a "car phone" that is a pay-as-you-go one for emergencies. If someone can give me one justifiable reason for a child needing one, I'll gladly concede my point.

Most places outside of a city don't have pay phones anymore. I can't even remember the last time that I've seen one, probably at the airport last month.

I'd say most schools would have one. I know ours had a few in the lobby and 2 outside.

 

[cubeless]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
I'll say it right now... there is no need for a kid to have a cell phone. I don't care if you give me the lame ass "she has to let me know when soccer practice is over" excuse... there is always the pay phone that I got away with using whenever band / hockey practice ended early. Otherwise, my parents just met me at the door at a pre-arranged time. Driving? Get a "car phone" that is a pay-as-you-go one for emergencies. If someone can give me one justifiable reason for a child needing one, I'll gladly concede my point.

must not have kids...

there is a middle ground, finding it is hard... i finally got phones for them a year or so ago, but no text, not media, etc... it's a big timesaver for me and the wife because when u have multiple little targets having to hang around when something is running late or plans change burns lots of daylight... each phone is $10 a month...

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: child of wonder
This is exactly why my kids' phones will have texting disabled when they're old enough to have them.

Not seen as popular because you don't have texting? Too fucking bad. Grow a pair and stop bowing to the whims of society.

imho you're a fucking idiot, it's more economical to have a basic phone plan and unlimited text messaging.

because if you run over your minutes they charge you more than they would for text messages